Will an "unlocked" 950XL work on Verizon?

[dpinside]

AT&T has stopped, Verizon has not and continues to insert trackers unless you explicitly opt out. Ad-blockers don't stop it.

As for what it has to do with working on Verizon's network, the question is why you would want this or any other phone on a carrier who blatantly is tracking your every online action.

can you point us to your source please?

 

[xsikal]

can you point us to your source please?

Just google verizon tracking. As they said, you CAN opt out, but it is otherwise opt in by default.

 

[libra89]

Just google verizon tracking. As they said, you CAN opt out, but it is otherwise opt in by default.

I'm guessing you are talking about this: Be Afraid: Verizon?s Supercookies to Merge With AOL's Ad-Tracking Network

Why Privacy Experts Are Worried About Verizon?s ?Zombie Cookie? That?s Now Going to Share Data With AOL?s Ad Network ? What It Means for You | TheBlaze.com

Verizon Is Watching: Company Expands Data-Tracking Program -- The Motley Fool (sometimes people take this site with a grain of salt, so I had to find other links).

 

[ksj1]

can you point us to your source please?

Sure:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-being-used-across-entire-aol-ad-empire.shtml

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/11/verizon-x-uidh

FCC is probing Verizon's 'super cookie' used to track mobile browsing - FierceWireless

Verizon customers can now opt out of privacy-invading tracking cookies | Digital Trends

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150115/07074929705/remember-that-undeletable-super-cookie-verizon-claimed-wouldnt-be-abused-yeah-well-funny-story.shtml

There are many more. Just search for Verizon UIDH or supercookie.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

FWIW, dpinside wasn't clear what he wanted proof of. It could have been the fact the AT&T is NOT doing it.

 

[ksj1]

FWIW, dpinside wasn't clear what he wanted proof of. It could have been the fact the AT&T is NOT doing it.

OK:

AT&T ends tracking of customers by "supercookie"

AT&T Drops 'Super Cookie' Mobile Tracking | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

AT&T ends controversial use of perma-cookies to track users - TechRepublic

 

[dksf42]

Just to add some perspective, there are not millions of Windows Phone users on Verizon. WP has about 5.7 million users in the US (April ComScore numbers). Verizon has about 12 percent of those users which means about 700,000 users. Also since in the US about 43% of phone sales are high end phones, you really are talking about 300k potential customers. Given how poorly high end Windows phones have historically done on Verizon the number is probably quite a bit smaller than that.

I really want one of these phones myself but it looks like I will have to hang onto my Icon for a while yet.

Thanks djarchow for your analysis and "estimates" - but, frankly I am STUNNED by this LOW number, if true. Our family personally has 5 Lumia devices, dating back to the Lumia 928 - including 2 Icons. Following your analysis, that would "place" the total "Windows Phone POPULATION in the US logically at "something LESS than 700,000" ... but, I know a number of "multiple Lumia families"?

I have read through separate articles that that there are reportedly now over 100 MILLION Windows Phones sold worldwide.

Can anyone else verify that the TOTAL "Verizon" Windows Phone "population" is 700,000 or less as we really need to dig deeper.

 

[garak0410]

Do you think the reason this thread is so large is that because there is no out and out statement from Microsoft or Verizon on an official statement if the unlocked phone will work or not? Could ongoing, last minute discussions be holding up the pre-orders?

 

[msft_tinkering]

Do you think the reason this thread is so large is that because there is no out and out statement from Microsoft or Verizon on an official statement if the unlocked phone will work or not? Could ongoing, last minute discussions be holding up the pre-orders?

Only for the most hopeful on the board. I'm not counting on it because Verizon has been, and I'm quoting here "100% a d*ck" to Windows Phone.

 

[papanoongaku]

no. it's the innate human desire to bicker over something without knowing all the facts.

IT WON'T WORK ON VERIZON, PEOPLE!

 

[johnnyrussoa3]

Will just voice ( calling) work with a Verizon SIM? Personally, I have at&t and will continue on their network. However my work phone is Verizon. Since the 950 XL is dual SIM, it would be great if I could pop in my work SIM and not have to carry two phones. I wouldn't care if data didn't work on the Verizon sim because I'd just use mine from at&t, but would need to receive work calls and texts. Anyone know if that would work?

 

[MikeSo]

Do you think the reason this thread is so large is that because there is no out and out statement from Microsoft or Verizon on an official statement if the unlocked phone will work or not? Could ongoing, last minute discussions be holding up the pre-orders?

That is incorrect. See http://forums.windowscentral.com/microsoft-lumia-950-xl/386522-13.htm#post3254391



"Phone will not work with CDMA carriers."
That is a very official and definitive statement.

 

[garak0410]

That is incorrect. See http://forums.windowscentral.com/microsoft-lumia-950-xl/386522-13.htm#post3254391

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"Phone will not work with CDMA carriers."
That is a very official and definitive statement.

Though I still hold out hope for a, say, 959xl for CDMA, that picture should effectively end this thread...

 

[MikeSo]

Though I still hold out hope for a, say, 959xl for CDMA, that picture should effectively end this thread...

Well, it was posted earlier and didn't end it so... hope springs eternal!

But yes, maybe another phone will have CDMA. This one doesn't.

 

[Spangl01]

Maybe if the picture read "...will not work on Verizon" instead of "CDMA network"

 

[cdubbsworld]

idk if this was posted or not but if you have a active sim card and you put it in a phone that's unlocked but also compatible with Verizon it will work.... I had a Nexus 6 they refused to activate it because it wasn't in their system I cut my sim and put it in the phone and it worked as long as it has the correct bands it should work and that's what I'm hoping for I'm going to try it once I get my hands on one

Edit: just saw the photo well that sucks guess ill continue to wait

 

[PepperdotNet]

When the official FCC filings are public, then we know for sure.

 

[Generalheed]

Hypothetically, even though its not compatible with CDMA networks, it might still be compatible with Verizon's LTE network. It does indeed lack support for Verizon's most commonly used band 13, but it does support Verizon's other bands, 2 and 4. One of those bands, Verizon is required by the FCC to accept all compatible phones.

However, even if an activated SIM works like in the 950, you'll basically be limited to data-only. Im not sure if Verizon supports VoLTE yet for calls and texts.

 

[oldpueblo]

That's the fence I'm on...the timing with the offer to get the top of the line iPhone and this latest build of Windows 10 on my ICON draining batter worse than ever, it has caused me to reflect...it is just to hard to have to try to go to Android or iOS.

You do what's best for you bro, I'll be a friendly devil's advocate though. What if a new build comes out in two weeks and everyone is raving about how W10 is finally stable/ready for primetime. How will you feel about that, will you stare at your Icon sitting in a drawer and end up putting the iPhone in the drawer now? If you did and your boss saw this, would he feel like they wasted money on you? You can always go back to 8.1 and have a stable Icon, and give yourself until the launch of the 950's to decide on moving to W10 or an iPhone. I have a 930 and I want so badly to use W10 as a daily driver, but I rely on my phone for work and I'm afraid to do it. In the meantime I still enjoy my 930.

 

[Johnny Tremaine]

Yeah, that photo would, by any account, both end this thread and any speculation on this matter.
A document *in the Microsoft store* says the device won't work with CDMA carriers. Story, end of, as Yoda would say.

Personally, I'm bewildered a bit, since the largest carrier in China is also CDMA, that Microsoft is effectively ceding mobile hardware, in most of the Chinese consumer market (shakes head).
But the Chinese loves them those iPhones.