Windows phones cannot render web pages properly

[decaf19]

I am not a developer but I don't think you want to use HTML5 test for a way to determine if a browser is good. You get points on that test for things no one gives a crap about. For example Chrome gets two bonus points for Ogg Vorbis support and WebM with Vorbis support.

Sure it is only two points but they have nothing to do with whether the browser renders anything correctly and there are lots of other things on that test that give points that you may never use. As someone else has said I think the issue is webkit, not HTML5.

Maybe that audio support isn't important to you but assuming you're in the USA maybe in another country that's how a low key artist records music....better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it

 

[Tarik Aziz]

I am not a developer but I don't think you want to use HTML5 test for a way to determine if a browser is good. You get points on that test for things no one gives a crap about. For example Chrome gets two bonus points for Ogg Vorbis support and WebM with Vorbis support.

Sure it is only two points but they have nothing to do with whether the browser renders anything correctly and there are lots of other things on that test that give points that you may never use. As someone else has said I think the issue is webkit, not HTML5.

yeah maybe a browser can't be judged by html5 test. But the problems in IE are clearly visible. For example I mentioned about the facebook site which is so much popular but there's no sign of Microsoft fixing the issue. Yeah I know there is a facebook app but still that's just an example.

 

[D M C]

IE in WP isn't a solid browser.

Not only it has rendering problem but many sites do not work at all on IE but easily work on other browsers.
And
IE also crashes a lot during browsing.
Forget the others Even wpcentral mobile sites crashes in my phone.

 

[colinkiama]

Not true you can use a separate engine

No you can't. Use Maxathon or UC browser on the same page that wasn't working on ie. It will be the same result, you cannot use other engines on WP.

 

[Tarik Aziz]

No you can't. Use Maxathon or UC browser on the same page that wasn't working on ie. It will be the same result, you cannot use other engines on WP.

No i got 333 out of 555 with uc and maxthon browser whereas IE scored 372 out of 555. Check urself

 

[decaf19]

No you can't. Use Maxathon or UC browser on the same page that wasn't working on ie. It will be the same result, you cannot use other engines on WP.

Your information is still wrong....because there isn't an app that uses a different engine currently available, doesn't mean you can't use a different one? If chrome or Firefox were created for WP they wouldn't use the trident engine...You're confused as thinking because the 3 browsers currently available for WP use the same engine, all apps must

 

[neo158]

yeah maybe a browser can't be judged by html5 test. But the problems in IE are clearly visible. For example I mentioned about the facebook site which is so much popular but there's no sign of Microsoft fixing the issue. Yeah I know there is a facebook app but still that's just an example.

Except Microsoft can't fix rendering issues if it's a problem with the site. It would be up to Facebook to fix the issues not Microsoft. Most people don't use the Facebook webpage anyway since the Facebook app is on WP.

 

[David P2]

Uh Yup... Just putting it on the wish list.

I wouldn't bother... it's just rebadged Chrome at the end of the day now.

 

[trwrt]

Your information is still wrong....because there isn't an app that uses a different engine currently available, doesn't mean you can't use a different one? If chrome or Firefox were created for WP they wouldn't use the trident engine...You're confused as thinking because the 3 browsers currently available for WP use the same engine, all apps must

There's no technical reason but I think it is a policy reason that Microsoft won't allow an alternate browser engine in the store. Similar to how Apple has it.

 

[decaf19]

There's no technical reason but I think it is a policy reason that Microsoft won't allow an alternate browser engine in the store. Similar to how Apple has it.

I will contact their support through my developer account, I haven't heard of this

 

[neo158]

Maybe that audio support isn't important to you but assuming you're in the USA maybe in another country that's how a low key artist records music....better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it

It's not a case of having it and not needing it but rather a case of what's a ratified standard or not. Microsoft have clearly stated that they will not implement non standard and experimental features.

 

[tgp]

There's no technical reason but I think it is a policy reason that Microsoft won't allow an alternate browser engine in the store. Similar to how Apple has it.

Right. Chrome on iOS is basically a Safari wrapper.

 

[David P2]

Let me guess, html5test.com?

I wouldn't trust that POS site as most of the things it tests for are still in development, which explains the low mark for IE11 as MS have stated that they aren't implementing anything that isn't a ratified standard.

Anyways, if one is going to test browsers, wouldn't it be better to use the de facto industry standard? (ie the acid3 test - IE11 scores 100/100 on my L620 running Preview, in mobile mode.

 

[neo158]

Anyways, if one is going to test browsers, wouldn't it be better to use the de facto industry standard? (ie the acid3 test - IE11 scores 100/100 on my L620 running Preview, in mobile mode.

Exactly, the acid3 test scores things that are standards not things that are experimental and/or yet to become standards. I just tried the acid3 test and you're right IE11 on WP8.1 scores 100/100.

 

[angusdegraosta]

Modern IE is fairly pathetic on Surface 2 as well. And what will Microsoft do in the months ahead to make the situation better?

 

[decaf19]

Exactly, the acid3 test scores things that are standards not things that are experimental and/or yet to become standards. I just tried the acid3 test and you're right IE11 on WP8.1 scores 100/100.

From Wikipedia:
"As a result, Firefox 4 and Internet Explorer 9 achieved a score of 100/100 on Acid3, but Internet Explorer didn't render the test properly because it did not support text-shadow until Internet Explorer 10.[41]"
so your test gave a free 100 to a browser that was still missing features....sounds pretty faulty to me as opposed to html5 test actually rating and scaling browsers off what they actually can or cannot do

 

[David P2]

From Wikipedia:
"As a result, Firefox 4 and Internet Explorer 9 achieved a score of 100/100 on Acid3, but Internet Explorer didn't render the test properly because it did not support text-shadow until Internet Explorer 10.[41]"
so your test gave a free 100 to a browser that was still missing features....sounds pretty faulty to me as opposed to html5 test actually rating and scaling browsers off what they actually can or cannot do

And we all know that a source editable by anyone is trustworthy.... :wink: </sarcasm>

 

[decaf19]

And we all know that a source editable by anyone is trustworthy.... :wink: </sarcasm>

Lol typical response... But that's alright IE fan boys will prevail

 

[decaf19]

I think ill make a test called the decaf test....if a browser can load the word "congrats" it passes with 100/100 and if it doesn't load it, it will pass with a 100/100....i hope people use my test as an argument for why their browser is better...

 

[neo158]

Lol typical response... But that's alright IE fan boys will prevail

He's right though, any source that can be edited by anyone isn't reliable. There's a reason why Colleges and Universities don't allow Wikipedia to be used as a source for dissertations.