11-01-2017 12:03 AM
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  1. Chazzy J's Avatar
    Well I guess Microsoft pulled the plug on Groove Music Pass. I'm sure they did it for all the right reasons and it made business sense to do so -- at least I hope.

    Looks like the Groove App will remain in tact and isn't going anywhere, but the ability to search and download and seamlessly add music to playlists, along with its seamless integration across my desktop, tablet, android phone, and xbox is going bye-bye.

    Looks like they'll be "partnering" with Spotify. Not quite sure what "partnering" means, because you have to go use their software, their app, and while it looks and feels like Groove, I'm not sure what is going to happen to all my songs I've had since 2001. My library is huge.

    I've been using Groove Music Pass since 2014, so I haven't bought any songs. I must have hundreds of Music Pass songs. All of which are integrated into my playlists. So I've got songs that are 10 years old, that I out-right own, and I've got other songs that are Music pass only. I understand Groove is porting all of my Music Pass music over to Spotify, which is fine, but what about the songs I own out-right? Do I just have parsed playlists now?

    If they were really "partnering" with Spotify, they'd integrate the streaming service into Groove and keep everything seamless.

    Sad to see Groove grow with the fluent design, adding music videos, the album art...all of that. Only to be chopped at the knees.

    Anyhow, I'm just grieving and venting. Nothing more than that.
    10-03-2017 07:39 AM
  2. etphoto's Avatar
    Yes, I had Groove on three different devices and used it almost daily. Really sad to see it go and it doesn't help with Microsoft's perception with its consumers. Although, after reading WC's article it does make sense in that most music pass people use the service on a mobile device and with W10M being on less and less devices everyday, the music service suffers. Which, makes me think, maybe MS doesn't have too much faith in their retrenching strategy that is supposedly just around the corner. It gets harder and harder to use Microsoft stuff everyday.

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    10-03-2017 08:00 AM
  3. DallasXanadu's Avatar
    Yes I'm sad. It's one of the few reasons I'm still clinging to WP. In fact I just bought a used phone from the marketplace to use as a dedicated music player in my car. I'll use Spotify until it no longer functions (four months, tops?), then I'll give up and switch platforms, while a single tear rolls down my cheek.
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    10-03-2017 08:08 AM
  4. Polychrome's Avatar
    My guess with the spotify thing is that some businesses are grouping together as allies to go after a bigger number of customers. (Verizon ditched their music services for spotify some time ago.) I'll miss Groove and all its previous iterations, but I never use the "all you can eat" music passes and my music is backed up already, so not much will change for me.
    10-03-2017 04:36 PM
  5. Paul Wiseman's Avatar
    Very upset to see groove/zune kicked to the curb. It just may be the straw that broke the camels back for me. I've been a big supporter of the msft ecosystem. no supported mobile solution and now short another app.have a good one msft...later
    Musa Siddiqui and plettza like this.
    10-03-2017 05:42 PM
  6. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    In short, yes. I hate to see it go.
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    10-03-2017 08:28 PM
  7. raycpl's Avatar
    Nope, the service was never available in my region.
    A good solid player that plays local and tracks from oneDrive is all I want/need

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    10-03-2017 09:01 PM
  8. Chazzy J's Avatar
    Nope, the service was never available in my region.
    A good solid player that plays local and tracks from oneDrive is all I want/need

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    Agreed on that. I took yesterday to get my refund, go to Amazon and DL the MP3 of all of the Music Pass Songs I wanted to keep and still listen to. Put them in my OneDrive Music folder and now they're in Groove Music permanently. I guess I'll just go back to DL'ing songs from Amazon -- not that big of deal now that I've done it; pretty easy actually.

    Groove is a solid music player. I want to be able to continue to use it and my playlists
    raycpl and ChrisLynch like this.
    10-04-2017 12:58 PM
  9. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    I am sad... They had some great playlists
    10-04-2017 05:56 PM
  10. raycpl's Avatar
    Agreed on that. I took yesterday to get my refund, go to Amazon and DL the MP3 of all of the Music Pass Songs I wanted to keep and still listen to. Put them in my OneDrive Music folder and now they're in Groove Music permanently. I guess I'll just go back to DL'ing songs from Amazon -- not that big of deal now that I've done it; pretty easy actually.

    Groove is a solid music player. I want to be able to continue to use it and my playlists
    Good to hear that!!
    Reading thread in here is like the freaking end of the world. .. people are way too phone-centric


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    10-04-2017 08:57 PM
  11. darrell reimer's Avatar
    Really sad to see it go! The people working on the Groove project did an amazing job, bringing it from X-box music to a very very polished product. I cancelled my Music pass, and then started playing around with Spotify. Now - i have Spotify on my work issued iPad. Spotify on my 950 XL is very very weak and bland. I can't believe how 'old' it looks compared to the iPad version, and also to Groove. Groove was awesome! I think Microsoft better loan some money to Spotify and tell them to get to work and upgrade their Windows version...
    10-04-2017 11:41 PM
  12. GhostEchelon's Avatar
    I'm sad about it sure. I thought it was a neat feature. Am I going to go nuts no... I still use iTunes that I heavily invested all my music purchase along with amazon also. Hopefully apple will bring there iTunes app sooner to the Microsoft store as they said they would. Be interesting to see if it will be a UWP.
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    10-05-2017 01:31 AM
  13. j m robin's Avatar
    I'm honestly heartbroken by this - not for the Music Pass, but purchasing music in general (I just prefer that method for my purchases). I was so happy to get away from iTunes, but now it looks like I have to go back to them. Not to mention, it doesn't exude much confidence In my other digital purchases I made from Microsoft, like movies.
    10-07-2017 12:09 PM
  14. beeg50's Avatar
    Well I guess Microsoft pulled the plug on Groove Music Pass. I'm sure they did it for all the right reasons and it made business sense to do so -- at least I hope.

    Looks like the Groove App will remain in tact and isn't going anywhere, but the ability to search and download and seamlessly add music to playlists, along with its seamless integration across my desktop, tablet, android phone, and xbox is going bye-bye.

    Looks like they'll be "partnering" with Spotify. Not quite sure what "partnering" means, because you have to go use their software, their app, and while it looks and feels like Groove, I'm not sure what is going to happen to all my songs I've had since 2001. My library is huge.

    I've been using Groove Music Pass since 2014, so I haven't bought any songs. I must have hundreds of Music Pass songs. All of which are integrated into my playlists. So I've got songs that are 10 years old, that I out-right own, and I've got other songs that are Music pass only. I understand Groove is porting all of my Music Pass music over to Spotify, which is fine, but what about the songs I own out-right? Do I just have parsed playlists now?

    If they were really "partnering" with Spotify, they'd integrate the streaming service into Groove and keep everything seamless.

    Sad to see Groove grow with the fluent design, adding music videos, the album art...all of that. Only to be chopped at the knees.

    Anyhow, I'm just grieving and venting. Nothing more than that.
    10-07-2017 12:16 PM
  15. sporosarcina's Avatar
    am I sad, yes, do I feel betrayed or think MS is abandoning people, no. yeah, I loved groove, and Xbox Music and Zune, but in the end I still have my personal files and there are multiple streaming solutions on my 950 and other devices. hopefully they will be putting some of those software engineers on other teams because they seemed to be the ones who understood fluent design and the UWP the best
    10-07-2017 12:16 PM
  16. joshuadlieberman's Avatar
    Well I guess Microsoft pulled the plug on Groove Music Pass. I'm sure they did it for all the right reasons and it made business sense to do so -- at least I hope.

    Looks like the Groove App will remain in tact and isn't going anywhere, but the ability to search and download and seamlessly add music to playlists, along with its seamless integration across my desktop, tablet, android phone, and xbox is going bye-bye.

    Looks like they'll be "partnering" with Spotify. Not quite sure what "partnering" means, because you have to go use their software, their app, and while it looks and feels like Groove, I'm not sure what is going to happen to all my songs I've had since 2001. My library is huge.

    I've been using Groove Music Pass since 2014, so I haven't bought any songs. I must have hundreds of Music Pass songs. All of which are integrated into my playlists. So I've got songs that are 10 years old, that I out-right own, and I've got other songs that are Music pass only. I understand Groove is porting all of my Music Pass music over to Spotify, which is fine, but what about the songs I own out-right? Do I just have parsed playlists now?

    If they were really "partnering" with Spotify, they'd integrate the streaming service into Groove and keep everything seamless.

    Sad to see Groove grow with the fluent design, adding music videos, the album art...all of that. Only to be chopped at the knees.

    Anyhow, I'm just grieving and venting. Nothing more than that.
    10-07-2017 12:17 PM
  17. beeg50's Avatar
    This is just one more reason to leave Microsoft. They have abandoned the consumer market. I've invested a lot of time and money with Microsoft, but now it's time to go elsewhere.
    10-07-2017 12:19 PM
  18. bobsentell's Avatar
    Yes and no. I did my best to support Microsoft services but at the end of the day, there is no money in streaming music. Apple uses it to sell iPhones. Google uses it to sell ads. And Amazon tacks it on for free. Spotify is a private business who is far more invested in the market and I just don't think it made sense for Microsoft to continue to lose an uphill battle.

    The big question is whether Movies and TV is next.
    10-07-2017 12:25 PM
  19. pdch's Avatar
    I have long used Groove as my main music source - so this seriously sucks. I have nearly 100GBs of music on onedrive that I play anywhere through Groove to a cacophony of connected devices. The one thing I am wondering about this - is does it have something to do with Microsoft trying to buy Spotify. A Spotify purchase has been rumored for a while now - is it maybe happening? if MS is buying Spotify, then having two music services makes no sense.
    10-07-2017 12:30 PM
  20. Henry Linc's Avatar
    Well I guess Microsoft pulled the plug on Groove Music Pass. I'm sure they did it for all the right reasons and it made business sense to do so -- at least I hope.

    Looks like the Groove App will remain in tact and isn't going anywhere, but the ability to search and download and seamlessly add music to playlists, along with its seamless integration across my desktop, tablet, android phone, and xbox is going bye-bye.

    Looks like they'll be "partnering" with Spotify. Not quite sure what "partnering" means, because you have to go use their software, their app, and while it looks and feels like Groove, I'm not sure what is going to happen to all my songs I've had since 2001. My library is huge.

    I've been using Groove Music Pass since 2014, so I haven't bought any songs. I must have hundreds of Music Pass songs. All of which are integrated into my playlists. So I've got songs that are 10 years old, that I out-right own, and I've got other songs that are Music pass only. I understand Groove is porting all of my Music Pass music over to Spotify, which is fine, but what about the songs I own out-right? Do I just have parsed playlists now?

    If they were really "partnering" with Spotify, they'd integrate the streaming service into Groove and keep everything seamless.

    Sad to see Groove grow with the fluent design, adding music videos, the album art...all of that. Only to be chopped at the knees.

    Anyhow, I'm just grieving and venting. Nothing more than that.
    After the fluent design, everything doesn't seems smooth. I always wanted some app that's simple that can replace the old Windows Media Player. for me, it's fine for groove not having the music pass thing, but that's just me. I'm too, sad hearing about Microsoft pulling the plug on Groove Music Pass even though I only use groove to play my offline collection of music which i downloaded from internet (xD).
    10-07-2017 12:34 PM
  21. jonnob's Avatar
    Well I guess Microsoft pulled the plug on Groove Music Pass. I'm sure they did it for all the right reasons and it made business sense to do so -- at least I hope.

    Looks like the Groove App will remain in tact and isn't going anywhere, but the ability to search and download and seamlessly add music to playlists, along with its seamless integration across my desktop, tablet, android phone, and xbox is going bye-bye.

    Looks like they'll be "partnering" with Spotify. Not quite sure what "partnering" means, because you have to go use their software, their app, and while it looks and feels like Groove, I'm not sure what is going to happen to all my songs I've had since 2001. My library is huge.

    I've been using Groove Music Pass since 2014, so I haven't bought any songs. I must have hundreds of Music Pass songs. All of which are integrated into my playlists. So I've got songs that are 10 years old, that I out-right own, and I've got other songs that are Music pass only. I understand Groove is porting all of my Music Pass music over to Spotify, which is fine, but what about the songs I own out-right? Do I just have parsed playlists now?

    If they were really "partnering" with Spotify, they'd integrate the streaming service into Groove and keep everything seamless.

    Sad to see Groove grow with the fluent design, adding music videos, the album art...all of that. Only to be chopped at the knees.

    Anyhow, I'm just grieving and venting. Nothing more than that.
    I really enjoy the ability to use Cortana to recognize music player on the radio and then seamlessly add it to my library.
    10-07-2017 12:40 PM
  22. spaceOpia1's Avatar
    Really pissed too. Everyday on Windows central I see people giving up ok Microsoft. At first I thought "MS must have a grand plan" and I kept holding on my plan to keep with the entire MS ecosystem (Windows mobile, Windows, groove music, office 365, movies and tv, ...).
    Now I an considering switching entirely to something else.
    10-07-2017 12:40 PM
  23. og-gq's Avatar
    I'm bummed for a few reasons.... I have had the pass since the Zune days. I have backed Windows Phones for a very long time and still use it to this day. I love my phone, but the decision to back out of Groove and move to Spotify doesn't leave me with much of a choice considering the Spotify app on Windows 10 Mobile opens only half the time. I have been constantly getting "The audio could not be started. Please restart the application." And it's been driving me crazy. I use my phone to listen to music all the time. Also, not integrating the Onedrive function to listen to my owned music really sucks as well. Maybe they add this function later.... But it seems like that won't happen for W10 mobile, because they can't even fix the app now!
    10-07-2017 12:42 PM
  24. ushodax's Avatar
    meh... i couldn't care less.

    i'm one of the few that doesn't stream music. i've always downloaded the files to my internal storage or sd, and well... while i loved groove on my lumia 930, now i have an android phone and i can't browse my local files. that's a big NO NO for me.
    10-07-2017 12:43 PM
  25. cool8man's Avatar
    I just watched Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and all I could think is how cool and stylish the Zune logo/UI and brand was compared to what we ended up with in bland Xbox Music and Groove. Groove started getting better with Fluent Design UI, but Zune was already beautiful and functional from the start and shouldn't have been scrapped. MS hits refresh too often and has a tendency to throw the baby out with the bathwater. MS pioneered the subscription music model and to see them surrender and give up on music is disheartening. MS were innovators in this space long before Zune or iTunes even came to market.

    I don't want to see MS become an enterprise company because they are too important to the consumer tech industry. Xbox wasn't just a me too product, it brought innovations at every step of the way from standard Ethernet and hard drives to Xbox Live and Kinect. Despite the perception of those who never had one Zune wasn't just an iPod clone, it brought innovations like music sharing, subscriptions, automatic playlists and curated playlists. It is easy to look at Tablet PC/UMPC, Windows Mobile, SPOT IoT watches/MS Band, Ultimate TV/Media Center/webTV/IPTV, Zune/Xbox One/Kinect, SYNC, etc and think MS rarely gets the consumer market right so they shouldn't even try. The truth is that on all of these products and now that includes HoloLens they are the visionaries. I don't know who you attribute this to, but MS has been the one daring to try to take consumers into the future for decades.

    What I've learned is that consumers are fearful and resistant to ambitious change, especially when that change comes from a company they no longer trust. What killed Xbox One's ambition was a total distrust for MS and it's motives. I've also learned that MS lacks confidence in their vision and a commitment to keep advancing and promoting it. Apple is hardly a forward thinking company and yet consumers reward them for holding back and waiting. To an early adopter that consumer reaction is sad and frustrating. So where are we consumers without companies like MS and it's bold forward thinking? Waiting longer and longer for a glimpse of what comes next. Zune Pass was what came next after iTunes and it frustrates to no end that MS can never seem to capitalize on the brilliance of their vision.
    10-07-2017 12:49 PM
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