1. Nerdy Woman's Avatar
    This article appeared today in Tech Report:

    "Rumor: Windows 8.1 Update 2 coming August 12—sans Start menu
    by Cyril Kowaliski — 11:27 AM on July 21, 2014

    The next big update to Windows 8.1 may be just a few weeks away—but don't get too excited.

    According to WinBeta, evidence posted by Russian site PC Portal suggests Windows 8.1 Update 2 is on track for an August 12 release. However, WinBeta adds that the update will mostly comprise small tweaks and bug fixes. The feature we've all been waiting for, the resurrected Start menu, has apparently been postponed:

    Update 2 was originally going to include the new Start Menu, but Microsoft decided to pull the feature and save it for Threshold. Update 2 will include no new features, and will most likely be preparing for Threshold when it launches in 2015.

    Oh well. At least the rumored August 12 date seems fairly plausible. It corresponds to Patch Tuesday, and it jibes with a ZDnet report from back in April. In that report, Microsoft watcher Mary Jo Foley said her sources pointed to a possible August time frame for Windows 8.1 Update 2.

    Microsoft demoed the new Start menu at its Build conference earlier this year, promising to unleash it as part of a future update. Unofficial evidence suggests that Windows Threshold, the next major Windows release, will go as far as to disable Modern UI entirely on desktop PCs. On the flip side, the desktop will reportedly be off-limits to small tablets.

    Rumor: Windows 8.1 Update 2 coming August 12 - sans Start menu - The Tech Report

    I am sooo not installing that until I set up a restore point.
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    07-22-2014 02:37 AM
  2. Pete's Avatar
    Personally, I've never really missed the start menu, but I'm probably in the minority.

    I use Windows 7 in my day to day job (software development) and hardly ever find myself going into the start menu beyond the pinned and recent program list.
    07-22-2014 03:34 AM
  3. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Personally, I've never really missed the start menu, but I'm probably in the minority.

    I use Windows 7 in my day to day job (software development) and hardly ever find myself going into the start menu beyond the pinned and recent program list.
    I agree. I've been running Windows 8.x ever since its release date, but I do not miss the start menu. I rarely used it in Windows 7. When I still used 7, I pinned my frequently used programs to the taskbar.I also used an extremely clean desktop. I did not even have the recycle bin showing on my desktop.
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    07-22-2014 03:39 AM
  4. dKp1977's Avatar
    Personally, I've never really missed the start menu, but I'm probably in the minority.

    I use Windows 7 in my day to day job (software development) and hardly ever find myself going into the start menu beyond the pinned and recent program list.
    Same here. In my experience the universal search in Windows 8 is way quicker than the one built into the start menu of Windows 7.
    BobLobIaw likes this.
    07-22-2014 03:40 AM
  5. Chregu's Avatar
    Same here. In my experience the universal search in Windows 8 is way quicker than the one built into the start menu of Windows 7.
    They will probably not make the search worse with the new start menu. I'm looking so forward not to have my screen covered by this Metro screen all the time, that is basically useless to me.
    07-22-2014 03:46 AM
  6. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    They will probably not make the search worse with the new start menu. I'm looking so forward not to have my screen covered by this Metro screen all the time, that is basically useless to me.
    If you have Windows 8.1, you can boot to desktop and never see the Metro screen.
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    07-22-2014 03:48 AM
  7. Chregu's Avatar
    If you have Windows 8.1, you can boot to desktop and never see the Metro screen.
    Yes, of course. I use it rarely. But in some occasion you just need it: Hit Windows, start typing for search. I don't like the Metro screen coming up then, I'd prefer a smaller start menu. Of course, it's not a deal breaker or anything to not have it, it's just something I'm looking forward to.
    07-22-2014 03:55 AM
  8. Nerdy Woman's Avatar
    My point in posting this article is not about the start menu. Last paragraph. Bold text...

    Unofficial evidence suggests that Windows Threshold, the next major Windows release, will go as far as to disable Modern UI entirely on desktop PCs.

    We are being returned to Windows 7 desktop. There will be no Start SCREEN, no Modern, borderless screens. NO LIVE TILES.
    07-22-2014 08:02 AM
  9. dKp1977's Avatar
    My point in posting this article is not about the start menu. Last paragraph. Bold text...

    Unofficial evidence suggests that Windows Threshold, the next major Windows release, will go as far as to disable Modern UI entirely on desktop PCs.

    We are being returned to Windows 7 desktop. There will be no Start SCREEN, no Modern, borderless screens. NO LIVE TILES.
    Correct me, if I'm mistaken, but as far as I know it's optional. Default setting for non touch devices is desktop, but a certain setting allows you to enable the metro UI.
    07-22-2014 08:06 AM
  10. Nerdy Woman's Avatar
    Correct me, if I'm mistaken, but as far as I know it's optional. Default setting for non touch devices is desktop, but a certain setting allows you to enable the metro UI.
    We don't know whether Metro will be optional on laptops/desktops or not. According to the article I linked to in the OP, we won't have the option. And that is the point of my post.
    07-22-2014 08:16 AM
  11. girishN's Avatar
    Yes, of course. I use it rarely. But in some occasion you just need it: Hit Windows, start typing for search. I don't like the Metro screen coming up then, I'd prefer a smaller start menu. Of course, it's not a deal breaker or anything to not have it, it's just something I'm looking forward to.
    I think you need windows+Q or windows+S combination here.
    07-22-2014 08:16 AM
  12. paulsalter's Avatar
    I hope this is not true, I have got used to how 8 works and would not like to see the start menu from previous versions be the only choice

    Wish MS would stop backtracking on things and going in the total opposite direction

    Give people an option, if some want Metro screen, let them have it, equally the same with the start menu, stop trying to force one on me because of the device I use
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    07-22-2014 08:20 AM
  13. TonyDedrick's Avatar
    I guess this would stink for those all about the Metro UI. I'll just keep using Windows like I have been
    07-22-2014 08:34 AM
  14. stanlm2's Avatar
    Surprised how many anti-startmenu fans are here. I'm a fan of giving a choice. I suggest the win UI choice menu to look like:
    1. start menu/taskbar
    2. old school win 3.1
    3. commandline dos
    4. are you serious? ok, here's metro
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    07-22-2014 09:26 AM
  15. Nerdy Woman's Avatar
    Surprised how many anti-startmenu fans are here. I'm a fan of giving a choice. I suggest the win UI choice menu to look like:
    1. start menu/taskbar
    2. old school win 3.1
    3. commandline dos
    4. are you serious? ok, here's metro
    I'm all for choice. Both my husband and daughter use 8.1 as if it were 7. Makes me wonder why they got new PCs with 8 installed while I had to make do with my vintage laptop and upgrade it...

    I've used all the others. I'll take Option 4, please.
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    07-22-2014 09:40 AM
  16. wpgeek820's Avatar
    Hey do you guys remember the Action Tiles demo by Microsoft Research a couple of months back? If the current start screen is going to be replaced by the older version, what's going to happen to the Action Tiles? I really liked it. It had a lot of potential.
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    07-22-2014 09:48 AM
  17. Nerdy Woman's Avatar
    Hey do you guys remember the Action Tiles demo by Microsoft Research a couple of months back? If the current start screen is going to be replaced by the older version, what's going to happen to the Action Tiles? I really liked it. It had a lot of potential.
    Wow. I had missed that article. Very cool. I don't know how the latest previews will mess with this idea, but MS Research has always tinkered with great ideas that never get to see the light of day.

    For others, here's the link: Microsoft Research shows off awesome interactive live tiles for Windows | Windows Phone Central
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-22-2014 10:07 AM
  18. jomarr's Avatar
    The only use of my start button at work and at home is when I need to shut down my PC. That's where it gets tricky for some users since it was extremely difficult to shut down with 8. I know that once you know how to shut down with 8, you'll get the hang of it.. With Windows, well, people would really rant about it. First of all, the Start menu is almost 20 years old. The tech has never been changed ever since so this is why people have been ranting about it.

    They need to add back the start menu BUT keep the metro UI. A lot likes it, including me. When they get the start menu back the rants will be OVER and the Metro UI would be completely forgotten by complainers.

    MS should just boot the PC to desktop first and not on the Metro Interface so some people would stop complaining. We all know it's easy but we have some really CUUUUTE tech users out there including some of my colleagues so instead of doing a favor to the tech savvy, do a favor to the tech intolerant, MS

    ​If all these changes are made and you still see complaining then I don't know what the hell they're doing with their PCs.
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    07-22-2014 10:12 AM
  19. BaritoneGuy's Avatar
    My point in posting this article is not about the start menu. Last paragraph. Bold text...

    Unofficial evidence suggests that Windows Threshold, the next major Windows release, will go as far as to "allow you to" disable Modern UI entirely on desktop PCs.

    We are being returned to Windows 7 desktop. There will be no Start SCREEN, no Modern, borderless screens. NO LIVE TILES.
    There FTFY
    07-23-2014 11:51 AM

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