11-14-2011 08:26 AM
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  1. jalb's Avatar
    I'm kind of in wait and see mode right now. I really like the Nokia Music service announced the other day, but was disappointed with the hardware.

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    10-29-2011 10:59 AM
  2. jalb's Avatar
    Although I have to be honest here and admit that if the Samsung Galaxy Note gets released in the US, and soon enough that it's specs aren't outdated when it happens, I'm gone like Donkey Kong.

    *erects flame shield +1*
    10-29-2011 11:20 AM
  3. desmonium's Avatar
    Note that for Lumia 800:

    1. Lumia does NOT have Gorilla Glass! (I checked everywhere on Nokia's website and they didn't mention this feature at all for Lumia 800, will they miss such a feature?)

    2. Lumia is quite thick (12.1mm compared to Focus S' 8.5mm)

    3. Capacitive buttons are too close to the screen, easy accidental clicks

    4. Pentile Matrix AMOLED, subpixels density is subpar. (though the actual image should be better than SAMOLED+ because of ClearBlack)

    5. Door design for microUSB plug, which you are gonna use almost everyday, and the more complicated it is, the higher the chance it is to get broken.

    6. No FFC for upcoming Skype integration (I don't care about this point tho).


    The pros of Nokia I won't mention here. It has many advantages such as build quality, carl zeiss optics, Nokia maps, awesome body and etc.

    Just my 2 cents for a fair view at Lumia 800
    10-29-2011 11:44 AM
  4. power5's Avatar
    N9 is just plastic though. Titan screen will be fine, just need to put it under a clear shield.
    10-29-2011 01:16 PM
  5. desmonium's Avatar
    N9 is just plastic though. Titan screen will be fine, just need to put it under a clear shield.
    Nope. N9 got real Gorilla Glass screen, whereas Lumia 800 does not.

    So for N9 you probably don't need screen protector. Lumia 800 needs one for sure - it's not even scratch-resistant glass.
    10-29-2011 01:24 PM
  6. power5's Avatar
    And its definitely just as in harms way as the titan.

    4S has gorilla glass and users of both the 4 and 4S have been saying they get small scratches much easier than they expected. Apparently there is some coating on the iPhone glass that is prone to scratches.
    10-29-2011 01:33 PM
  7. desmonium's Avatar
    And its definitely just as in harms way as the titan.

    4S has gorilla glass and users of both the 4 and 4S have been saying they get small scratches much easier than they expected. Apparently there is some coating on the iPhone glass that is prone to scratches.
    Nah... 4S and 4 do NOT have gorilla glass. Apple discontinued the deal after 3GS. All they got now is just scratch-resistant glass.

    Anyway, even gorilla glass can get scratched by sand.
    10-29-2011 01:43 PM
  8. palandri's Avatar
    And its definitely just as in harms way as the titan.

    4S has gorilla glass and users of both the 4 and 4S have been saying they get small scratches much easier than they expected. Apparently there is some coating on the iPhone glass that is prone to scratches.
    There must be a different coating they use on the iPhone. My wife and I both have Nokia N8's with gorilla glass for about a year and a half and neither phone has any type of scratch on the screen.
    10-29-2011 01:53 PM
  9. Big Supes's Avatar
    In all reality I think my next upgrade will be a WP8, but if I had the choice right now, I'd probably go with a Titan. It's all about the size. I love the Nokia 800, but it's just too small for me (having owned my HD7 since it's release).
    10-29-2011 02:57 PM
  10. desmonium's Avatar
    In all reality I think my next upgrade will be a WP8, but if I had the choice right now, I'd probably go with a Titan. It's all about the size. I love the Nokia 800, but it's just too small for me (having owned my HD7 since it's release).
    How about pixel density?

    I'd really like to do things with one hand sometimes. With Titan I don't think I am able to do that with my thumb. For example, when you have to call someone, you either have to break your thumb or lick the phone tile up in the top-left corner to complete that action.
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    10-29-2011 04:34 PM
  11. jfa1's Avatar
    I am torn. I'm ready to kick T-Mo to the curb so I am tempted to be down at an ATT store on the 6th for the Focus S. But, I really don't want a plasticy, cheap feeling phone, so I may try and tough it out until Nokia reveals their US portfolio. If the Ace's rumored specs are true and it has build/design similar to the Lumia 800 I am in. ****, if they just brought the Lumia 800 here I'd be in. Build quality is more important to me than a huge screen and I have no desire for a Front Camera.
    well I would go check it out in person before you write any device off. I would like to try and check out the focus and flash and titan on November 5 or 7. The titan my be out on the 7th.
    10-29-2011 05:20 PM
  12. wp7master's Avatar
    Improved camera and be able to change the background colours not just the tile colours.
    10-29-2011 07:35 PM
  13. Winterfang's Avatar

    1. Lumia does NOT have Gorilla Glass! (I checked everywhere on Nokia's website and they didn't mention this feature at all for Lumia 800, will they miss such a feature?)

    2. Lumia is quite thick (12.1mm compared to Focus S' 8.5mm)

    3. Capacitive buttons are too close to the screen, easy accidental clicks

    4. Pentile Matrix AMOLED, subpixels density is subpar. (though the actual image should be better than SAMOLED+ because of ClearBlack)

    5. Door design for microUSB plug, which you are gonna use almost everyday, and the more complicated it is, the higher the chance it is to get broken.

    6. No FFC for upcoming Skype integration (I don't care about this point tho).
    10-29-2011 09:44 PM
  14. jdevenberg's Avatar
    well I would go check it out in person before you write any device off. I would like to try and check out the focus and flash and titan on November 5 or 7. The titan my be out on the 7th.
    I have checked out many, many Samsung phones over the past 16 months (Galaxy S {multiple variants}, Galaxy S2 {Sprint's version}, Nexus S, Focus, and some of their lower end phones that I don't remember names of) and unless they have DRASTICALLY change their build quality for the Focus S over all their other phones, which I highly doubt, I won't like it. I haven't liked the feel of a single one of their phones in the past 16 months. And as far as the Titan, I know it isn't hugely bigger than an HD7, but I already think my HD7 is too big, so any bigger than my HD7 is an issue. I know it's thinner, but it is the diagonal distance across the screen that is too large, I hit the search button ALL THE TIME with my hand when I am trying to click something in the upper left corner of my phone when using it one handed (which is how I use my phone 80% of the time). I mean, I love the 4.3" screen when I use it to watch a movie once every three months, but other than that it stinks. It makes the phone harder to use. Because WP devices all have the same resolution you, don't get any more information displayed on the screen, the info displayed is just larger and more pixelated. All of these issues will be even worse on the Titan than they are on the HD7 and it isn't something I am interested in at all.

    Honestly out of all the devices announced for the US so far, the Radar is my favorite except for two big issues I can't get passed: it is on T-Mobile (who I want to leave) and it only has 8 gigs of storage. I am currently using 10 of my 16 gigs on my HD7, and that is with deleting pictures after they upload to skydrive.
    10-29-2011 09:54 PM
  15. desmonium's Avatar
    Lmao...!!

    i am still getting this cutie though. =P
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    10-29-2011 10:12 PM
  16. Big Supes's Avatar
    How about pixel density?
    From what I've read so far (from Titan owners), the screen resolution doesn't suffer in the slightest.

    I'd really like to do things with one hand sometimes. With Titan I don't think I am able to do that with my thumb. For example, when you have to call someone, you either have to break your thumb or lick the phone tile up in the top-left corner to complete that action.
    I'd say I have an average hand size and I have zero problems with my HD7. Adding 10mm across the overall screen size won't cause any problems... for me, at least. :)
    10-30-2011 09:04 AM
  17. power5's Avatar
    Nah... 4S and 4 do NOT have gorilla glass. Apple discontinued the deal after 3GS. All they got now is just scratch-resistant glass.

    Anyway, even gorilla glass can get scratched by sand.
    You are right its not gorilla glass but some corning proprietary for apple I think.

    There must be a different coating they use on the iPhone. My wife and I both have Nokia N8's with gorilla glass for about a year and a half and neither phone has any type of scratch on the screen.
    They use some olephobic coating to reduce fingerprints and smudges and make it easier to wipe clean. This is what gets scratched on iPhones.

    How about pixel density?

    I'd really like to do things with one hand sometimes. With Titan I don't think I am able to do that with my thumb. For example, when you have to call someone, you either have to break your thumb or lick the phone tile up in the top-left corner to complete that action.
    If you need to access apps with one hand put those in reach of your thumb. I cut a mock up of one with the home screen glued to the front. I had a slight issue hitting the app arrow but by shifting my hold a bit I was able to hit it. Top right icon was the only hard icon to hit for me but I use my left hand most times. If I have the device in my hand for one hand operation I can reach just fine. If I have it in my hand in phone call position I can not very well.
    Last edited by power5; 10-30-2011 at 10:14 AM.
    10-30-2011 10:09 AM
  18. FuriousGeorge984's Avatar
    Honestly out of all the devices announced for the US so far, the Radar is my favorite except for two big issues I can't get passed: it is on T-Mobile (who I want to leave) and it only has 8 gigs of storage. I am currently using 10 of my 16 gigs on my HD7, and that is with deleting pictures after they upload to skydrive.
    I also don't love that it is a slower processor than the rest of the phones coming out in this generation. This isn't as much of a problem now, but I'd assume that faster processors will stand up to the test of time and updates better than slower hardware.
    10-30-2011 10:25 AM
  19. desmonium's Avatar
    From what I've read so far (from Titan owners), the screen resolution doesn't suffer in the slightest.
    Put it side by side with any 3.7 screen and you will clearly see what's going on, or side by side with iPhone 4(S) (even worse)...


    If you need to access apps with one hand put those in reach of your thumb. I cut a mock up of one with the home screen glued to the front. I had a slight issue hitting the app arrow but by shifting my hold a bit I was able to hit it. Top right icon was the only hard icon to hit for me but I use my left hand most times. If I have the device in my hand for one hand operation I can reach just fine. If I have it in my hand in phone call position I can not very well.
    Yea, have to shift the hold up to reach the top part, and shift the hold down to reach the capacitive buttons. =(
    10-30-2011 12:12 PM
  20. Big Supes's Avatar
    Put it side by side with any 3.7 screen and you will clearly see what's going on, or side by side with iPhone 4(S) (even worse)...
    I can't really argue with that, although I don't watch movies or use my phone to view pictures in high quality. Personally, I think I'd be satisfied with the Titan's PQ, although that could change if I opt to go Super AMOLED.

    Incidentally, whilst browsing for PQ comparisons, I stumbled upon this review from Know Your Mobile: Apple iPhone 4S vs HTC Titan - iPhone 4S - Know Your Mobile

    Notice the Titan wins on OS. A worthy win by the Windows Phone team. :)

    Review: Operating System:
    Apple's new iOS 5 debuts on the new iPhone and brings over 200 new features including a drop-down Android-style notification bar, a BlackBerry Messenger-style instant messaging service called iMessage and a Siri voice-powered virtual Assistant to help you stay organised just by speaking instructions to it.

    The Titan runs the latest build of Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango. This is probably iOS 5's greatest challenger as it adds plenty of new features to offer a very rich and immersive platform.

    You're never more than a couple of swipes away from where you want to be on Mango and it's continually feeding you information from your various apps thanks to some deep integration and the clever use of Live Tiles.

    iOS 5 has plenty of new features to offer but we much prefer the intuitive and immersive features of Micrsosoft's Windows Phone platform.

    Winner - HTC Titan
    Yea, have to shift the hold up to reach the top part, and shift the hold down to reach the capacitive buttons. =(
    After just testing on my HD7, I can (without moving the position of my hand) touch the top and bottom of the handset. Having compared my HD7 to a Titan in store, I know for a fact the screen size wouldn't be an issue (for myself) in this department. :)
    10-30-2011 03:12 PM
  21. N8ter's Avatar
    Probably some Android Phone with a qHD screen and 16g internal storage + SD Card slot that isn't a Samsung ( #NeverAgain ). I like the Moto Atrix 2. Used one for about 3 hours yesterday and I was impressed. It's also slightly smaller anduch light than my HD7 even with the same screen size.

    I can't dig the new windows phones. Specs are. Not future proof. Just like the wave one phones without ffc or gyro, among other things. looks like Samsung is the only one releasing a rumored 32g phone as well, and they're off limits to me.


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    10-31-2011 01:53 PM
  22. HchQue's Avatar
    iphone 4s or lumia 800. But their prices are 500 and 442 respectively, lumia should be cheaper tbh! Also, I ADORE the curved screen on the lumia, but that BLOODY PENTILE MATRIX!!!!
    10-31-2011 02:02 PM
  23. Big Supes's Avatar
    Probably some Android Phone with a qHD screen and 16g internal storage + SD Card slot that isn't a Samsung ( #NeverAgain ). I like the Moto Atrix 2. Used one for about 3 hours yesterday and I was impressed. It's also slightly smaller anduch light than my HD7 even with the same screen size.

    I can't dig the new windows phones. Specs are. Not future proof. Just like the wave one phones without ffc or gyro, among other things. looks like Samsung is the only one releasing a rumored 32g phone as well, and they're off limits to me.


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    If you're interested in specs, Android is your phone; it needs a high spec to run it's shoddy OS. :)
    10-31-2011 02:50 PM
  24. VelJharig's Avatar
    I have an original Focus with 24 GB storage (found an SD card that works without issues).

    I'd like to upgrade... if I could find a second generation phone that had a ~4.3" AMOLED screen (non-pentile, preferably) with FFC and 32 GB+ of storage. Unfortunately Nokia and Samsung have both skimped on the specs for their phones - Lumia 800 missing FFC, 16GB storage, and screen too small; Focus S only comes with 16 GB storage. So... I'm not upgrading to this generation of WP devices. Hoping the Lumia 900 will be better... otherwise I'm not upgrading for a while.
    11-05-2011 03:56 PM
  25. Narr's Avatar
    Nope. N9 got real Gorilla Glass screen, whereas Lumia 800 does not.

    So for N9 you probably don't need screen protector. Lumia 800 needs one for sure - it's not even scratch-resistant glass.
    The Lumia 800 does have Gorilla Glass:

    CORNING GORILLA GLASS | NOKIA

    I read somewhere that Nokia would be using Gorilla Glass for all of their smartphones in the future.
    11-14-2011 08:26 AM
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