11-19-2015 07:10 PM
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  1. Daniel Ratcliffe's Avatar
    Uh oh. Don't throw down that sort of gauntlet. Now some carrier is going to have to try to beat it.
    Sure. You can change your phone once every five million years and you're locked into a five million year contract that will pass down the generations. If you don't have any kids it gets tacked onto your neighbour instead. $500'000'000 per minute/text/kb of data. $1'000'000'000 upfront payment for the phone plus you pay that monthly as a deductible for the phone.
    11-03-2015 06:19 AM
  2. Brian Thomsen's Avatar
    It depends on what you would be waiting for from a Surface Phone. Personally I am struggling with the decision myself. I am looking at a 950 but would really like to see support for the the Surface Pen, which I don't believe the 950's will support. It is the exact reason I am looking at getting a SP4 over a SP3. I have yet to decide if the pen support is a deal breaker for 950 as I currently use a Lumia 635.
    11-03-2015 03:58 PM
  3. bugelrex's Avatar
    If they add the pen support to 950XL, they would have the only phone on the market which supports pen, removablable battery and SD card. Another wasted opportunity from MS
    11-03-2015 04:57 PM
  4. Brian Thomsen's Avatar
    I think its one of the reasons I think that the 950 might be a placeholder until a Surface Phone is released. Granted a nice placeholder but I think Panos's lack of enthusiasm that many have pointed out is kind of telling that something else may be coming. I have no idea what a Pen functionality in its current form would have on a small screen like a 950 or 950XL. Its possible that the pen vs stylus (Galaxy Note for instance) requires a much more expensive piece of tech and or bulk that would add to the phone making it less attractive to consumers. Or it simply wouldn't be ready for this year's release and we would see it in the next release IE:Surface Phone.

    Edit: Speaking mainly of the pressure sensitivity. How fluid it is on a SP4 vs a SP3 and how it would be on a phone.
    11-03-2015 05:21 PM
  5. RobHalligan's Avatar
    Many complained that MS didn't have a new high-end phone. MS came out with two high-end phones even though they'd likely have preferred not to (since they've sold mostly low-end phones). So, I think, those of us who have been complaining should suck it up and buy these Lumia's if they can. I bought an 830 to support the ecosystem and will (plan to) buy one of the 950 models by February (even though my contract won't be up). Your ecosystem is in peril. Support it or it will go away.
    11-03-2015 05:50 PM
  6. jsooney's Avatar
    Explain, please. I'm changing my current unlimited plan which I've had for a decade now and costs waaaay too much money when I get the 950 so if it's a crappy plan, I want to know why, exactly.
    I think Hoosier explained it pretty well in his earlier post at 11-01-2015, 07:51 PM (adjust the hour for your time zone).

    There's also a good explanation here:
    Why AT&T's new pricing plans are only a bargain for some - CNET

    The article is a bit old but was recently updated.
    11-03-2015 06:46 PM
  7. John M Beauchemin's Avatar
    I think Hoosier explained it pretty well in his earlier post
    Saying "It will probably end up costing you more" is not an 'explanation'.

    Thanks for the link, reading now.

    *edit: Well, I'm more confused now than I was before, but it looks like the no-contract plan is the best in the long-run. I didn't get from AT&T's site that the NEXT plan actually cost more than a no contract plan. I thought the baseline was the same.
    Last edited by John M Beauchemin; 11-03-2015 at 07:04 PM.
    11-03-2015 06:51 PM
  8. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Get the 950/xl. The surface phone is only a rumor. Who knows when or if it will see daylight. Just look at the surface mini.
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    11-08-2015 05:29 AM
  9. poddie's Avatar
    For me, I find my 1520 just too big to be practical during regular use. I'm sick and tired of having to pull it out of my packet every time I want to sit down for fear that I will flex the screen. I'm not sure why anyone would want to wait (other than if you can't afford it now of course)... literally the only feature that is "missing" is pen support. To me, that is of very limited usefulness on a phone anyway. Everything else is in the 950... Super fast processor, good RAM, SD Card, removable battery, thin, great screen, glance, fantastic camera. I don't understand the complaints about its appearance either... it looks very slick. I wish they had colors available, but it seems the market has decided they don't care, so it's hard to blame them. What exactly is worth waiting another year for? I'm sure they will look cool and be a bit faster... but that is usually the case if you wait a year.
    anon(5843918) and libra89 like this.
    11-08-2015 05:58 AM
  10. Musicman247's Avatar
    If they add the pen support to 950XL, they would have the only phone on the market which supports pen, removablable battery and SD card. Another wasted opportunity from MS
    They already have the only phone on the market with removable battery, SD card, retina scanner and liquid cooling. So yeah, no biggy.

    I was debating waiting as well. Ended up deciding to preorder the 950 xl. It will be the best device running W10m, and even if they announce something better in the next 6 months I'll be able to sell it and get most of my money back.

    Surface phone as we imagine might not even happen. How many people do you know that would want a full PC in their pocket? Besides Windows enthusiasts. Not the largest market. Continuum is going to be mind-blowing enough for the general public.
    11-08-2015 07:58 AM
  11. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    Um.... What Surface Phone? Wait, was that Elvis who walked by? He had Surface Phone!!! (Get the new Lumias...)
    HoosierDaddy likes this.
    11-19-2015 03:18 PM
  12. jlangner's Avatar
    I don't get all the talk of surface phone. Dan has said several times including a askdan video that it would probably be for enterprise and if so they may cut things like high end camera, etc to keep cost down....why would you need all bells and whistles for enterprise??

    #AskDanWindows Episode 8 - Should Microsoft switch the Lumia brand for their new flagships? | Windows Central
    libra89 likes this.
    11-19-2015 06:48 PM
  13. SillyFlamingo's Avatar
    I will wait until Microsoft offers a surface-phone with an implemented flux capacitor. They probably are already working on it. Just another year and the perfect device will be mine. No doubt about that.
    It's all lies what the doctor says. I won't take his pills anymore.
    The voices know it all. They will guide me. "Wait for the surface phone" they shout.
    I see the light ...
    11-19-2015 07:10 PM
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