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  1. techiez's Avatar
    Microsoft exec confirms new Nokia phones incoming - GSMArena.com news

    According to the Vietnamese publication that quoted the Rutherfoord two new Nokia phones will come out by the end of the year and at least two smartphones in early Q2 of next year.
    So James Rutherfoord, CEO of Microsoft Asia-Pacific confirms that Nokia android phones are coming out and we have no news of their own surface phone.

    P.S. posted here because of the Irony that MS execs are going about confirming Nokia rumors and have nothing to say abt surface device(I wont call it phone for it may not be)
    10-19-2016 02:27 AM
  2. abhishek singh21's Avatar
    yep, we are already expecting Nokia D1C ;) later this year or early 2017.
    10-19-2016 06:22 AM
  3. HeyCori's Avatar
    Nokia talked about getting back into the biz over a year ago.

    Nokia reaffirms plans to get back into the smartphone business | Windows Central

    And there was another story sometime around May this year confirming the same story. I wouldn't call this a surprise announcement. In fact, they launched the Android powered Nokia N1 tablet about two years ago.
    10-19-2016 09:41 AM
  4. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    This isn't the same Nokia of yesteryear. That's gone. I believe the current Nokia company is licensing it's brand "Nokia" to other companies to make these tablets and proposed phones. Just like "Polaroid" cameras/devices aren't made by the original Polaroid company. Research it to verify. I haven't been able to find any information about who is doing the design or the engineering.
    Something in their deal with Microsoft must allow this to happen?
    Best Wishes
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 10-19-2016 at 10:32 AM.
    10-19-2016 10:09 AM
  5. Daniel Rubino's Avatar
    This isn't the same Nokia of yesteryear. That's gone. I believe the current Nokia company is licensing it's brand "Nokia" to other companies to make these tablets and proposed phones. Just like "Polaroid" cameras/devices aren't made by the original Polaroid company. Research it to verify. I haven't been able to find any information about who is doing the design or the engineering.
    Something in their deal with Microsoft must allow this to happen?
    Best Wishes
    Correct and the deal was Nokia could not make phones under it's name/brand until 2016.

    IIRC, most of these phones from Nokia are mid- to low-end Android. I wish them luck, they will need it. The Android market is hyper competitive and there are already a lot of good players out there doing it longer and better than Nokia. I think they'll be able to coast on their name for awhile, generate some hype, but in the long run I don't think it will matter too much.

    Maybe they can get their stock above $5 a share again. Jeez.
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    10-19-2016 10:44 AM
  6. HeyCori's Avatar
    This isn't the same Nokia of yesteryear. That's gone. I believe the current Nokia company is licensing it's brand "Nokia" to other companies to make these tablets and proposed phones. Just like "Polaroid" cameras/devices aren't made by the original Polaroid company. Research it to verify. I haven't been able to find any information about who is doing the design or the engineering.
    Something in their deal with Microsoft must allow this to happen?
    Best Wishes
    It's a newly founded Finland company called HMD Global.

    Nokia signs strategic brand and intellectual property licensing agreement

    Espoo, Finland - Nokia has announced plans that will see the Nokia brand return to the mobile phone and tablet markets on a global basis. Under a strategic agreement covering branding rights and intellectual property licensing, Nokia Technologies will grant HMD global Oy (HMD), a newly founded company based in Finland, an exclusive global license [1] to create Nokia-branded mobile phones and tablets for the next ten years. Under the agreement, Nokia Technologies will receive royalty payments from HMD for sales of Nokia-branded mobile products, covering both brand and intellectual property rights.
    Sounds a bit like HMD was created specifically to create phones for Nokia. I still couldn't find who is designing them. I'll assume Nokia is.
    10-19-2016 10:49 AM
  7. tgp's Avatar
    I think they'll be able to coast on their name for awhile
    I'm guessing that if Nokia has any success in Android, it will mostly be due to this. Isn't that primarily why WP made the progress it did a few years ago?
    10-19-2016 12:29 PM
  8. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I'm guessing that if Nokia has any success in Android, it will mostly be due to this. Isn't that primarily why WP made the progress it did a few years ago?
    That's why I bought a Windows Phone. I knew nothing about Windows Phone at the time but I used Nokia (Symbian) prior to BlackBerry, and I needed something to replace an aging BlackBerry device and didn't want iOS/Android at the time.
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    10-19-2016 01:37 PM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    That's why I bought a Windows Phone.
    Yes, that's what I'm talking about. This applies to you and probably most other Nokia Lumia users.

    I knew nothing about Windows Phone at the time but I used Nokia (Symbian) prior to BlackBerry, and I needed something to replace an aging BlackBerry device and didn't want iOS/Android at the time.
    To carry this further, Nokia users loved their Nokia and wanted to continue using a Nokia. The OS was less important than the manufacturer, just like it still is today for the majority of smartphone users.
    10-19-2016 02:25 PM
  10. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    Nokia didn't mean anything to me. Had barely heard of it here in Minnesota USA. All we wanted was a Windows phone upgrade from our HTC Windows 6.5 phones. If I remember correctly, they were our third HTC Windows mobile phones. The last ones, TouchPro 2 (s) had a slide out actual keyboard and tilting screen. Geez I wore off the lettering on the physical keys preparing word, excel, and emails!
    My wife upgraded to the HTC 8X, back then and I tried out a "Nokia" 822. Both without a real keyboard! We had our doubts, but no choice. The 822 was indestructible! I accidentally abused that phone endlessly dropping it. It just bounced and kept on working.
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 10-19-2016 at 07:05 PM.
    10-19-2016 06:44 PM
  11. patcherd's Avatar
    I only came to Windows because of Nokia. They had some of the best mobile devices going at one time..and many models.
    10-19-2016 07:07 PM
  12. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    I only came to Windows because of Nokia. They had some of the best mobile devices going at one time..and many models.
    Where are you from? I think it makes a difference. I don't think Nokia was in the USA?
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    10-19-2016 07:13 PM
  13. libra89's Avatar
    Where are you from? I think it makes a difference. I don't think Nokia was in the USA?
    Huh? They were, they are famous for those cell phones with games on them...and were also indestructible!

    I agree with @Laura Knotek and @patcherd . I also came because of them. Nokia had a great rep for reliable, solid phones and I heard a lot of good things about how strong and reliable their Windows Phones were from non-tech reviewers lol.
    10-19-2016 07:31 PM
  14. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Where are you from? I think it makes a difference. I don't think Nokia was in the USA?
    I'm from the US, and I got a Nokia E62 in 2006 and a Nokia E71 in 2009.
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    10-19-2016 08:08 PM
  15. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Nokia didn't mean anything to me. Had barely heard of it here in Minnesota USA. All we wanted was a Windows phone upgrade from our HTC Windows 6.5 phones. If I remember correctly, they were our third HTC Windows mobile phones. The last ones, TouchPro 2 (s) had a slide out actual keyboard and tilting screen. Geez I wore off the lettering on the physical keys preparing word, excel, and emails!
    My wife upgraded to the HTC 8X, back then and I tried out a "Nokia" 822. Both without a real keyboard! We had our doubts, but no choice. The 822 was indestructible! I accidentally abused that phone endlessly dropping it. It just bounced and kept on working.
    My only knowledge of original Windows Mobile was from the TV commercial Ozzy Osbourne did for the Samsung Jack. Nobody I knew used legacy Windows Mobile. Most folks I knew used BlackBerry.
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    10-19-2016 08:10 PM
  16. rinosaur's Avatar
    Sounds a bit like HMD was created specifically to create phones for Nokia. I still couldn't find who is designing them. I'll assume Nokia is.
    HMD picked up a lot of ex-Nokia people who were laid off. Nokia is a very focused and "lean" company now (despite having 100k employees) and I don't think they want to get near phones again. Nokia knows the value of the brand and therefore wants to keep it out there in the public space through HMD. Nokia however, did buy Withings to keep up to date in the "connected devices/IoT" market which it is interested in the near future with 5G.

    Nokia Technologies dept will ensure HMD will put out a world class product. I don't know if/how much patent technology they will let HMD have or if they will charge for it.
    Last edited by rinosaur; 10-19-2016 at 10:36 PM. Reason: clarify wordage
    10-19-2016 10:33 PM
  17. rinosaur's Avatar
    Maybe they can get their stock above $5 a share again. Jeez.
    Telecom is having a rough year in 2016, but despite dipping under $5/share market cap is still near $30b USD, while Ericsson is getting smashed by scandals.

    Nokia wants to keep the name in the light until potential IoT devices get released under the brand in the future.
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    10-19-2016 10:42 PM
  18. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    Huh? They were, they are famous for those cell phones with games on them...and were also indestructible!

    I agree with @Laura Knotek and @patcherd . I also came because of them. Nokia had a great rep for reliable, solid phones and I heard a lot of good things about how strong and reliable their Windows Phones were from non-tech reviewers lol.
    I apologize if you took offense to my comments. It was just intended as solely my honest point of view and it still stands. I did not, and would never claim there are not other points of view. Especially in different parts of the world. Do you agree?
    10-19-2016 10:42 PM
  19. libra89's Avatar
    I apologize if you took offense to my comments. It was just intended as solely my honest point of view and it still stands. I did not, and would never claim there are not other points of view. Especially in different parts of the world. Do you agree?
    I understand where you are coming from, no offense taken and I agree. I was just surprised that you asked. I remember wanting one when they were popular and then when they came out in color, I wanted it more.
    10-19-2016 10:54 PM
  20. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    I'm from the US, and I got a Nokia E62 in 2006 and a Nokia E71 in 2009.
    I apologize, I honestly, truly do not know what those phones are. What USA carrier were they on?
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    10-19-2016 10:58 PM
  21. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    My only knowledge of original Windows Mobile was from the TV commercial Ozzy Osbourne did for the Samsung Jack. Nobody I knew used legacy Windows Mobile. Most folks I knew used BlackBerry.
    Now, no disrespect intended, I am shocked. I never heard of non-corporate or non-government people using blackberry! Many of my friends used Compaq and then HP Ipaq Pocket PCs using Windows and they naturally moved to Windows Mobile phones. I respect that your experience is different than mine. I think that is okay. Do you?
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 10-19-2016 at 11:35 PM.
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    10-19-2016 11:06 PM
  22. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I apologize, I honestly, truly do not know what those phones are. What USA carrier were they on?
    Don't worry. You didn't say anything offensive. 😊

    I have AT&T, but I know that T-Mobile also carried Nokia phones.
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    10-19-2016 11:38 PM
  23. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Now, no disrespect intended, I am shocked. I never heard of non-corporate or non-government people using blackberry! Many of my friends used Compaq and then HP Ipaq Pocket PCs using Windows and they naturally moved to Windows Mobile phones. I respect that your experience is different than mine. I think that is okay. Do you?
    Yes, this is OK.

    I used to see BlackBerry devices everywhere, even in grocery stores and in colleges. I remember when AT&T put Ohio State University wallpaper on a red BlackBerry the year that Ohio State won the football national championship.

    I never saw anything from Compaq that wasn't a desktop or notebook PC.
    10-19-2016 11:43 PM
  24. techiez's Avatar
    I think the key to success of Nokia/HMD phones would be the camera tech.
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    10-20-2016 12:37 AM
  25. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    I think the key to success of Nokia/HMD phones would be the camera tech.
    I wonder who now owns the prior Nokia camera tech patents?
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-20-2016 01:16 AM
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