08-02-2013 02:19 PM
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  1. theefman's Avatar
    Which Telefonica/Movisar carriers use AWS? AFAIK only the Rogers 900/920 were ever released with AWS frequencies, I've never heard of any other carriers apart from Wind and TMobile that use AWS for HSPA or LTE. Would be good to know so we can watch out for when those phones are released.
    07-27-2013 03:30 PM
  2. TexasLabRat's Avatar
    Which Telefonica/Movisar carriers use AWS? AFAIK only the Rogers 900/920 were ever released with AWS frequencies, I've never heard of any other carriers apart from Wind and TMobile that use AWS for HSPA or LTE. Would be good to know so we can watch out for when those phones are released.
    Look for the "Band 4" entries:
    List of LTE networks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    07-27-2013 08:50 PM
  3. lsquare's Avatar
    I talked to Negri Electronics support and they said it will work on any GSM network
    That doesn't really say a lot. Most phones coming out these days work on all 2G networks. Will the version from Negri work on Rogers' LTE network?
    07-28-2013 01:46 AM
  4. LastBattle's Avatar
    That doesn't really say a lot. Most phones coming out these days work on all 2G networks. Will the version from Negri work on Rogers' LTE network?
    hmm.. Why not? The Lumia 920 for Asia/Europe does support 2G, 3G and even penta band LTE.

    As for ATT variant, I expect the same except for the incompatibility in LTE unless you are in North America.
    07-28-2013 02:41 AM
  5. treetownal's Avatar
    Just sent this to Nokia support - will post an answer If/once I receive..

    Nokia 1020 AT&T for USA:

    I am buying this as carrier unlocked. T-Mobile LTE is AWS Band 4 - will the unlocked USA 1020 work on T-Mobile LTE?

    Thank you in advance.
    Interested to hear what they tell you. I chatted with them last week and after investigating Nokia support told me it would be LTE capable on T Mobile if your area was refarmed.
    07-28-2013 09:55 AM
  6. gbach9's Avatar
    Hey guys. Went to att Saturday bought phone outright. They told me they would unlock it for me. They couldn't. so I ended up returning it. I guess I have no choice but to buy from negri. But if you guys get it working on t mobile network let me know. I'm going to end up getting it but a definite answer would be awesome thanks
    07-29-2013 01:59 AM
  7. Zenoctilles's Avatar
    Yeah, would like to hear from those who are buying from Negri before I plunk the cash down for one.
    07-29-2013 07:07 AM
  8. palandri's Avatar
    Negri has a good ResellerRatings. I wouldn't hesitate to order from them: Negri Electronics Reviews - negrielectronics.com Ratings at ResellerRatings
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    07-29-2013 07:23 AM
  9. antiochian2010's Avatar
    Availability just changed from 7/30 to 8/2. Since I preordered right after they offered on the website I had my fingers crossed that the 8/2 was for any new orders coming and wouldn't effect mine and other early preorders. Alas, not to be.. Francisco confirmed that ALL units are delayed to the 2nd..
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    07-29-2013 05:53 PM
  10. gbach9's Avatar
    i saw that availability change as well. i got this from francisco about an hour ago not sure what to make of it. guess im going to have to wait and see, does anyone know which model he is specifically talking about?


    hello,

    Thank you for your reply. This unit will not support T-Mobiles network. There is a model that is specific to T-mobiles network. Unfortunately the unit we have on our site will not work due to restrictions. Thank you and have a nice day.
    07-29-2013 06:30 PM
  11. antiochian2010's Avatar
    Hey, I am going to clear something up here.
    Francisco was totally misquoted. The contradiction was too weird so I thought I'd check with him directly in care there was an issue outside of the bands. Turns out Francisco CONFIRMS that the unlocked version WILL work as long as the phone's in an LTE area. With his permission I am pasting the conversation I had with him here. If any are in doubt - please contact Francisco or Negri DIRECTLY and don't pay heed to these rumors.. Cheers,

    Francisco:
    Hello, my name is Francisco.
    How may I help you?
    me: Hi Francisco,
    There has been some arguing on various boards about the unlocked Lumia 1020 (any color)
    Some are quoting you as saying that it absolutely will not work on T-Mobile's network even though it is unlocked.
    However, TMbile boards are confirming that the ATT version bands are completely compatible with T-Mobile as long as unit is indeed unlocked and the user is in a refarmed area that has LTE
    If the phone won't work with T-Mobile, is there any specific reason, and if that's the case, where would buyers use an unlocked ATT version?
    Francisco: Yes that is correct as long as you are in the new coverage area this will support LTE
    Can you please provide me with the link of the blog?
    me: I THOUGHT so!! This sounded too weird. SUre.. stand by..
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...ectronics.html
    Francisco: Thank you
    me: I am registered so can make a response on the board quoting you here - that is if it's ok with you.
    Francisco: Yes this is fine.
    Last edited by antiochian2010; 07-30-2013 at 01:53 PM.
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    07-29-2013 07:30 PM
  12. LastBattle's Avatar
    Expecting it to be available today :( can't wait
    07-29-2013 08:56 PM
  13. gbach9's Avatar
    I didn't miss quote him. And I wasn't trying to start rumors. I copied it directly from the email he sent me. I sent him screen shots of some pages and I guess he misunderstood what I was asking. I'm glad you got that info from him because I already got shafted on $35 on the restocking fee from att I just want to make sure I get a phone that works.
    07-30-2013 01:02 AM
  14. antiochian2010's Avatar
    GBach, I wasn't directing at you personally. This conversation was occurring before your post. I wasn't trying to point fingers, just trying to clear the air and get rid of the confusion re TMobile. Peace.
    07-30-2013 01:55 AM
  15. webdave's Avatar
    Hopefully I'm wrong but I see more shipping delays in the future. It doesn't look like AT&T is releasing unlock codes claiming the device is exclusive on their network like they did with the 920. If this is the case I don't see how Negri is going to be able to unlock them until that period is up which is normally 6 months.
    07-30-2013 08:36 AM
  16. antiochian2010's Avatar
    Hopefully I'm wrong but I see more shipping delays in the future. It doesn't look like AT&T is releasing unlock codes claiming the device is exclusive on their network like they did with the 920. If this is the case I don't see how Negri is going to be able to unlock them until that period is up which is normally 6 months.
    Hope you're wrong!!

    If you're right, I'll move to the 925 and pick up whatever 41MP thing comes out next year..
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    07-30-2013 11:47 AM
  17. gbach9's Avatar
    sorry antiochian, i took your post the wrong way. i just wanted you guys to know what i was hearing even if though it was incorrect but im glad you talked to him and corrected my misunderstanding with him. hopefully everything works out with your order let us know because like i said, i got the galaxy 4 right now, and i was messing around taking pictures with the 1020 on saturday before i had to return it because it was unable to be unlocked, and the difference in photo quality is not even close.


    oh ya and to respond to your above post, when i went ot ATT on saturday they had plenty in stock, but when i called their customer care and talked to them the guy was super cool but he pretty much told me i was **** out of luck and there was no way he could unlock it :/
    07-30-2013 01:37 PM
  18. antiochian2010's Avatar
    No problem GBach. There is so much out there that has been confusing. I did see your post but figured you were just another one of the confused. I'm sorry if I implied that there were actual rumor mongers out there. I figured that with this being so new and with the AT&T situation, that what little information existing was being distorted. But I don't think there was much if any actual trolling - I think all the misunderstandings out there have been in good faith.

    So thank you, Francisco from NegriCare, for setting everything straight finally.

    In short, for T-Mobilers:

    LTE/Refarmed: GOOD
    Non-LTE, No refarm: Hope you like Edge 2G!

    GBach - As far as the Galaxy 4, I had actually heard very good things about the camera - but those comments were specific to the S4 Zoom - is that what you have, or another S4?
    07-30-2013 01:44 PM
  19. gbach9's Avatar
    im using the regular S4 that came out a few months ago. i seriously cant put into words how different the definition between the S4 and lumia cameras are. there was this little kind of globe sphere almost like a lego land kind of diorama with these little dolls fishing. next to it there was a small sign the size if your finger nail (to give you an idea), the sign said "no fishing", i was taking pictures with my S4 and comparing it to the 1020. you could zoom in and read the no fishing as clearly as you are reading this post now on the 1020, and on my S4 you could see it said something but not really make out what it said. my S4 crushes the lumia on screen and speed, but i wasnt upset with the lumia screen when i had it and it seemed to run smooth, other than the fact that it keep on saying "sim error" because i had my tmobile chip on there. the camera being so much better on the lumia is a sacrifice i can deal with. :)

    im going to check out the zoom right now, have not seen much on it except on gsmarena
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    07-30-2013 02:39 PM
  20. antiochian2010's Avatar
    Hopefully I'm wrong but I see more shipping delays in the future. It doesn't look like AT&T is releasing unlock codes claiming the device is exclusive on their network like they did with the 920. If this is the case I don't see how Negri is going to be able to unlock them until that period is up which is normally 6 months.
    Hi WebDave,

    I think I have good evidence that things are (eventually) going to go well here with Negri. I found out that unlocked versions are already on eBay, and if you want to shell out $900, you can get one to ship today. Apparently some have already shipped from this seller in Union City, NJ. Since they have inventory, to me that indicates that there is an unlock method in place.

    (edit) Disregard - feedback on the guy claiming to have these is horrible. Wish I had read further before posting!

    Here's the link to the Yellow Unlocked..

    Nokia Lumia 1020 Unlocked Smartphone in Yellow | eBay
    Last edited by antiochian2010; 07-30-2013 at 04:44 PM.
    07-30-2013 03:36 PM
  21. webdave's Avatar
    Thanks for the link. Not that I'm doubting you but I'd be interested to see if that seller actually has stock. If you view his feedback there are a number of comments saying he sold phones without actually having them.

    When AT&T released the Lumia 920 you couldn't but an unlocked AT&T model because the codes didn't exist. No one on Ebay or anywhere else was able to get access to them. I had to wait for at least 6 months before the flood gates opened. Hopefully this isn't the case for the 1020.
    07-30-2013 03:57 PM
  22. antiochian2010's Avatar
    Good point, webdave! I admit I didn't read any of the feedback.. Fingers crossed..

    (edit) Oh man, you are right; this guy's feedback is crap. 84% for a relatively new user. Boy did I pick a great example.. :/
    07-30-2013 04:37 PM
  23. antiochian2010's Avatar
    Follow up from Nokia Care:

    From: nokiausa.customercare@nokia.com [mailto:nokiausa.customercare@nokia.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:03 PM
    To: antiochian@outlook.com
    Subject: RE: Email to Nokia care

    Hi Adam,


    Thank you for emailing Nokia Care.

    We understand that you would like to know if an unlocked Nokia Lumia 1020 from the US will work with T-Mobile's LTE network. While we are unable to guarantee the compatibility of the said phone model with T-Mobile LTE, we would like to inform you that our latest smartphone supports the following LTE frequency bands (in MHz):

    700
    850
    1700
    1900
    2100

    Please note that it will be dependent on your network service provider if they will be able to support the Nokia Lumia 1020 and its network related features such as LTE. In this case, we would suggest that you contact them directly for further assistance regarding this matter.

    If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again. To ensure proper handling of your case, kindly continue using the current subject line.

    You may also call Nokia Careline at 1-888-665-4228 from Mondays to Fridays at 10:00 a.m. - 8:00 p.m. EST (closed on national public holidays) for immediate assistance.


    Kind regards,

    Vincent D.
    E-mail Specialist
    Nokia, Inc.

    Follow us on twitter @NokiaCareUS


    So at least they didn't say this was not possible due to any issues outside locking or frequencies :)
    07-30-2013 04:38 PM
  24. gbach9's Avatar
    Hey antiochain so I went ahead and pre ordered from negri. Might as well. So you expect to have your order on Friday or you think it will ship Friday?
    07-31-2013 02:45 PM
  25. antiochian2010's Avatar
    GBach, I'm not counting on anything.. .I HOPE it ships Friday; I am looking at their site several x per day just to see if the Delivery date gets blown out again. With the popularity of it, I just don't have any feel for how this week's going to go.
    07-31-2013 03:47 PM
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