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  1. TaichiSurface's Avatar
    hey at least I think they fixed the problem that using IE will get your phone hot after a while (ie. it doesn't drain battery like crazy like in WP8) which is a great thing
    04-18-2014 11:05 AM
  2. Prateek Kumar's Avatar
    Say you load a very long article, and start reading it. In the middle, you want to do something else, so you press the Start button and get to a different app, leaving IE behind. Once that's done, you get back to IE.
    In WP 8, the long article you were reading would be waiting for you exactly where you stopped reading, no matter how long you spend outside.
    But in WP 8.1, if you spend even 15 minutes with the phone locked on the start screen without opening any other apps, as soon as you get back to IE, the page will reload. Now this itself is okay, but the problem is that when this happens, most of the time, the page will go back to top, and you will lose the point where you were last, which is a great annoyance for some of us who read large texts on the phone's browser.
    And if reading mode were to be on when switched to the start screen, chances are that the page won't load at all when you get back, leaving you with a blank screen, forcing you to exit reading mode and refresh manually.


    It's also absolutely horrible when dealing with large pages, though it's still better than IE 11 because it doesn't have the reloading issue, at the least.
    Are you using 512MB RAM device?
    04-18-2014 11:05 AM
  3. Maytag87's Avatar
    I can browse to Phonearena.com without issue. The page completely renders in 5 seconds or less on every attempt on my Lumia 928. I'd test this on WP8.0 out of curiousity, but I updated all my 4 phones to 8.1... Do you have another example site that crashes the WP8.1?

    Do you have an example site that uses popups that cannot be opened by IE 11?
    04-18-2014 11:11 AM
  4. TheJoester09's Avatar
    Say you load a very long article, and start reading it. In the middle, you want to do something else, so you press the Start button and get to a different app, leaving IE behind. Once that's done, you get back to IE.
    In WP 8, the long article you were reading would be waiting for you exactly where you stopped reading, no matter how long you spend outside.
    But in WP 8.1, if you spend even 15 minutes with the phone locked on the start screen without opening any other apps, as soon as you get back to IE, the page will reload. Now this itself is okay, but the problem is that when this happens, most of the time, the page will go back to top, and you will lose the point where you were last, which is a great annoyance for some of us who read large texts on the phone's browser.
    And if reading mode were to be on when switched to the start screen, chances are that the page won't load at all when you get back, leaving you with a blank screen, forcing you to exit reading mode and refresh manually.
    Wow, that is annoying. I just tested this using this thread though, and the page did reload when I returned to IE, but it placed me back where I left off. Maybe it depends on how the website is coded? Either way, it's annoying to have to wait for it to refresh.
    04-18-2014 11:22 AM
  5. acewing905's Avatar
    Wow, that is annoying. I just tested this using this thread though, and the page did reload when I returned to IE, but it placed me back where I left off. Maybe it depends on how the website is coded? Either way, it's annoying to have to wait for it to refresh.
    It's random when in normal mode. Sometimes it places you back at the correct point, but sometimes it takes you back to top.
    In reading mode, it's sometimes back to top, and sometimes it doesn't load at all. This really needs to be fixed.
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    04-18-2014 12:02 PM
  6. adam220891's Avatar
    WP is better than Android, but IE11 is trash vs Dolphin/Chrome/plethora of options on Android
    04-18-2014 12:12 PM
  7. MikeSo's Avatar
    Say you load a very long article, and start reading it. In the middle, you want to do something else, so you press the Start button and get to a different app, leaving IE behind. Once that's done, you get back to IE.
    In WP 8, the long article you were reading would be waiting for you exactly where you stopped reading, no matter how long you spend outside.
    But in WP 8.1, if you spend even 15 minutes with the phone locked on the start screen without opening any other apps, as soon as you get back to IE, the page will reload. Now this itself is okay, but the problem is that when this happens, most of the time, the page will go back to top, and you will lose the point where you were last, which is a great annoyance for some of us who read large texts on the phone's browser.
    And if reading mode were to be on when switched to the start screen, chances are that the page won't load at all when you get back, leaving you with a blank screen, forcing you to exit reading mode and refresh manually.


    It's also absolutely horrible when dealing with large pages, though it's still better than IE 11 because it doesn't have the reloading issue, at the least.
    Yep, this is a problem. It was an issue in WP8 as well (in regular mode), but less so. It has gotten more frequent in WP8.1, and it's definitely a noticeable drawback.

    I'll shamelessly bring up the issue I have with not being able to view my Citi credit card site too:
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...more-ie11.html

    When I go to any of the Citi sites, like https://online.citibank.com/US/Welcome.c for example, it never lets me log in, I just get redirected back and forth to different URLs and then end up where I started, or on another login page. I have seen this happen with other sites as well, but I can't remember which ones. It seems like IE11 has some problem with some sites.

    The new stuff is great, and when these bugs get fixed IE11 will be much better than IE10 was. I hope they take care of it soon. :)
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    04-18-2014 12:32 PM
  8. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Chrome on Android is by far the WORST browser experience on mobile browsing (Chrome for iOS was good before they f*cked it up) It's sluggish,unresponsive,slow and laggy (Both tablet and smartphone version) It doesn't even pinch to zoom properly If you want a decent browser on Android use the vanilla one or Firefox And also I think you didn't give IE a chance at all I've used almost any browser and have somewhat experience of IE (5-11) and I'm pretty sure Windows Mobile 5 had a better browsing experience than Chrome on Android
    I don't agree with you about Chrome for Android. I find it very good on my Moto G. But you make a good point about choice. At least on Android you can use another browser if you don't like Chrome. Please Microsoft, set WP free!
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    04-18-2014 12:38 PM
  9. A895's Avatar
    Chrome on Android is by far the WORST browser experience on mobile browsing (Chrome for iOS was good before they f*cked it up) It's sluggish,unresponsive,slow and laggy (Both tablet and smartphone version) It doesn't even pinch to zoom properly If you want a decent browser on Android use the vanilla one or Firefox And also I think you didn't give IE a chance at all I've used almost any browser and have somewhat experience of IE (5-11) and I'm pretty sure Windows Mobile 5 had a better browsing experience than Chrome on Android
    Chrome is not the worst. It works fine on my RAZR M and Moto X. It used to be bad but it has gotten way better.

    Posted via the WPC App for Android!
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    04-18-2014 01:02 PM
  10. Xpider_MX's Avatar
    Crhome is a mature, with several updates web browser, IE11 is a new, no updates and beta web browser.

    Yes, comparable software

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    04-18-2014 01:06 PM
  11. MikeSo's Avatar
    Crhome is a mature, with several updates web browser, IE11 is a new, no updates and beta web browser.
    What do you mean "beta"? I haven't seen anything about it being a beta version.
    04-18-2014 01:18 PM
  12. Impenneteri's Avatar
    How about using UC Browser or Surfy Free? I have it but I can't test it right now as I am not connected.
    04-18-2014 01:23 PM
  13. Xpider_MX's Avatar
    What do you mean "beta"? I haven't seen anything about it being a beta version.



    Beta, unfinished, all the software in the preview is preview software (the core OS is the final version).




    Some system apps have been updated since preview launch.


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    04-18-2014 01:24 PM
  14. A895's Avatar
    Beta, unfinished, all the software in the preview is preview software (the core OS is the final version).




    Some system apps have been updated since preview launch.


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    Then why is a beta being so easily downloaded my so many? Usually betas are more inclusive. No, this is the final software without minor tweaks that will be available when it goes OTA. But for all intents and purposes this is how it will be. Minor stuff like the IE issue will be fixed but this is not a beta.

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    04-18-2014 01:34 PM
  15. acewing905's Avatar
    Yep, this is a problem. It was an issue in WP8 as well (in regular mode), but less so. It has gotten more frequent in WP8.1, and it's definitely a noticeable drawback.
    I don't recall having it ever happen to me back in WP 8, honestly. Maybe it happened once or twice, but if it did, it did certainly to such a negligible level that I don't remember it at all. But with this, it happens almost always. So irritating.

    Beta, unfinished, all the software in the preview is preview software (the core OS is the final version).




    Some system apps have been updated since preview launch.


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    Just because it's getting more updates doesn't mean it's a beta. Finalized software get updates all the time. The only app that's in beta is Cortana. IE 11 is not a beta.
    04-18-2014 01:40 PM
  16. Xpider_MX's Avatar
    Well, then WPCentral is wrong because I read it here, in a WPCentral article.

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    04-18-2014 02:09 PM
  17. dorelse's Avatar
    I did test IE11 over lunch, and yes, it does reload the page again...not just resume to it. It did place me at the same spot I was at though...interesting...it does seem to close the browser down and try to save the page location for viewing when IE resumes. Interesting...
    04-18-2014 02:26 PM
  18. antsin3d's Avatar
    I don't have any issues with IE11 or Chrome...guess I'm not picky enough ;P phonearena loads fast and smooth on both for me!
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    04-18-2014 03:28 PM
  19. Moiz Mian's Avatar
    IE 11 improves a lot but still not as good as Chrome in Android.

    Today I was comparing IE 11 with by brothers Android phone.
    I am not going to talk about speed here but the things IE can't do but Chrome can do.

    1. IE 11 still can't open sites which open with pop ups.
    It's quite annoying that WP IE 11 can only open sites which doesn't have pop's just like old JAVA or S40 phones.
    Come on MS, it's 2014 a smartphone era and IE 11 still sames level as old phones now.

    2. IE in WP8.1 still crashes like WP 8 when we open heavy sites. I notice IE 11 very often crashes and struggle to open sites like Phonearena.com but Chrome easily open and very fluidly works without any crashes.

    If anyone of you have Android phone you can confirm it your self.

    I don't know if IE for WP8.1 is still a beta or a stable version but it still needs lots of improvement.
    I thought MS is going to fix this in next update but they didn't.
    I think these are pretty basic thing that a good browser must do.
    What you guys think?
    IE 11 has NEVER crashed on my 1020, so I'm not sure but it seems like you're having some other kind of issues. Also, phonearena.com opens very fast and I can browse it very fluidly.

    In regards to the popup thing, can you provide a link to test? I have yet to visit a site that won't open because of popups.

    Alsoo, IE is very fluid when scrolling and zooming and Chrome on Android is slow and unnatural. (I have a quad-core Nexus 4 at home as well) I personally think IE11 may not have some of the advanced features of Chrome, and that has always been the case, but speed is probably the biggest advantage of IE. Windows Phone's browser is very very fast. You should also try sunspider browser test on a Galaxy S4/S5 and watch how the benchmark is barely faster than a 2 year old Snapdragon S4 in a WP running IE11.

    Just be certain what device do you have? Sounds like you must have a budget phone if you're having performance issues
    04-18-2014 03:58 PM
  20. chocka's Avatar
    IE 11 has NEVER crashed on my 1020, so I'm not sure but it seems like you're having some other kind of issues. Also, phonearena.com opens very fast and I can browse it very fluidly.

    In regards to the popup thing, can you provide a link to test? I have yet to visit a site that won't open because of popups.

    Alsoo, IE is very fluid when scrolling and zooming and Chrome on Android is slow and unnatural. (I have a quad-core Nexus 4 at home as well) I personally think IE11 may not have some of the advanced features of Chrome, and that has always been the case, but speed is probably the biggest advantage of IE. Windows Phone's browser is very very fast. You should also try sunspider browser test on a Galaxy S4/S5 and watch how the benchmark is barely faster than a 2 year old Snapdragon S4 in a WP running IE11.

    Just be certain what device do you have? Sounds like you must have a budget phone if you're having performance issues
    I tried loading phonearena.com. I don't have any issues either. I haven't seen any crash so far with ie11. I also would like to know which site with pop ups not working?
    I feel that IE is very fast. Faster than the android browser on my friends lg g2.
    04-18-2014 04:23 PM
  21. Pontifex's Avatar
    My Lumia 1520 loads phonearena.com (I assume you mean desktop version) without breaking a sweat.
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    04-18-2014 05:34 PM
  22. vlad0's Avatar
    Guys windows phone is a developing OS
    Every OS is developing... its matter of maturity level at this point.
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    04-18-2014 05:51 PM
  23. omgitsnick's Avatar
    Actually, IE11 does open pop ups now and it's really annoying, especially when visiting government sites (in my country). I mean do you really have to have a separate window to login? I liked it before when IE10 opened the link in the same window, not opening a separate one and going on from that, deserting the previous tab and taking up memory. And no, it doesn't crash.
    04-18-2014 06:53 PM
  24. ErR0rPr0n3's Avatar
    Then why is a beta being so easily downloaded my so many? Usually betas are more inclusive. No, this is the final software without minor tweaks that will be available when it goes OTA. But for all intents and purposes this is how it will be. Minor stuff like the IE issue will be fixed but this is not a beta.

    Posted via the WPC App for Android!
    What do you need to do to get this update? (I'm guessing you may not be aware having posted from an android device but that's just a assumption). You need to register as a developer. Only then will you get the update to any devices linked to that developer account (its been a while for me so the specifics you can read about elsewhere). When MS made it free, the exact thing they were probably hoping to avoid happened which is that lots of non-developers signed up for the program just to get the latest shiny bits early. So yes, it is a preview...No it is not all final code...Yes it's reasonable to assume they are going to update the browser between now and the actual OS release date, Its also fairly reasonable to assume that we're running a debug build with extra junk in it to report issues back to MS in more detail than a final release would have, and hence it being a bit slower (although I don't see it personally). These are the things most devs would expect from a developer/preview/beta/whatever the latest marketing term is that isn't final... release.
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    04-18-2014 07:40 PM
  25. MikeSo's Avatar
    When MS made it free, the exact thing they were probably hoping to avoid happened which is that lots of non-developers signed up for the program just to get the latest shiny bits early.
    There is no indication that MS hoped to avoid this. They made this Dev program extremely easy to sign up to, and publicized it and made it unlimited.
    A895 likes this.
    04-18-2014 08:21 PM
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