IE 11 (WP 8.1) vs. Google Chrome.(Android)

[FearL0rd]

Crap system? Enlighten us with some facts, and sources.

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All my old Android phones freezes and lags every time and I gave up... My old GS2 and GS3 freeze all the time. This is my experience.

My fried has a new phone with KK and looks like they fixed the problem now. but all new phones has a lot of CPU power.

Just search on the internet and I will find 1000's of topics talking about this.
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[Bram Vanroy]

I'm pretty sure IE 11 is a built in app and therefore can only be updated with OS updates right? Cause, if that's the case that is not a good idea. I doubt using a third party app is that disastrous, it's actually a good idea, I doing someone will make a browser and abandon it for a few months if something is wrong with it.

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Hm, good point. IE Mobile (10/11) doesn't have a large market share yet, so hackers/malicious developers are not fully focusing their attention on it. However, if IE's share increases, more security leaks will arise. I do hope that these can be fixed and pushed without needing a complete software update.

I do believe, however, that this shouldn't be too big of a problem. Just think of how IE is updated on desktop. It updates in Windows Update, together with other updates. And that isn't a problem. The problem is, however, that 8.1 has the option to automatically install app updates, but the question is whether this applies to OS specific apps such as IE. How can MS push updates for IE then? Forcing automatic updates of the OS? But not everyone likes that.

Interesting question - but possibly slightly off-topic.

 

[jlzimmerman]

Coming back on topic - please can someone explain WHY Microsoft do not allow other browsers on WP. No one has yet posted a single reason.

Huh?

UC Browser | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)

 

[A895]

All my old Android phones freezes and lags every time and I gave up... My old GS2 and GS3 freeze all the time. This is my experience.]

You said it. They are OLD.

 

[A895]

Huh?

UC Browser | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)

I`m pretty sure UC Browser still uses the same engine as IE, WP is like iOS, there are other browsers but they aren`t necessarily different browsers. Differences are only skin deep in other words.

 

[Dantekai14]

I can open Phonearena.com without any problems here in my 920 with WP8.1. actually I access this site every day without problems

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I think it may be a problem with only 512MB RAM devices or may be worse .......Just me.

But you can't excess sites which open with pop ups.
Try link which I had given you and tell me can you able to open that?

That link work just fine on Chrome but not on IE11

 

[anony_mouse]

I`m pretty sure UC Browser still uses the same engine as IE, WP is like iOS, there are other browsers but they aren`t necessarily different browsers. Differences are only skin deep in other words.

Thanks, you beat me to it. That's exactly the point. Apologies to all for my imprecise use of terminology.

 

[chezm]

At a high level and not having used WP8.1 IE11, used IE10 along with Chrome Android and Safari/Chrome iPhone, i much prefer IE's mobile browser. I find the browser to be super responsive, fluid and the minimalist approach is nice/clean. Again, while im sort of off topic since im not using IE11 (and fixed the 1 problem i had with the browser which was the forward/back integration) i think MS have done a great job with their mobile browser experience. While on my PC i sadly prefer Chrome mainly because it actually saves ALL my needed passwords, it slows my PC's down to crawl.

 

[gsshim]

Just disappointed with IE11's browsing speed.

I have both of nexus 5 and lumia 1520. They have almost same CPU(snapdragon 800 processor) and ram(2GB) so i though they would show similar browsing speed at least.

But chrome beta running on nexus 5 is way faster than IE11 on lumia 1520.

There's huge gap between them.

And how's new swipe back in IE 11. Even if you swiped back, screen is just showing gray scaled page for 0.5 sec till you can actually browse the page which is so annoying.

It cannot be compared to swipeback of safari(iphone) or qq browser(android) at all.

And yeah, i know it's just developer preview not for general users so just hope IE 11 got better till release of WP 8.1 rtm.

 

[FearL0rd]

At a high level and not having used WP8.1 IE11, used IE10 along with Chrome Android and Safari/Chrome iPhone, i much prefer IE's mobile browser. I find the browser to be super responsive, fluid and the minimalist approach is nice/clean. Again, while im sort of off topic since im not using IE11 (and fixed the 1 problem i had with the browser which was the forward/back integration) i think MS have done a great job with their mobile browser experience. While on my PC i sadly prefer Chrome mainly because it actually saves ALL my needed passwords, it slows my PC's down to crawl.

Now, IE11 Saves all your passwords and share with all your windows 8.1 devices too. I'm loving it.
I was a big user of Firefox now I moved back to IE

 

[Bram Vanroy]

I am curious, though, what is meant by "faster". Better loading times/display times? Speaking as a webdev, I find this intriguing. There is the point of priority and asynchronous loading that differ in Chrome and IE (at least on desktop). Rendering engine differs and subsequently difference in speed are likely. However, I am curious whether some data savings methods are used.

When a data savings app is activated, the data (i.e. "a website") is compressed before being sent to the device. This decreases the data that needs to be downloaded. However - the compressed data also has to be decompressed. I do not know how this works in WP (because Data Sense has a OS-wide data-savings feature), but in old-school mobile opera it used to be the case that the browser handled this. Therefore, it is possible that certain websites seem to load slower when data savings is enabled. However, the other way around should also be possible: if the website is small, data savings may improve load times and display times, because there is less to download and only a little to decompress.

 

[chezm]

Now, IE11 Saves all your passwords and share with all your windows 8.1 devices too. I'm loving it.
I was a big user of Firefox now I moved back to IE

great to know, thanks!! All the more reason for me to get excited about moving back to WP! =)

 

[link68759]

I only got as far as page 12 on phone so forgive me if this is answered, but

The entirety of the developer preview is subject to change, and that includes IE11. When 8.1 is formally released, we will be downloading that formal release. Is it beta or not? Does it matter? Arguing semantics is just foolish. Fact of the matter is we are using a "preview" of 8.1, and it may very well see bug fixes to any given component thereof in the final release of 8.1. After 8.1 is released I doubt IE11 will receive further updates until the next OS update. So there will be a final release, and what we are using may or may not be it.

Next up- popups. Most porn sites. Really the only places where the popups will be a bother on a phone, but I get mixed results. Some open in the same tab, others in a new tab.

I haven't used Android for a while, but I remember hating all the browsers I could find as recently as mid 2013. None of them rendered text sharply, it was all fuzzy, they all handled reflow stupidly, and the UI design is usually nav controls covering the an unfortunate portion of the screen or full screen mode where you have limited nav control so you need to swap back and forth. Never a happy medium. They were stable, but I much preferred the crash happy IE on WM6 because while somewhat slow, it was just designed better. The older opera mobile 9(?) on WM6 was too slightly unstable but designed and functioned with intelligence.

IE11 on WP8.1 has a similar layout to WM6 IE, you have all functions available in minimalist nav controls, reflow was replaced with some zoom thing that works well most of the time, text is sharp, and crashes are rare. From where I'm standing, IE has offered a consistently good core experience, while the Android browsers have fancy bells and whistles but are lacking in core experience. I personally have no need for bells and whistles- IE11 gave me more than I ever wanted in a mobile browser. I just wish I could easily push pages to and from my phone, then I can die happy.

 

[anony_mouse]

Now, IE11 Saves all your passwords and share with all your windows 8.1 devices too. I'm loving it.
I was a big user of Firefox now I moved back to IE

I hope mean "I love it". The use of the present continuous "I'm loving it" sounds extremely disturbing.

 

[tgp]

The use of the present continuous "I'm loving it" sounds extremely disturbing.

Why? Don't you like McDonald's?

 

[Dantekai14]

I only got as far as page 12 on phone so forgive me if this is answered, but

The entirety of the developer preview is subject to change, and that includes IE11. When 8.1 is formally released, we will be downloading that formal release. Is it beta or not? Does it matter? Arguing semantics is just foolish. Fact of the matter is we are using a "preview" of 8.1, and it may very well see bug fixes to any given component thereof in the final release of 8.1. After 8.1 is released I doubt IE11 will receive further updates until the next OS update. So there will be a final release, and what we are using may or may not be it.

Next up- popups. Most porn sites. Really the only places where the popups will be a bother on a phone, but I get mixed results. Some open in the same tab, others in a new tab.

I haven't used Android for a while, but I remember hating all the browsers I could find as recently as mid 2013. None of them rendered text sharply, it was all fuzzy, they all handled reflow stupidly, and the UI design is usually nav controls covering the an unfortunate portion of the screen or full screen mode where you have limited nav control so you need to swap back and forth. Never a happy medium. They were stable, but I much preferred the crash happy IE on WM6 because while somewhat slow, it was just designed better. The older opera mobile 9(?) on WM6 was too slightly unstable but designed and functioned with intelligence.

IE11 on WP8.1 has a similar layout to WM6 IE, you have all functions available in minimalist nav controls, reflow was replaced with some zoom thing that works well most of the time, text is sharp, and crashes are rare. From where I'm standing, IE has offered a consistently good core experience, while the Android browsers have fancy bells and whistles but are lacking in core experience. I personally have no need for bells and whistles- IE11 gave me more than I ever wanted in a mobile browser. I just wish I could easily push pages to and from my phone, then I can die happy.

hahahaha
Porn sites LOL!

Some users can't think better.
Their are lots of sites which have pop ups and aren't porn.
Try the non porn site link which I had given you

Even if those are porn site, what is the matter? Is their some kind of unknown restriction watching porn on WP?
If it's a website it should be work on IE.

But even with all those improvements, IE isn't close to Chrome on Android( performance wise.)

 

[anony_mouse]

Why? Don't you like McDonald's?

Well, no, of course I don't like McDonalds. Also, the phrase "I'm loving it" makes me think of Justin Timberlake and a stale Big Mac in a tryst straight from hell.

 

[MikeSo]

The most problematic aspect of IE11 for me so far is that some sites simply do not work. At all. I've mentioned before the Citi credit card site which will not get past the login page (keeps redirecting and ends up back on it when trying to log in).

I also tried a few other sites that required logins, and most worked except Match.com® | The Leading Online Dating Site for Singles & Personals. Selecting the matchMobile site, going to http://touch.match.com, that site is even worse - it doesn't load, it shows a dialog popup that asks me to dowload an app - but not the match.com app, a BROWSER app - UC Browser or some Nokia app that I don't remember right now what it was). So it's as far as I can impossible to even use these sites on WP8.1.

This is a problem that will be much more widespread I am sure as people use it, so it will require fixes.

 

[link68759]

hahahaha
Porn sites LOL!

Some users can't think better.
Their are lots of sites which have pop ups and aren't porn.
Try the non porn site link which I had given you

Even if those are porn site, what is the matter? Is their some kind of unknown restriction watching porn on WP?
If it's a website it should be work on IE.

But even with all those improvements, IE isn't close to Chrome on Android( performance wise.)

I would like to point out that this thread has turned into a proper debate _despite_ you. Please try to follow in professional discourse...

What I said was "Really the only places where the popups will be a bother on a phone". Yes, other sites have popups- however of all the sites that have popups, the only ones I would want to access from phone are the pornographic ones. Any other site with popups are usually TV streaming, file sharing, or similarly PC centric activities- neither of which one would normally have reason to go to on a phone (particularly one without adobe flash), edge cases notwithstanding.

I don't know by what metric you're judging performance, but IE11 and the varying android browsers I've tried are all responsive to the touch and generally the network is the limiting factor, not the rendering engine, so the performance of browsers as far as the end user can tell are on equal footing. One browser might score slightly higher on some javascript test than another browser, but then the other performs better in HTML5... but these are hardly applicable to real world use.

 

[Dantekai14]

I would like to point out that this thread has turned into a proper debate _despite_ you. Please try to follow in professional discourse...

What I said was "Really the only places where the popups will be a bother on a phone". Yes, other sites have popups- however of all the sites that have popups, the only ones I would want to access from phone are the pornographic ones. Any other site with popups are usually TV streaming, file sharing, or similarly PC centric activities- neither of which one would normally have reason to go to on a phone (particularly one without adobe flash), edge cases notwithstanding.

I don't know by what metric you're judging performance, but IE11 and the varying android browsers I've tried are all responsive to the touch and generally the network is the limiting factor, not the rendering engine, so the performance of browsers as far as the end user can tell are on equal footing. One browser might score slightly higher on some javascript test than another browser, but then the other performs better in HTML5... but these are hardly applicable to real world use.

Are you able to open the site which I have given you?
And
Try that in Chrome too.

Then tell how that go in IE 11 ?

End user doesn't care html5,javascipt.
It is as simple as that it works on chrome but not in IE. This is how I judge.

If you know any site that work on IE but not on chrome then share here.