01-23-2011 10:51 AM
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  1. selfcreation's Avatar
    The Focus is made of plastic but feels very solid
    It reminds me a lot of the ATT Pure, an HTC device. Samsung's been making solid phones for a while, but it wasn't until their Galaxy S phones, particularly the Captivate, that I really thought about owning one.

    the Omnia 2 i8000 GT was also a VERY good WM phone right up there with the HTC HD

    Samsung I think is probly one of the nest Electronic company int he world , they are in the top 10 Top companies in the world , beating out Apple, Nokia, HTC and Evan companies like Pepsi ( $$ WISE )

    Ive had 6 HTC phones , and my last 3 phones have been Samsung , (aside from my 3 dayz with the surround ) and honestly i think Samsung is my new FAV cell phone manufacture

    Focus beating out ALL wp7 right now in sells ( 43% has been the focus ) , turns out allot of us did the right choice ;) lol
    12-30-2010 12:01 PM
  2. falconeight#IM's Avatar
    The only difference is that htc uses rubber feeling paint and samsung uses gloss. It's still mostly plastic and left over nexus one pieces of metal.
    12-30-2010 02:57 PM
  3. spitothec's Avatar
    You realize the iPhone and the Focus use the same gorilla glass to cover the screen, right?
    12-30-2010 03:27 PM
  4. selfcreation's Avatar
    You realize the iPhone and the Focus use the same gorilla glass to cover the screen, right?
    are you sure! guy i work with droped his iphone 4 the first day he had it and it EXPLODED , HAHAHAHA man i got a good laught out of it , he sure dint doh , LMAO!!!

    ive droped my Samsung countles times and it never broke , but the fac that the AMOLED is a ORGANIC technologie makes it mroe resistant to breaks. i think . ether way

    I knopw stress test wise the iphone would losse to almost any phone out there , its like having a basketball made of glass and trying to drible , HAHAHA
    12-30-2010 04:46 PM
  5. spitothec's Avatar
    Yes, I'm sure it's the same glass. The screen on your Focus is in no way more durable than an iPhone's screen in any way.
    12-30-2010 05:39 PM
  6. selfcreation's Avatar
    Yes, I'm sure it's the same glass. The screen on your Focus is in no way more durable than an iPhone's screen in any way.
    what are you kiding me , OF COURSE its mroe durable , man ,

    U have any idea how dilicate the iphone 4 is???? ok it uses the gorila glass but it end there .

    if u take a look at the Omnia 2 for example who DOES NOT use gorila glass , can take a BEATING from a hammer!! and its been done!! by me!! to prove a point to a friend LMAO!! ( omnia 2 uses AMOLED )

    so the iphone has a gorila glass scrach resistance thats it .

    if the iphone is soo resistance , then why does droping it once cause it to break like a glass globe. and why can my Focus be droped 50 times on a dayly bassis with out breaking once ?? because the AMOLED srceen help make the phone more resistance to BREAKING ( like droping ont he ground )
    the gorila glass is just a backup protection to the phone .

    if u dont baleave me , drop ur focus , then go spend 800$ on a iphone drop it fromt he same hight and see what happends . LOL .
    12-30-2010 05:53 PM
  7. ninjaap's Avatar
    I think it's because the Focus and most other phones have their screens (gorilla or not) recessed inside a bezel. Where as iPhone's extends all the way out (I think. I've never actually seen an iPhone 4 in real life), therefore not giving much protection.
    12-30-2010 05:57 PM
  8. selfcreation's Avatar
    I think it's because the Focus and most other phones have their screens (gorilla or not) recessed inside a bezel. Where as iPhone's extends all the way out (I think. I've never actually seen an iPhone 4 in real life), therefore not giving much protection.
    they do, im sure thats a reason

    also , if u have ur iphone in ur pocket lean on the corner of a table and ur glass hits the corner , it will break like most touch screens apose the AMOLED screen , they whont unless u way 400LB i think ull break anything , ;)
    12-30-2010 06:21 PM
  9. spitothec's Avatar
    they do, im sure thats a reason

    also , if u have ur iphone in ur pocket lean on the corner of a table and ur glass hits the corner , it will break like most touch screens apose the AMOLED screen , they whont unless u way 400LB i think ull break anything , ;)
    I'm not sure what part is so hard for you to understand, but they use the same exact materials from the same manufacturers which were probably mined out of the same caves for the screens in both phones.
    12-31-2010 11:49 AM
  10. falconeight#IM's Avatar
    I'm not sure what part is so hard for you to understand, but they use the same exact materials from the same manufacturers which were probably mined out of the same caves for the screens in both phones.
    Impossible to know.
    12-31-2010 02:16 PM
  11. spitothec's Avatar
    Impossible to know.
    It's not impossible to know. Samsung and Apple source the same Gorilla Glass (I think it's called chemcon or something) from the same company, Corning Inc. It's been stated by both Apple, Samsung, and Corning Inc multiple times. Neither screen is in any way more durable than the other, and the technology used to display the LCD pixels has absolutely zero effect on the durability of the glass. The only thing that's impossible to know is why some people can't grasp this.

    edit: and I don't have time to search for it, but I'm pretty sure THIS website had a blog post about this exact topic a while ago, with Samsung saying that they did source the same glass used in iPhone 4's for their Focus line.. and I'm also pretty sure they use the same glass in every Android Galaxy S phone Samsung makes.
    12-31-2010 02:40 PM
  12. thebizz's Avatar
    The droid was the first big hit to use it. The screens are both durable but with less protection from the case the iPhone may seem less durable
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    I've had the case of my droid bend battery and all glass didn't crack though the lcd panel did
    12-31-2010 03:41 PM
  13. falconeight#IM's Avatar
    It's not impossible to know. Samsung and Apple source the same Gorilla Glass (I think it's called chemcon or something) from the same company, Corning Inc. It's been stated by both Apple, Samsung, and Corning Inc multiple times. Neither screen is in any way more durable than the other, and the technology used to display the LCD pixels has absolutely zero effect on the durability of the glass. The only thing that's impossible to know is why some people can't grasp this.

    edit: and I don't have time to search for it, but I'm pretty sure THIS website had a blog post about this exact topic a while ago, with Samsung saying that they did source the same glass used in iPhone 4's for their Focus line.. and I'm also pretty sure they use the same glass in every Android Galaxy S phone Samsung makes.
    The same company made the bullet proof glass for our vehicles and the Iraqis. Ours was stronger.
    12-31-2010 04:13 PM
  14. selfcreation's Avatar
    It's not impossible to know. Samsung and Apple source the same Gorilla Glass (I think it's called chemcon or something) from the same company, Corning Inc. It's been stated by both Apple, Samsung, and Corning Inc multiple times. Neither screen is in any way more durable than the other, and the technology used to display the LCD pixels has absolutely zero effect on the durability of the glass. The only thing that's impossible to know is why some people can't grasp this.

    edit: and I don't have time to search for it, but I'm pretty sure THIS website had a blog post about this exact topic a while ago, with Samsung saying that they did source the same glass used in iPhone 4's for their Focus line.. and I'm also pretty sure they use the same glass in every Android Galaxy S phone Samsung makes.


    Gorilla glass has nothing to do with the fact the AMOLED screen is stronger , the glass it self might not be stronger but the SCREEN IS!! , hope u can undestand that cause i lsot hope with you.
    the gorrila glass is a glass , its not a screen! BIG DIFFRENTS glass, screen , glass screen , say it with me.

    AMOLED is stronger cause it uses ORGANIC materials,

    S super
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    A, active
    M matrix
    O ORGANIC (key word)
    L light
    E Emitting
    D Diode

    you can put garial glass but the Inside of the screen , the little LED lights , on the AMOLED are organic MEANING!!!!!

    and this is a fact: the AMOLED screen will never ROOT OUT ( meaning when u break a touch screen phone u see it do a ROOT formation because the liquid spreads out and damg the screen ) AMOLED does not have that problem meaning u can almost smack it as hard u can with your fist and it will NOT break!! it might get a little slower but it whont break unless you put a hammer to it in witch case your just gona break the phone and not just the screen.

    i dont know what YOU don’t understand between Gorilla LCD and Gorilla AMOLED , so before you talk trash thinking you know more , i get trainings on this kinda of stuff on daily basses from the companies , like HTC ,BB, Samsung and apple reps.

    PS! IM MAKING A VIDEO TO SHOW YOU!!! ok???? you gona see me BEET THE LIVING ****!! out of my Omnia 2 AMOLED , and then your gona watch me pinch a regulard touch phone AND WATCH IT EXPLODE , your gona see the diffrents. and the omnia 2 is NOT evan Gorila glass its regular BS!!!! on tp if it!!
    Last edited by Se1fcr3ation; 01-04-2011 at 07:54 PM.
    01-04-2011 07:27 PM
  15. spitothec's Avatar
    PM me when the video's up.
    01-04-2011 09:09 PM
  16. ninjaap's Avatar
    This should be good...
    01-04-2011 09:38 PM
  17. spitothec's Avatar
    I'm not gonna lie, I just want to hear the commentary.
    01-04-2011 09:47 PM
  18. ninjaap's Avatar
    I just want to see a phone explode.
    01-04-2011 09:49 PM
  19. L3vi's Avatar
    I just want to see a phone explode.
    lol, me too.

    Let me just clear this up for a sec. It's really quite simple, yes the iPhone 4 screen is more prone to cracking, but that's just because the glass is positioned in a way that does not minimize the shock to well. Dropping the phone has high chance of causing the glass to absorb a lot of stress. Other screens are more embedded, and shielded from the impact, thus you have a screen less prone to cracking.

    I guess you could say that it's a design flaw on Apple's part, but it does make the device look quite nice. If your really worried about breaking your screen, get a gel case, it will help alleviate the compressive stress.

    As for what selfrecreation was talking about, the real screens themselves, he is right AMOLED screens are more "durable" but it's a different kind of durable and has to do with some advanced chemistry and physics that even I don't want to get started on, we will be here all night, lolz.
    selfcreation likes this.
    01-05-2011 02:22 AM
  20. action_efn_jackson's Avatar
    The AMOLED durability has to do with it being LED where as each LED is its own separate working piece. You damage one and will that 1 itty bitty tiny part is damaged. If a LCD is damaged in most cases your pretty much pucked since its liquid and it all has to work together.
    off topic, I sure hope ole dude speaks better then he types. I like reading his posts. It's kinda fun trying to figure out WTF he is saying sometimes. :D I just figured out what w/e meant yesterday! LOL
    01-05-2011 11:24 AM
  21. selfcreation's Avatar
    The AMOLED durability has to do with it being LED where as each LED is its own separate working piece. You damage one and will that 1 itty bitty tiny part is damaged. If a LCD is damaged in most cases your pretty much pucked since its liquid and it all has to work together.
    off topic, I sure hope ole dude speaks better then he types. I like reading his posts. It's kinda fun trying to figure out WTF he is saying sometimes. :D I just figured out what w/e meant yesterday! LOL
    lol , thats basicly it.

    ole dude? lol
    01-05-2011 11:38 AM
  22. spitothec's Avatar
    The iPhone4 is also LED lit which would negate everything that selfcreation is arguing. In fact almost all modern capacative touchscreen smartphones are LED backlit.. so what you're saying is I'm still right, and there's still nothing that makes a Focus screen more durable than any other LED backlit, Gorilla Glass covered screen? :( Awe man, I was hoping to learn something.

    Where's that video? :D
    01-05-2011 12:54 PM
  23. falconeight#IM's Avatar
    The iPhone4 is also LED lit which would negate everything that selfcreation is arguing. In fact almost all modern capacative touchscreen smartphones are LED backlit.. so what you're saying is I'm still right, and there's still nothing that makes a Focus screen more durable than any other LED backlit, Gorilla Glass covered screen? :( Awe man, I was hoping to learn something.

    Where's that video? :D

    I iphone 4 glass is mounted on top of the phone in the open. That makes a big difference. If you drop it you hit glass.
    01-05-2011 01:36 PM
  24. selfcreation's Avatar
    The iPhone4 is also LED lit which would negate everything that selfcreation is arguing. In fact almost all modern capacative touchscreen smartphones are LED backlit.. so what you're saying is I'm still right, and there's still nothing that makes a Focus screen more durable than any other LED backlit, Gorilla Glass covered screen? :( Awe man, I was hoping to learn something.

    Where's that video? :D

    no it doesn’t make you right!

    AMOLED and LED = 2 completely different technologies. notice the extra 3 letters , lol , the different is not the actual LED or the GLASS , the different is the way the AMOLED are build and the way they work , Like L3vis said , its all about the physical and chemicals Build of the technologies that makes it more durable. Again , this has nothing to do with the actual glass.!!!

    and the fact that the Iphone screen goes ALL THE WAY to the edge make it more venerable to breaking appose to other touch phones where the glass is covered on the Edges.


    i work full time , so the vid should be coming soon.
    01-05-2011 03:30 PM
  25. spitothec's Avatar
    Please link me to this test of the durability of one LED display compared to another when encased by Gorilla Glass. I'd like to read up on it.
    01-05-2011 03:35 PM
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