Does the Lumia look like a flagship device??

[X0LARIUM]

Now DON'T get me wrong...I'm asking as the first impressions sink in. It was all a hush-hush event, don't you think so??

Yes, they showcased a lot of things...but, over all, the does the device "have what it takes" to dethrone the competition. Is it truely "flagship" as they are saying?

Honest, unsarcastic and unbiased words will surely be apprecited.

I like it, but somewhere, the sheen of the Lumia 800/900 is missing. A little, you know.

 

[dkp23]

Is it a flagship? Sure, it is a flagship.

Will they compete with the competition? Sure, they can compete, but they will not move the market as many wp owners hope. It surely isn't happening this year or next year and perhaps beyond.

As much as people hold on to the notion that "you do not need high end specs to have a wp work great", realistically, phones are a spec war, you need the highest end specs to compete. The more powerful a phone, the more people will think it will do more and work faster. Whether that is the case or not, doesn't matter, what matters is what is on paper. Secondly, apps, app marketplace needs to be on par in terms of the must have apps with other platforms, they are not there yet and there is no certainty they will get there this year or next. I've seen announcements like chase, paypal, angry birds, but haven't see anything yet.

The lumia 920 coming out with standard specs at this point, are competing with standards that have been around for a year or so now. If they want to create a wave of excitement, they need to beat the specs, it doesnt have to be a lot, but at least match and beat.

I'd say, market share will be gained, but not at a fast rate, will be a distant 3rd for at least a year IMO.

 

[X0LARIUM]

Is it a flagship? Sure, it is a flagship.

Will they compete with the competition? Sure, they can compete, but they will not move the market as many wp owners hope. It surely isn't happening this year or next year and perhaps beyond.

As much as people hold on to the notion that "you do not need high end specs to have a wp work great", realistically, phones are a spec war, you need the highest end specs to compete. The more powerful a phone, the more people will think it will do more and work faster. Whether that is the case or not, doesn't matter, what matters is what is on paper. Secondly, apps, app marketplace needs to be on par in terms of the must have apps with other platforms, they are not there yet and there is no certainty they will get there this year or next. I've seen announcements like chase, paypal, angry birds, but haven't see anything yet.

The lumia 920 coming out with standard specs at this point, are competing with standards that have been around for a year or so now. If they want to create a wave of excitement, they need to beat the specs, it doesnt have to be a lot, but at least match and beat.

I'd say, market share will be gained, but not at a fast rate, will be a distant 3rd for at least a year IMO.

awesome reply. Thanks man. Much appreciated.

 

[cgk]

I think the 920 will be my next phone but I don't think it's particularly competitive - when a consumer walks into a store, I think they will look over and see that lumia thing that decided not to buy last year running that windows thingy they were not interested in.

I think WP8 will end up as a distant third like DKP23 will end up as a distant third and that's only because RIM is so dysfunctional that they will fail to get BB10 off the ground.

 

[theefman]

My question is, where are the equivalent threads for the Samsung Ativ? Why arent the same questions being asked about that device?

 

[threed61]

Is it a flagship? Sure, it is a flagship.

Will they compete with the competition? Sure, they can compete, but they will not move the market as many wp owners hope. It surely isn't happening this year or next year and perhaps beyond.

As much as people hold on to the notion that "you do not need high end specs to have a wp work great", realistically, phones are a spec war, you need the highest end specs to compete. The more powerful a phone, the more people will think it will do more and work faster. Whether that is the case or not, doesn't matter, what matters is what is on paper. Secondly, apps, app marketplace needs to be on par in terms of the must have apps with other platforms, they are not there yet and there is no certainty they will get there this year or next. I've seen announcements like chase, paypal, angry birds, but haven't see anything yet.

The lumia 920 coming out with standard specs at this point, are competing with standards that have been around for a year or so now. If they want to create a wave of excitement, they need to beat the specs, it doesnt have to be a lot, but at least match and beat.

I'd say, market share will be gained, but not at a fast rate, will be a distant 3rd for at least a year IMO.

Good analysis. The specs finally match the competition, and if wp8 turns out to be as fast as some believe it will be, speed and smooth will attract a lot of attention. I think it is a flagship device.

 

[X0LARIUM]

Good analysis. The specs finally match the competition, and if wp8 turns out to be as fast as some believe it will be, speed and smooth will attract a lot of attention. I think it is a flagship device.

Er...I don't think he meant that. In fact the opposite. Specs are old.

Sent from my DROID RaZr.

 

[cgk]

My question is, where are the equivalent threads for the Samsung Ativ? Why arent the same questions being asked about that device?

Doesn't the lack of threads answer that question for you?

 

[threed61]

Er...I don't think he meant that. In fact the opposite. Specs are old.

Sent from my DROID RaZr.

ER, I got what he meant. In fact the specs match the SG3, One X and other top phones, they are not old.

 

[theefman]

Doesn't the lack of threads answer that question for you?

Doesnt give the reason why, no. It's been a Nokia bash-fest for the past few days with all the leaks we've had.

And lets compare to the newest android flagship, which doesnt even come with the latest version that OS: http://gizmodo.com/5940661/motorola-droid-razr-hd-a-full+screen-beauty-in-a-kevlar-coat-updating. So which one looks more like a flagship?

 

[tk-093]

Sure it's a flagship phone. I'm rocking the current Android flagship (GS3) and its a pretty boring design and if that's a flagship, so is the 920. (The Ativ is too!)

 

[Reflexx]

The marketing will determine if it's a flagship device or not.

 

[socialcarpet]

If they had gone with the classier matte finish of the black and blue 900, I'd be a lot more likely to say yes. Glossy plastic looks like crap though and is almost an automatic dealbreaker all by itself for me.

If I want glossy plastic junk, Samsung has mountains of it. I expect better from Nokia. I hope they go back to the matte finish by the time I'm ready for my next phone. :dry

 

[Reflexx]

Apparently The Verge says it's definitely a flagship device.
Nokia Lumia 920 hands-on preview, pictures and video | The Verge

Joshua Topolsky even tweeted the following:

Nokia's Lumia 920 announced. I've played with it. It might be the nicest phone hardware I've held​

 

[X0LARIUM]

If they had gone with the classier matte finish of the black and blue 900, I'd be a lot more likely to say yes. Glossy plastic looks like crap though and is almost an automatic dealbreaker all by itself for me.

If I want glossy plastic junk, Samsung has mountains of it. I expect better from Nokia. I hope they go back to the matte finish by the time I'm ready for my next phone. :dry

Lol!!
Correct correct...I too felt so. This might,like just one tiny bit might, push me towards Samsung...just might.

I think HTC IS my last resort now..


Sent from my DROID RaZr.

 

[PG2G]

The lumia 920 coming out with standard specs at this point, are competing with standards that have been around for a year or so now. If they want to create a wave of excitement, they need to beat the specs, it doesnt have to be a lot, but at least match and beat.

Let's not kid ourselves. The Lumia 920 has specs that will match HTC and Samsung (it is the EXACT same SoC as their US-spec) until the Galaxy S IV and next gen HTC devices hit next spring. It has a camera that is best in class, and has a screen with a best in class resolution.

 

[X0LARIUM]

Apparently The Verge says it's definitely a flagship device.
Nokia Lumia 920 hands-on preview, pictures and video | The Verge

Joshua Topolsky even tweeted the following:

Nokia's Lumia 920 announced. I've played with it. It might be the nicest phone hardware I've held​

well the verge also says this:

Lumia 920 PureView trailer was filmed with a different camera, Nokia apologizes for the confusion -- Engadget

and believe me, its a MAJOR screw up...

 

[Reflexx]

well the verge also says this:

Lumia 920 PureView trailer was filmed with a different camera, Nokia apologizes for the confusion -- Engadget

and believe me, its a MAJOR screw up...

And what does that have to do with it being a flagship phone?

 

[X0LARIUM]

And what does that have to do with it being a flagship phone?

If Verge calls it a flagship phone on one hand, they are also quick to point out where it failed. That's all..

 

[Reflexx]

If Verge calls it a flagship phone on one hand, they are also quick to point out where it failed. That's all..

The marketing department failed.

Nothing to do with the device itself, which they tried and loved.