It will be interesting to see of all of the iPhone 5 issues lead to people switching

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If marketshare/adoption of WP rises more devs will be making apps, Apple/Android have a big lead with now 700.000 apps aprox, wich is nice but to be honest i have an S3 i think 690.000 are really useless/doubles if not more, what WP needs is known apps like Instagram, a dedicated Youtube app (not the site) etc., and big name game developpers like Gameloft, EA, GLU etc. This way experience will improve and more iOS/Andoid users could jump ship easily. As it is now my sister is using my Lumia 800 and always asks me for an app that her gf has on iphone but does not exist on WP many users encounter this.

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Our favorite OS needs serious pushes into the business world and a HUGE turnover from other OS's to do it sooner. Not impossible, but a hard road to go.

I could see this start happening once the WP8 devices are released. They will offer more business features.

RIM's quarterly report is coming this Thursday 27 September. It will be ugly, especially since RIM will not have any new devices until next year.

Those BlackBerry users would be a great target for WP8.
 

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I could see this start happening once the WP8 devices are released. They will offer more business features.

RIM's quarterly report is coming this Thursday 27 September. It will be ugly, especially since RIM will not have any new devices until next year.

Those BlackBerry users would be a great target for WP8.
Here's a thought. If they (MS) won't give a ship date, why don't they at least release an official list of what's in and what's out. IT managers can't just cobble up a purchase order at the drop of a hat. The bean counters want cold hard facts before they release funds not "well I think this will be great for us". What part of our corporate infrastructure will this device support? What kind of security are we looking at? Will we need to invest in other programs or equipment to integrate our desktop environment?
For the average consumer, these are meaningless questions. For the enterprise crowd, these are the top priorities.
 

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I was reading a thread on iOS bugs that stretched 11 pages and counting. This is what I don't understand: you have a perfect system. One hardware vendor & one software vendor living under one roof, working side by side since the beginning and the released product is way buggier than it should be. That's weird.

One of the posters stated that instead of iOS6 they should have called it "iOSsucks".

I laughed.
 

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I suggest that everyone currently using: iOS, Android, BB, Symbian, WebOS, Bada, etc. who can't live without certain apps they have now, just stay put, and wait for WP to catch up. As it is a situation that's outside of your control, there is nothing you can do about it. And you will have a lot less stress in your life.

In the meantime, WP can pick up all of the "new" Smartphone users around the World with their beautifully different experience.

Check back often though, cause its gonna happen. Just don't know when.

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RIM has come out and basically said that they expect zero growth for the upcoming quarter. Yikes.



This is true. I was one.

Even if RIM has increase in user base, they probably still will lose ARPU. The user base is increasing in developing nations, but the money made from those users will not be enough to offset the losses in North America and Europe.

I was a BlackBerry user before I switched to Windows Phone. I used BlackBerry for 3 years; prior to BlackBerry, I used Symbian.
 

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I suggest that everyone currently using: iOS, Android, BB, Symbian, WebOS, Bada, etc. who can't live without certain apps they have now, just stay put, and wait for WP to catch up. As it is a situation that's outside of your control, there is nothing you can do about it. And you will have a lot less stress in your life.

In the meantime, WP can pick up all of the "new" Smartphone users around the World with their beautifully different experience.

Check back often though, cause its gonna happen. Just don't know when.

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I have a lot more apps for my L900 than I had for the BlackBerrys.

BlackBerry users are just as attractive targets for WP as new smartphone users.
 

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But! But! Apple has new earbuds that are no longer round! Yet another revolutionary move by Apple. Oh, wait, I have a $5 pair of no name black earbuds that aren't round either and I've had them for almost a year. But then again, they're not shiny white and cost $30. :p
 

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apple probably pushed their release date up to make sure they beat a WP8 launch. With no WP8 available for atleast another 1and1/2 months there is nothing for a new 5 owner to switch to. and as far as the quality issues, if you have a dissatisfied workforce and don't take care of them they won't care how they handle ,assemble and pack the product
I doubt Apple looked WindowsPhone 8 as a "rival" but they pushed iOS 6 and iPhone 5 to the market to give it more time in stores, this way they can get more out of marketing efforts.

However I bet quite many are dissapointed in iOS 6, actually one of my co-workers updated his iPhone 4 into iOS6 and said that if this is the update, im going to switch into another platform.

I told him that he should look for Windows Phone 8 devices as well as Android devices (bashed a little bit iPhone at the same time... Well actually just told him the truth and hes wallet agrees with me... :D)

The real key for Windows Phone 8 success will not be the failure of iPhone 5. It is to have really good products for Windows Phone 8 and to make it noticeable. Difference too Android and iOS: Why would I switch to WP8 from iOS/Android? This is a question that Microsoft would need to know the answer.

The OEM:s Nokia and HTC in the frontline should ask themselves what can we do better than Apple and Samsung? Can we compete with price or can we make something totally unique what no other can make. Something that really stands out and helps in the everyday situations.

But to think like "Ok Apple messed up, now everyone is going for WP8" its just silly and it does not work like that. First of all Apple actually makes fine products, they are not spec maniacs but they work and that is a fact. Windows Phone needs to work better and that is the way for victory and Windows Phone needs to understand the importance of marketing, not just Nokia but Microsoft, HTC, Nokia and the carriers all together working as a team.

The problems Apple has right now with iPhone 5 and iOS 6 does create a situation where Apples brand in peoples mind can shatter and it will lead to some people switching from iOS to another platform but that alone is not enough for Windows Phone.
 

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I doubt Apple looked WindowsPhone 8 as a "rival" but they pushed iOS 6 and iPhone 5 to the market to give it more time in stores, this way they can get more out of marketing efforts.

However I bet quite many are dissapointed in iOS 6, actually one of my co-workers updated his iPhone 4 into iOS6 and said that if this is the update, im going to switch into another platform.

I told him that he should look for Windows Phone 8 devices as well as Android devices (bashed a little bit iPhone at the same time... Well actually just told him the truth and hes wallet agrees with me... :D)

The real key for Windows Phone 8 success will not be the failure of iPhone 5. It is to have really good products for Windows Phone 8 and to make it noticeable. Difference too Android and iOS: Why would I switch to WP8 from iOS/Android? This is a question that Microsoft would need to know the answer.

The OEM:s Nokia and HTC in the frontline should ask themselves what can we do better than Apple and Samsung? Can we compete with price or can we make something totally unique what no other can make. Something that really stands out and helps in the everyday situations.

But to think like "Ok Apple messed up, now everyone is going for WP8" its just silly and it does not work like that. First of all Apple actually makes fine products, they are not spec maniacs but they work and that is a fact. Windows Phone needs to work better and that is the way for victory and Windows Phone needs to understand the importance of marketing, not just Nokia but Microsoft, HTC, Nokia and the carriers all together working as a team.

The problems Apple has right now with iPhone 5 and iOS 6 does create a situation where Apples brand in peoples mind can shatter and it will lead to some people switching from iOS to another platform but that alone is not enough for Windows Phone.

Good point. I think MS will provide a reason for that. but what platform is he going to to though?
 

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I like both iOS and WP7, and have switched back and forth pretty often since WP7 was released. Despite the enormous investment I've made in media and apps through iTunes, I would rather buy a Lumia 920 this time around and stick with WP8 as my daily mobile OS for two reasons:

(1) I am more impressed with the 920 hardware than the iPhone 5.
(2) It has become obvious that Apple will never add features to iOS that power smartphone users want and need.

My coworkers -- all in healthcare IT -- mostly have iPhones. All of them are considering switching to either Android or WP8, and I've convinced the sole BB holdout to definitely switch to WP8. Change is coming because Apple is finally being challenged effectively in both hardware and software by Samsung, HTC, Nokia, Google and Microsoft. It's really as simple as that.
 
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I'm a potential switcher. I'm heavily invested in iTunes media including lots of tv shows, and am trying to figure out to what extent they are DRM protected and whether or not they'll easily sync to a Lumia 900, or whether I'll have to look at somehow stripping the DRM.

I've toyed with the idea of trying the Lumia 900 for awhile now, and the iPhone 5 release has me just about ready to do it. I'd like to wait for the 920, but I have a business number that I need to port to cell immediately (from a VOIP service that just isn't reliable enough to depend on any more.)

My big thing is signal strength and noise cancellation. From what I've read, the Lumia 900 may surpass my iPhone 4S in signal strength, and should match it in noise cancellation. The iPhone 5's three microphone setup does intrigue me, but some folks have said they don't notice any improvement to noise cancellation.

For $50 I may go ahead and grab the Lumia 900 now, and if I like it I can either pay full price for the 920 or use a discount from another line in our plan to bring the price down.

It's a bit hard to make the plunge though--we use Apple products exclusively, and though I used to develop software for Windows for a living, I haven't missed it a bit since I switched in 2008. I don't really envision getting into Windows again, or Zune for media, but the WP platform looks like it might be nice if I can make it co-exist with our Apple setup.
 

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I'm a potential switcher. I'm heavily invested in iTunes media including lots of tv shows, and am trying to figure out to what extent they are DRM protected and whether or not they'll easily sync to a Lumia 900, or whether I'll have to look at somehow stripping the DRM.

I've toyed with the idea of trying the Lumia 900 for awhile now, and the iPhone 5 release has me just about ready to do it. I'd like to wait for the 920, but I have a business number that I need to port to cell immediately (from a VOIP service that just isn't reliable enough to depend on any more.)

My big thing is signal strength and noise cancellation. From what I've read, the Lumia 900 may surpass my iPhone 4S in signal strength, and should match it in noise cancellation. The iPhone 5's three microphone setup does intrigue me, but some folks have said they don't notice any improvement to noise cancellation.

For $50 I may go ahead and grab the Lumia 900 now, and if I like it I can either pay full price for the 920 or use a discount from another line in our plan to bring the price down.

It's a bit hard to make the plunge though--we use Apple products exclusively, and though I used to develop software for Windows for a living, I haven't missed it a bit since I switched in 2008. I don't really envision getting into Windows again, or Zune for media, but the WP platform looks like it might be nice if I can make it co-exist with our Apple setup.

Don't believe the 'anti-windows' hype. Windows got a bad rep with Vista being terrible, but since then they've been creating awesome products. Win7 is excellent and Windows phone is a fast, fluid extremely stable OS. WP8 will be no different.

You'll find with Apple (which is why I can't stand their products) they will make it as difficult as possible for you to use music of video files that you've downloaded off iTunes on another platform. So you may not even have a choice.

It's all in line with the typical Apple way of thinking, they make you use their products, pay for their adapters, use their software, and you have to pay through the nose for everything. They want to lock you down and make it as hard as possible to switch to anything else.

I prefer to have choices & options, decide what is best for myself instead of having Apple do it for me. That is why I avoid anything to do with Apple. Good luck with your transfer, I believe it's a good decisions as a former iPhone user.
 

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Leaver, I've had very few issues with syncing iTunes media to my WP. I even use a Mac. The Windows Phone Connector makes it pretty easy to select whatever you want, even iTunes playlists. You do not have to convert your music to non-Apple formats. DRM is an issue, though. (I use my iPad for watching video, not my phone, so that's my workaround.)


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