News Discussion in Forums

[Dave Blake]

Sounds like a win win to me everybody profits. Like I said before the only thing I don't like is I didn't think of it first...lol

 

[James Falconer]

sounds like a win win to me everybody profits. Like i said before the only thing i don't like is i didn't think of it first...lol

Think Harder!!! lol

 

[James Falconer]

Seriously though, any suggestions, ideas or strategies to make our forums better... send 'em my way.

 

[Muessig]

Okay I like the idea, I think it will help forum only people interact with the front page more and vice versa. I wonder if it will get a tonne of action or none at all, I don't really see a middle ground. It will either be really popular or dribble along in obscurity.

I wonder if we could make the auto generated threads be exempt from being listed on the unanswered threads list. Id personally like to see clearly when some new members need help rather than digging through article threads to find people with problems.

 

[stmav]

So you have a link to an article on the news and not the article itself. People go to the link and they are going to come back to the forum to comment. Do you really think people are going to post more with an extra step or two involved? They want things simpler. Early returns of the imore forum shows they are staying in the blogs. I'm not seeing this win win. More like a hollow metric in meetings. We have a new forum. Are we getting more traffic? No, but we have a new forum. And we have two types of comments.

It's not hurting anything of course. And I do hope it works out and will do whatever needs to be done to help it. But it looks like the emperor has no clothes on this one.

 

[James Falconer]

Okay I like the idea, I think it will help forum only people interact with the front page more and vice versa. I wonder if it will get a tonne of action or none at all, I don't really see a middle ground. It will either be really popular or dribble along in obscurity.

I wonder if we could make the auto generated threads be exempt from being listed on the unanswered threads list. Id personally like to see clearly when some new members need help rather than digging through article threads to find people with problems.

That's something I'm waiting on tech for... removing that forum from showing results in the unanswered list... once that's done on iMore we can go ahead and install across the network!

 

[James Falconer]

So you have a link to an article on the news and not the article itself. People go to the link and they are going to come back to the forum to comment. Do you really think people are going to post more with an extra step or two involved? They want things simpler. Early returns of the imore forum shows they are staying in the blogs. I'm not seeing this win win. More like a hollow metric in meetings. We have a new forum. Are we getting more traffic? No, but we have a new forum. And we have two types of comments.

It's not hurting anything of course. And I do hope it works out and will do whatever needs to be done to help it. But it looks like the emperor has no clothes on this one.

People are using the forum. Traffic is up on iMore as well, due to a lot of different factors of course, but the views and posts in this new forum doesn't hurt.

We can't simply re-post the entire article because that will end up doing real bad things for the site in the search engines. Duplicate content = no good.

There's much more of a long view on this than anything else. And quite frankly, I'm completely OK if the forum doesn't take off and go crazy. The important thing is that the forum is there, because this is one of the first steps in integrating all the forums effort and passion directly into our commenting system!

 

[Dave Blake]

Here is a good example where I see benefit:

http://forums.windowscentral.com/no...-only-$99-99-contract-amazon.html#post2234010

In this situation we link the forum thread for discussion and close that thread. All the information in the discussion is saved in one place. It will be much cleaner.

 

[stmav]

I'll just agree to disagree. I see a whole lot of spin going on here. But I'll be a good soldier and stop.

 

[palandri]

I'll give you bad news; the Bears are down 27 to 14.

 

[Dave Blake]

If you want some bad new just watch how badly the Cowboys will get beet by the Giants today

 

[stmav]

My fantasy team needs a good day out Cruz and Terrance Williams. So I hope it's a passapalooza with some tds.

 

[Dave Blake]

The bears lost and Cowboys won... I wouldn't have predicted that.

 

[eric12341]

I like the disable comments and have discussion in the forums idea alot, similar to talk mobile. That would very easily eliminate all the trolls and facilitate constructive discussion.

I'll give you bad news; the Bears are down 27 to 14.

Because the refs were cheating.

 

[Laura Knotek]

I still don't have the foggiest idea how the bookies favoured the Browns. I just knew they get their asses kicked by Pittsburgh, and I was right.

 

[stmav]

Just curious. Why do the news accounts have mod access on WPC and Crackberry but not imore? And while I'm at it, why do they need mod access? If they are auto generated, it's not like the accounts are logged on to do anything.

 

[Dave Blake]

WPCentral.com is not a person it is like SpamBusterBot#WP its a site generated auto response that needs a name. It has to have a user name to start a thread. The moderator access is just part of the setup. The auto response member name needs moderator access to do its business. That is all it is its not a person or controlled or accessed by any living breathing human.

 

[Laura Knotek]

WPCentral.com is not a person it is like SpamBusterBot#WP its a site generated auto response that needs a name. It has to have a user name to start a thread. The moderator access is just part of the setup. The auto response member name needs moderator access to do its business. That is all it is its not a person or controlled or accessed by any living breathing human.

Remember when SpamBusterBot#WP became a top poster when there was a bug?

It would be funny if WPCentral.com also got top poster status from a bug.

 

[stmav]

I know it's not a person. Just wondered why the mod access when spam buster bot doesn't have it.

 

[Dave Blake]

Here are the logistics. Spambottbuster is a admin group a special group made up for that user name. It needed to be don't that way for that VB hack to work. The way VB works is when a forum is set up we can designate what user groups can post to a thread in that forum. We can also designate what user groups can create new threads. An example would be we (Mods) can see the hidden forum but registered members can not. In the WPCentral News forum only Moderators can post new threads however all user groups can reply to posts. That is how whoever set it up chose to do it. He could have used the Spambottbuster user group but he didn't. If he had the Mod team would not be able to post new threads in that forum. The way it is set up now we can. that is why it is the way it is. WPCentral.com is a moderator because only Moderators can create new threads in the WPCentral News Discussion forum.