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likely incorporating Intel's updated skylake vanilla drivers which include power management and thermal framework updates; Dell dropped theirs last week for there Skylake lineup.
 

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I searched Thurrott's website and didn't see any mention of this. Would you please post a link?

he mentioned in the Twit's Windows Weekly podcast. the latest one. episode 448.

You know all the vendors are pushing Intel hard to get the drivers and firmware fixed...

For Skylake, the operating system has even less say in power management. The chip itself has far more say than ever before meaning there's only so much Microsoft can do at the OS level but that Intel really needs to get going on their end:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/the-many-tricks-intel-skylake-uses-to-go-faster-and-use-less-power/

The most significant power saving feature is called Speed Shift Technology. Currently, power management is a task that's split between the processor itself and the operating system. When the processor is operating at its highest guaranteed frequency (the "base" frequency used on spec sheets and product boxes), called P1, turbo boosting (temporarily increasing the frequency when not all cores are in use, a state called P0) is enabled and performed by the processor's own power management hardware. When operating at frequencies below P1 (called P2, P3, etc.), the power management is done by the operating system. The system's firmware offers the operating system a range of different frequencies to choose from, and the operating system picks one depending on the current workload, power priorities (maximum performance versus maximum battery life), and temperature.

In Skylake, the power management is more cooperative. The operating system still has some control—for example, it can force a low frequency for extending battery life, or more commonly, it can set a range of acceptable frequencies—but the processor itself handles the rest. Rather than just choosing between P0 turbo states, the processor can pick between the full range of P states, from the minimum frequency all the way up to P0.

This makes power management far more responsive. The old way was relatively slow; it takes about 30 milliseconds for the processor to inform the operating system that something has happened (the workload has gone up, the system is getting too hot, etc.) and for the operating system to then respond (increase the frequency to handle the workload, reduce the frequency to reduce power draw). In the new system, that time is cut to about 1 millisecond. This means that the processor is both quicker to react to new work, boosting the frequency as needed, but also much quicker to cut the frequency when idle. Skylake processors will pick the most efficient frequency to run at, without needing operating system oversight. They'll also be able to go as slow as 100MHz if that's all that's needed.
 

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Geo, Did you modify the "Hibernate after" Settings? I did a sleep study and realized that my Surface Book hibernated after being sleep for 3 hours. I was all excited them morning when I saw I still had 92% battery. :)
 

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Geo, Did you modify the "Hibernate after" Settings? I did a sleep study and realized that my Surface Book hibernated after being sleep for 3 hours. I was all excited them morning when I saw I still had 92% battery. :)

My surface go's after 180mins too :) its a good way to keep battery going and I have set to hibernate when I press the power button too, ohh I have to ask does the surface book need regedit as well? for power options
 

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Thanks man, this helped me a lot!
Now I get 6-8 hrs battery while surfing (without fan kicking in) and about 2-3 hrs image editing in Photoshop CC with heavy usage of layers/filters and raw files. And the SP4 keeps totally silent!!
 

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Thanks man, this helped me a lot!
Now I get 6-8 hrs battery while surfing (without fan kicking in) and about 2-3 hrs image editing in Photoshop CC with heavy usage of layers/filters and raw files. And the SP4 keeps totally silent!!
You would get that 12 hours with screen brightness at 25% or less
 

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holy... why didn't I see this before?? Searched everywhere! thanks man! Just in time for Easter Sunday theme as my SP3 has risen

on a side note, I think this is disabled due to Hyper-V those using virtual machines hosted by a Surface machine
 
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holy... why didn't I see this before?? Searched everywhere! thanks man! Just in time for Easter Sunday theme as my SP3 has risen

on a side note, I think this is disabled due to Hyper-V those using virtual machines hosted by a Surface machine

Yeah most likely :) should be a better way around it, this is pc after all
 

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Would this work on a Win 7 machine as well? The fan noise is killing me; and it's legacy Core i7 too ... not terribly fast to begin with. Thanks.
 

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