Official Lumia 830 specs+info - it's here!

[Keith Wallace]

I really don't understand why everyone is so damn upset. They brought OIS to the 800 series, a bigger, higher res screen, an aluminum chassis, a bigger battery. And it's crap because the processor isn't a leap forward? Then you probably need to join the Android camp. Doesn't have hey Cortana? They don't exactly pick and choose which features they want to withhold. It's a delicate balance of design, features, price, positioning, etc. Seriously, we're spoiled.

LOL, having expectations of advancement and quality means people should go to Android? You mean that Windows Phone is only for those who can TRULY appreciate stagnant, inferior hardware and redundant products?

OIS is nice, sure. The screen is fine, whatever. The aluminum is bad, to me, because I don't like the coloring of it (especially with the plate colors). The battery's an improvement, but not everyone has battery life issues in the first place.

Yes, it absolutely IS crap that in 2014, they couldn't afford a SoC that improves upon the chip inside the WP8 launch devices, a chip that was released in early-2012.

Oh, and the "affordable flagship" can't run the biggest feature addition announced to the OS? Super flagshippy. It's a notch below mid-range by 2014 standards. It's mid-range by 2014 standards. It's upper-mid-range by 2012 standards. That's why it sucks.

 

[Eliminateur]

it IS baffling what nokia does to each iteration, it's like two steps forward and a random number of steps back....

unless you go for the ultra flagship everything behind it (and somehow even the flagship don't get everything and it's separated in several devices, like: you want top cam: "wp8 launch hw" 1020, you want bat and screen "1520", you want "normal size" "930") is crippled in idiotic and random ways.

WP8 launch HW was much better segmented(but even then add some ******** decisions like the 920 not having SD card)

 

[Keith Wallace]

There's nothing to make sense of with that comment, though. The company at the helm of the 730/830 launch is not the same that handled the WP8 Lumia launch, the 1020, the 1520, and such. It was under Microsoft's watch that the McLaren was canceled. It could even be that the 830 was to have a Snapdragon 800 with Nokia, but Microsoft wanted more per-device profits and swapped it to the 400 in the end (could explain the conflicting rumors).

In the beginning of WP8, you could drop from the 920 to the 820 and get a nearly-identical experience, save the camera and display. It's with Microsoft that we've gotten this disappointing release.

 

[ininjam]

In the beginning of WP8, you could drop from the 920 to the 820 and get a nearly-identical experience, save the camera and display. It's with Microsoft that we've gotten this disappointing release.

I'm with the people here who just don't really get everyone's whining. No, imo you DON'T get near identical experience at all going from 920 to 820 exactly because of those things you mentioned, the camera and the screen, else they wouldn't have always been the feature most improved upon each release and most crazily marketed about for ANY manufacturer of ANY phone series period, flagship or no. After all, those features are essential to the USER EXPERIENCE of a phone, not what chipset is on board (which is again, a debatable topic anywhere but on WP, since we know it will deliver similar EXPERIENCE across the spectrum.) And we're not even talking about the design, the aesthetics, the durability etc. A phone that feels good in the hand, looks good, has a nice bright screen, good OS, take good pictures and has good performance is a win phone experience to me. With its 1gb of RAM you don't really miss out anything on the app store either.
To my understanding, a 'flagship' is just whatever the heck a manufacturer choose to market like crazy, and which they believe carries all their visions. I don't see the lumia 830 lacking in any of that, feature - wise it's pretty similar to any flagship out there (it's just now that others are trying to put OIS in their best phones and nothing else) while being cheaper by a lot (no you don't covert euro to get dollar price, it doesn't work that way, it's just same number, different symbols,) UX wise it beats anything in its group. So if Microsoft is focusing their marketing on it, I don't see why it's a blasphemy on the holy term of "flagship" like I feel many of you here are saying. After all, it is the same logic behind the Moto series, which are being praised over in the other sites like Jesus reborn. And yes, they are Motorola's "flagships", in each device range. Heck, it's the same logic for the existence of all the "Mini" phone series out there, and they don't even provide as great a build and UX as the Lumia 830 when compared with their costlier counterparts.
Honestly the doom and gloom ' s just too much over just one feature while disregarding all the rest, I almost feel like some haters are sabotaging the board and trying to poison everyone's mind with spec info or something.
Personally, I am just glad I don't have to gut myself for a sunlight readable screen with OIS and Pureview running my favorite OS, and will be eagerly awaiting this phone, even if it might not be my main phone.

 

[sahib lopez]

I'm with the people here who just don't really get everyone's whining. No, imo you DON'T get near identical experience at all going from 920 to 820 exactly because of those things you mentioned, the camera and the screen, else they wouldn't have always been the feature most improved upon each release and most crazily marketed about for ANY manufacturer of ANY phone series period, flagship or no. After all, those features are essential to the USER EXPERIENCE of a phone, not what chipset is on board (which is again, a debatable topic anywhere but on WP, since we know it will deliver similar EXPERIENCE across the spectrum.) And we're not even talking about the design, the aesthetics, the durability etc. A phone that feels good in the hand, looks good, has a nice bright screen, good OS, take good pictures and has good performance is a win phone experience to me. With its 1gb of RAM you don't really miss out anything on the app store either.

To my understanding, a 'flagship' is just whatever the heck a manufacturer choose to market like crazy, and which they believe carries all their visions. I don't see the lumia 830 lacking in any of that, feature - wise it's pretty similar to any flagship out there (it's just now that others are trying to put OIS in their best phones and nothing else) while being cheaper by a lot (no you don't covert euro to get dollar price, it doesn't work that way, it's just same number, different symbols,) UX wise it beats anything in its group. So if Microsoft is focusing their marketing on it, I don't see why it's a blasphemy on the holy term of "flagship" like I feel many of you here are saying. After all, it is the same logic behind the Moto series, which are being praised over in the other sites like Jesus reborn. And yes, they are Motorola's "flagships", in each device range. Heck, it's the same logic for the existence of all the "Mini" phone series out there, and they don't even provide as great a build and UX as the Lumia 830 when compared with their costlier counterparts.

Honestly the doom and gloom ' s just too much over just one feature while disregarding all the rest, I almost feel like some haters are sabotaging the board and trying to poison everyone's mind with spec info or something.

Personally, I am just glad I don't have to gut myself for a sunlight readable screen with OIS and Pureview running my favorite OS, and will be eagerly awaiting this phone, even if it might not be my main phone.

I applaud you ! This is what someone needed to say. I for one don't care if it
Runs a SD 400. At the end of the day its an upgrade to my 810 and the other 8xx series phones. Again well said !

 

[clvrbas]

These phones look great, and I like to have one. I am a little disappointed about needing a 80x series for the always listening feature, that is the one thing about Google Now I liked, but I'll survive and it's not the end of the world.

 

[nallWhite]

I relooked at the specs of the L820 and L830 over at GSM Arena. This device is definitely an upgrade. Screen, CPU, wireless charging, big battery. I'd rather have the SD400 with more battery life versus L930 with the SD800 with less life. And, you can change out the battery. Hell the iPhone 5s is rocking a dual core with sucky battery life. And, you threaten to go this? Good bye future wall hugger.

 

[ttxzee]

Re: Officially rLumia 830 specs/info - it's here!

SD400 is only dual core

according to qualcomm, snapdragon 400 is "Up to 1.7 GHz dual-core Krait 300 CPU or up to 1.4GHz quad-core ARM? Cortex? A7 CPU"
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/400

 

[wiggum15]

Like I said, I'm trying to figure out what the folks at Nokia were thinking. So far I haven't seen anyone provide a better explanation. Maybe they are all just stupid, right?

Yeah...maybe...

Look at it this way:
NO ONE will pay nearly 400? for a 830, maybe die hard WP fans who want a lumia no matter what.
A ordinary customer goes into the store and find the 830 pretty nice but the salesperson will tell him:
- This is WP, Android is better
- This Android phone is cheaper
- This Android phone is cheaper and has a 1080p display
- This Android phone is cheaper and has a better CPU
- This Android phone is cheaper and has much more RAM
- This Android phone is cheaper and has a better Camera (because more MP...maybe 13MP)
- This Android phone is cheaper and has a better FF Camera

He will NOT say:
- The Lumia has more high quality screen although its not 1080p
- The Lumia has OIS and makes better low-light photos
- The Lumia has QI charging build in (WTF is that ?! will the ordinary customer think and the salesperson will not know)
- The Lumia has SensorCore (WTF is that ?! will the ordinary customer think and the salesperson will not know)

So yes they are stupid because:
DONT call it a affordable flagship, its not affordable (400? !!) and not a flagship !

Fix the fail:
Call it whatever you want but go down with the price at least 50? or better get a SD800 or a 1080p display and better FF camera in it quick !

 

[cotras]

LOL, having expectations of advancement and quality means people should go to Android? You mean that Windows Phone is only for those who can TRULY appreciate stagnant, inferior hardware and redundant products?

This phone is for people who appreciate the features and the nice stylish looks. I for one would NOT be willing to pay MORE just to get a beefier CPU. Am I not allowed to get anything nicer than a L520, unless I'm willing to shell out $700?

 

[The Lard]

To all those people who keep going 'you can get an Android phone with double these so specs for half the money etc etc', just two things: build quality and operating system quality. There's a reason people pay what they pay for iPhones.

Where there problem lies, as always, is with reputation, customer education and marketing. MS's marketing is dangerously bad. This is where Apple have the upper hand as they are what MS aspires to be and, based on technical merits, what they deserve to be. The standard of product is really much closer to iPhone than it is to Galaxy or Moto, so perhaps this is where the comparisons should be drawn, and against the thing that really counts: overall user experience of both the hardware and the software, not just numbers on paper. For one thing with MS's less expensive offering you get, amongst other things, a phone that you won't be compelled to replace every two years because you dared to try and install more than one major update on it and now it runs like a dog.

This seems to bring a whole new perspective to the Lumia's value.

 

[HelloLudger]

I can't understand anyone who praises the 830 with its current specs t the targeted price point.

This is no matter of taste, Motorola offers the same phone (probably with a worse camera) for THE HALF.
You're saying"I'm willing to pay 200?(!) for Nokia build quality and this better camera." - And that's simply not a sane decision, unless money is not factor (but then, why not paying 70? more for the 930?).

If they sell it for 249?, hell even 269?, yes, it's an affordable flagship. At 399? it's just a joke and a bad omen for WP's future.

 

[Keith Wallace]

I relooked at the specs of the L820 and L830 over at GSM Arena. This device is definitely an upgrade. Screen, CPU, wireless charging, big battery. I'd rather have the SD400 with more battery life versus L930 with the SD800 with less life. And, you can change out the battery. Hell the iPhone 5s is rocking a dual core with sucky battery life. And, you threaten to go this? Good bye future wall hugger.

The CPU isn't a given improvement. Expectation is that it will be a small improvement over the 820's CPU, but it will come with a decent chunk of performance decrease with the GPU. The CPU gains are expected to be less than the GPU losses, is what I mean. The 820 also had the wireless charging cover add-on, so if it was really about that, you could upgrade the 820 to wireless charging for probably $30, instead of buying a new phone for that one feature. The battery's a nice improvement, but my sister's 822 gets great battery life as it is, so I don't think battery improvements are as big of a selling point to replace an 820, as opposed to a 920.

 

[Keith Wallace]

This phone is for people who appreciate the features and the nice stylish looks. I for one would NOT be willing to pay MORE just to get a beefier CPU. Am I not allowed to get anything nicer than a L520, unless I'm willing to shell out $700?

The Lumia 820 launched with a comparable SoC for $350-$400, while the 920 launched with that same SoC of similar quality for $450, and that was in 2012. This is going to run probably $400-450 while running 2012-quality hardware. Speaking in extremes with no actual facts to back it up doesn't make you right. The most-expensive WP8 device I've seen is the 1520 on AT&T, which runs at $585, and with vastly superior hardware, so saying "$700" is an outright lie or shows a lack of research on your part. The 820 cost less when it launched with mostly-comparable hardware, except the camera. Tech costs also drop rather quickly, so adding $50-100 2 years later for a bigger battery, nicer display, and a camera isn't really justified.

 

[ams963]

Will L830 back covers come in matte or glossy colors?

 

[cotras]

The most-expensive WP8 device I've seen is the 1520 on AT&T, which runs at $585, and with vastly superior hardware, so saying "$700" is an outright lie or shows a lack of research on your part.

Ok, I admit it was a bad exaggeration on my part. Still, if this phone has the performance level I need, the features, looks and build quality I like, with the lowest price I can find, that's what I'll need to buy.

 

[nallWhite]

The CPU isn't a given improvement. Expectation is that it will be a small improvement over the 820's CPU, but it will come with a decent chunk of performance decrease with the GPU. The CPU gains are expected to be less than the GPU losses, is what I mean. The 820 also had the wireless charging cover add-on, so if it was really about that, you could upgrade the 820 to wireless charging for probably $30, instead of buying a new phone for that one feature. The battery's a nice improvement, but my sister's 822 gets great battery life as it is, so I don't think battery improvements are as big of a selling point to replace an 820, as opposed to a 920.

No issues with games on my L635. A lower price would make this more attractive

 

[loganweaponx007]

Just to clarify a few items:

• The SoCs are comparable, both from the Snapdragon 400 series. The Lumia 1320's will have better single-threaded performance. They'll roughly be on-par for multi-threaded activities.
• The 830 supports SensorCore, but not the wake-on-voice Cortana feature (requires Snapdragon 80x)
• The 830 also includes a magnetometer. The 1320 lacks a gyroscope.

Posted via the Windows Phone Central App for Android

 

[hasasimo]

Dumb question: Is there any difference at all between the processors in the Lumia 830 and the Lumia 630/635? I've read conflicting information.

 

[pankaj981]

Dumb question: Is there any difference at all between the processors in the Lumia 830 and the Lumia 630/635? I've read conflicting information.

Should be the same with the same GPU