Person of interest thread

[RumoredNow]

Person of Interest: http://forums.windowscentral.com/members/ranajoy.htm

I issued a Custom Infraction of 50 points for 9 months... I attribute the breach to stupidity, not malice. However, this member bears watching in case he pushes this breach further.

Original Post: http://forums.windowscentral.com/ask-question/390236-join-windowsphone-whatsapp-group.html

join our WindowsPhone grp and share your love towards windows phones and discuss about it.. also participate in contests..
RULES- 1) members should have a windows phone. 2) no off topic discussions. 3) English is the only communicating medium..

post ur whtsapp number and u will be added to our group..
As of now there are 48 members and 2 admins in our group..

The (probably absent minded) phishing for contact numbers to be posted on an open forum is the most disturbing aspect and why I made it worse than Outside Linking or Developer Rules Violation.


Here is the Infract Thread: http://forums.windowscentral.com/re...e-group-phishing-contact-details-members.html

 

[a5cent]

In regard to missionsparta...

I've come to the conclusion that he's a troll. I have yet to see a single one of his posts make a meaningful contribution. His posting history tells me that he's doing his best to walk the fine line between not being infracted (often unsuccessfully), but still doing his utmost to rile up the community. If I had seen it earlier I would have banned him for this:

http://forums.windowscentral.com/microsoft-lumia-950-xl/368972-10.htm#post3270867

Not for this post specifically, but for his long history of disruptive posting.

I'm at the point where I'd just get rid of him, for no other reason than him simply being of no value to the community and making WCentral less enjoyable for others.

Any objections? Anybody see any redeeming qualities? I won't mind if someone unearths them. I'd prefer to find them if they exist. I just haven't.

 

[RumoredNow]

Any objections? Anybody see any redeeming qualities?

It is hard to tell if he is a user that feels he is being abandoned or just a dirtwad.

You are right though, either way he's just poking the beehive with a sharp stick.

 

[a5cent]

It is hard to tell if he is a user that feels he is being abandoned or just a dirtwad.

You are right though, either way he's just poking the beehive with a sharp stick.

Yes.

I think Nabkawe5 is an example of a person who feels abandoned. Similar to a troll, he also aims to rile up the community, but in contrast to a real troll, he sees a riled up community just as a means to an end. His aim is to have us all grab our virtual torches and pitchforks and then march with him on virtual Redmond, in the hope of focusing MS' attention on the issues which are important to him. It's terribly ill conceived, but at least it comes from a place of passion.

That's not how I see missionsparta. As far as I can tell, for him, riling up the community is not just the means to an end but a goal in and of itself. That's why I see him as a troll.

Maybe I missed some of his posts, or maybe someone else has been able to put together the puzzle pieces his personality has strewn across the forums in a different way, so as to depict a different picture. I'd gladly be wrong on this one.

 

[Guytronic]

missionsparta is on the front page articles quite a bit.
I never have thought the replies from him/her/whomever were helpful at all.

I consider missionparta another bored pot stirring troublemaker.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Yes.

I think Nabkawe5 is an example of a person who feels abandoned. Similar to a troll, he also aims to rile up the community, but in contrast to a real troll, he sees a riled up community just as a means to an end. His aim is to have us all grab our virtual torches and pitchforks and then march with him on virtual Redmond, in the hope of focusing MS' attention on the issues which are important to him. It's terribly ill conceived, but at least it comes from a place of passion.

That's not how I see missionsparta. As far as I can tell, for him, riling up the community is not just the means to an end but a goal in and of itself. That's why I see him as a troll.

Maybe I missed some of his posts, or maybe someone else has been able to put together the puzzle pieces his personality has strewn across the forums in a different way, so as to depict a different picture. I'd gladly be wrong on this one.

I agree. I feel that Nabkawe5 could possibly be a good member, since he had been in the past. He seems to be disgruntled due to what happened to Nokia. I suspect he wasn't a Windows Phone fan, but a Nokia fan. Perhaps he even knew someone who worked for Nokia (I know he mentioned the layoffs somewhere--perhaps on the blog comments). He's a young fellow, but his father/mother/older sibling could have even worked for Nokia.

missionsparta just seems like a troll, and he doesn't have a history of positive posting at any time.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Missionsparta started another thread. http://forums.windowscentral.com/windows-10-mobile/391039-app-conversations.html

 

[a5cent]

Missionsparta started another thread. http://forums.windowscentral.com/windows-10-mobile/391039-app-conversations.html

He hasn't been on in a while. The next (even slightly) objectionable post will be cause enough for his ban however. I don't want to do it now because I believe there should be a direct connection between a punishable act and the ban. Doing it now seems too "out of the blue".

 

[Muessig]

Member Steve Adams seems very anti anything Apple - one to watch out for trolling some sections of the boards.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Member Steve Adams seems very anti anything Apple - one to watch out for trolling some sections of the boards.

It's too bad he ruined the iPhone 3d touch thread. That is a feature that fascinated me. I actually went to the AT&T store to play with the iPhone 6s.

I'm not going to get an iPhone, but that was an interesting feature. There aren't many apps that use it yet, but it was interesting to try.

 

[Guytronic]

Apple isn't evil.
They're simply a competitor with a large following.
No need for some to be so incredibly hateful.
Certainly a ridiculous attitude IMO.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Apple isn't evil.
They're simply a competitor with a large following.
No need for some to be so incredibly hateful.
Certainly a ridiculous attitude IMO.

I do admire Steve Jobs for his ability to market the iPhone in a way that completely changed the smartphone business (consumers and fun, not just enterprise and work). I also admire how he was able to get carriers to agree to no bloatware.

 

[Guytronic]

I do admire Steve Jobs for his ability to market the iPhone in a way that completely changed the smartphone business (consumers and fun, not just enterprise and work). I also admire how he was able to get carriers to agree to no bloatware.

Agreed...
A master of elegant design for sure.

I've never understood the psychology behind brand hatred.
Why dislike something because it has seen success?

I guess it's the 'ole "I hate 'em because they are top dog..."

 

[Laura Knotek]

Agreed...
A master of elegant design for sure.

I've never understood the psychology behind brand hatred.
Why dislike something because it has seen success?

I guess it's the 'ole "I hate 'em because they are top dog..."

I don't hate Apple even though I've never owned any Apple products, not even an iPod.

 

[a5cent]

Agreed...
A master of elegant design for sure.

I've never understood the psychology behind brand hatred.
Why dislike something because it has seen success?

I guess it's the 'ole "I hate 'em because they are top dog..."

I don't think Jobs was a master of elegant design. He likely never designed a single elegant consumer product in his life. He was even less of a masterful engineer. He was a perfectionist however, who knew how to get the best from his teams. He was also a great salesman, and had a great sense of timing. Most of all, he was someone who didn't mind cannibalizing existing product lines in order to introduce new innovations. The average CEO would never risk not milking an existing product line for all it's worth, before releasing new products that compete with themselves. I think that's where Jobs true brilliance lay. His willingness to take risks and go against conventional management wisdom.

In all of Apple's existence however, they really only had two very successful products. A portable music player and a mobile phone. Take away the iPhone and literally nobody would be talking about Apple or Jobs today. This tells me Jobs is massively overhyped, mainly because the combination of popular consumer products and the world's biggest bank account is something almost anybody can appreciate. His fame is temporary and will be lost a few generations from now however. IMHO Jobs' achievements pale in comparison to peoples like Einstein, Newton or many cultural or religious leaders, but those achievements aren't as easy for the average Joe to acknowledge.

I think the psychology behind brand fandom and hatred is based on humanity's tribalism. An instinct which is easily exploited by marketing. Most humans will value their sense of belonging over almost anything else. Many people associate a brand with a sense of identity, similar to how people would associate themselves with a clan, other people sharing the same last name, or a state or a country.

 

[RumoredNow]

Nogitsune Micah http://forums.windowscentral.com/members/nogitsune-micah.htm

Check the user's infraction record. Now compare this recent post: http://forums.windowscentral.com/mi...rosofts-true-intention-950-a.html#post3284013


I issued a custom Infraction,"Habitual Trolling" worth 100 points (a 3 day ban) and an expiration of 9 months. http://forums.windowscentral.com/re...action-nogitsune-micah-habitual-trolling.html


I'm sure this person will come back with attitude if the past is any indicator. Truly a candidate for Pete's Moderation Program: http://forums.windowscentral.com/staff-discussion-forum/392567-moderating-users.html

 

[a5cent]

^ I'm fine with that infraction, but I don't think he's so bad. At least he's genuinely interested in WP. He just has is ****** moments that go too far, but he's by far not as insulting as many others.

 

[Laura Knotek]

^ I'm fine with that infraction, but I don't think he's so bad. At least he's genuinely interested in WP. He just has is ****** moments that go too far, but he's by far not as insulting as many others.

I agree with you.

 

[RumoredNow]

I agree as well, that's why he needs the Moderation Program. Rehabilitate, not destroy like some deserve.

:winktongue:

 

[Guytronic]

Micah is a good kid I would say.
Being a long time member he has skirted the limits occasionally born of intense fan-ship perhaps.

Most are passionate few are truly evile...