Sad and true...Tom Warren giving up on WP

[steve cooper]

A lot of people are doing the same thing as him

 

[Luisraul924]

I wonder if this big "exodus" fiasco is what caused those Microsoft devs and engineers to make WC accounts to take our feedback for Windows 10. Whether it is or not, those that say they're true fans should take this opportunity to essentially speak directly to Microsoft and help mold the OS into something we would all want.

 

[flyingsolid]

I would have stuck with Windows Phone if I wasn't on Verizon. I really don't see much future with that relationship. And that is going to hurt WP because Verizon is so big in the US. I can live with the app issue, but it sure is nice to have almost any app I want on android.

Not being able to have faith in the OS upgrade commitments made by Microsoft because of Verizon (i.e. Icon) and no real way to ensure long-term device useful life through Developer Preview (i.e. DP issues with Samsung boot loop), my view on Windows Phone has sharply changed. As a side note, my particular reason for holding off on Windows Phone, in addition to the above, is the lack of any solid off-contract Lumia in the $100-$300 range for Verizon post-paid customers.

 

[Camden Krupala]

Next winter? Cool

Literally.

 

[Loco5150]

Im getting very close to moving on... Im very tired of this waiting... I only have had the first Galaxy for couple of months and hate Google's leaching of data... I guess the iPhone 6+ could be a good replacement for the 1520? But damn, that phone costs like 1000€, thats pretty insane.

EDIT: Ive had 7 WP's, with 4 WP8 devices... Thats a pretty long wait for basic things to work properly...

 

[Luisraul924]

Im getting very close to moving on... Im very tired of this waiting... I only have had the first Galaxy for couple of months and hate Google's leaching of data... I guess the iPhone 6+ could be a good replacement for the 1520? But damn, that phone costs like 1000?, thats pretty insane.

I highly recommend it, iOS is an amazing OS. That's what I did I got tired of my Lumia 920 got an iPhone 5 then upgraded to the 5s when it came out but I got bored of that too so now I'm back on Windows Phone after two years of being gone and I'm gonna say I love what they've done to it!

 

[onysi]

People don't understand that Microsoft has always been like Google. They spread their apps on all platforms, like Office on Mac. All this stuff is just a stunt the verge is doing to gain traffic. Read it, and his only stupid reason for switching is a weather ******* app that tells him its about to rain in his location. WTF?!

 

[Luisraul924]

People don't understand that Microsoft has always been like Google. They spread their apps on all platforms, like Office on Mac. All this stuff is just a stunt the verge is doing to gain traffic. Read it, and his only stupid reason for switching is a weather ******* app that tells him its about to rain in his location. WTF?!

It always boils down to "one" thing in the end. "the straw that breaks the camels back" so to speak. It is a collective of issues that culminates in the final "eff it, I'm buying an iPhone"

 

[MikeSo]

Can't blame him. The OS is greater than ever, but the app situation is worse than ever. We have more apps, than ever yes, but iOS and Android are exploding with new and exciting apps. It's getting exponentially worse by the month. Windows 10 might change that, but it's not out for another year. It will also be geared towards bigger, PC use apps, not necessarily the smaller photo and location based apps.
With Apple having larger phones now, it's tough to recommend a WP to anyone, unless they want something cheap.

 

[MikeSo]

Yes, but now we really do have official apps swarming in! Just recently we've gotten VLC Media Player, Minecraft, Candy Crush Saga, and a bunch of others that I can't remember.

When WP gets 5 apps, iOS gets 15. The gap is GROWING, not getting better.

 

[matt john2]

Can't blame him. The OS is greater than ever, but the app situation is worse than ever. We have more apps, than ever yes, but iOS and Android are exploding with new and exciting apps. It's getting exponentially worse by the month. Windows 10 might change that, but it's not out for another year. It will also be geared towards bigger, PC use apps, not necessarily the smaller photo and location based apps.
With Apple having larger phones now, it's tough to recommend a WP to anyone, unless they want something cheap.

Well to be honest app gap is not the problem here but the app quality is, in my years of windows phone I can say that most of the app available are junk or doesnt have that same quality of ios or android version have.

 

[adkrish22290]

If this Tom Warren thinks that apps and flagship devices are the "make or break" feature for mobile OSs, he is nothing but a complete fool, probably brainwashed or paid by "Crap"ple to write such a nonsensical article.

 

[Reflexx]

Can't blame him. The OS is greater than ever, but the app situation is worse than ever. We have more apps, than ever yes, but iOS and Android are exploding with new and exciting apps. It's getting exponentially worse by the month. Windows 10 might change that, but it's not out for another year. It will also be geared towards bigger, PC use apps, not necessarily the smaller photo and location based apps.
With Apple having larger phones now, it's tough to recommend a WP to anyone, unless they want something cheap.

The app situation is not "worse than ever". Not by a long shot. We're closer to app parity than we've ever been.

The problem is that being closer than we've ever been isn't close enough.

WP gets apps later if we get them at all. Often times our apps have less functionality and are updated less often. So sometimes having an app available doesn't mean that you can really do what you want to do with it.

Then there's the challenge of apps from smaller businesses. Local businesses will make apps for iOS and Android, but most won't make them for WP.

This is not whining or complaining. It's stating the reality of the situation. And because of that reality, some users will leave even if they love WP.

Or how about toys or gadgets that can be controlled or can interface with smartphones? Well, not all smartphones...

 

[Jonnie LasVegas]

If this Tom Warren thinks that apps and flagship devices are the "make or break" feature for mobile OSs, he is nothing but a complete fool, probably brainwashed or paid by "Crap"ple to write such a nonsensical article.

You may not agree, but it's still true. Like it or not.

 

[tooly26]

Sorry, but this is not true! I don't care about a hardcore flagship, more important is the look and feel of the phone and believe me, 80% of people who are not tech nerds think same way.
gEtApATaLkEd

 

[matt john2]

Sorry, but this is not true! I don't care about a hardcore flagship, more important is the look and feel of the phone and believe me, 80% of people who are not tech nerds think same way.
gEtApATaLkEd

Yep that's why the apple products are so popular.

 

[KJin001]

I didn't read all comment, but I have to say this is not a house phone, an MS should do better there just in it for money! I learn from wp7 u just can't beat android freeness always win. even in the apps if ms owns it still works better on android. apple an android is still garbage to me for various reasons even tho things work on them fine . am too stubborn to switch. lg incite/ lg expo/ lg quantum/ Lumia 900/822/620/920/928/1020/1520/520. still I love my Lumia

 

[UncleGrandpa]

The article is spot on.

 

[Michael Alan Goff]

Yep that's why the apple products are so popular.

So popular being less than Windows Phone in some countries and less than Android worldwide?

 

[anon(123856)]

Who cares what Tom Warren does? It doesn't mean a thing to me.