I ordered mine thru the "at risk" dept on sunday night as I mentioned to them that Verizon had the phone for 199.00. So the acct manager gave me a 150.00 credit to knock my cost down to match verizon since I have been a business acct user for 8yrs and have always had the latest htc phone they've had. He didnt ship it overnight as I thought, but It is scheduled to be here on Wed. I am sending back this Palm Pre the rep had me trying out. It's ok, but it lacks a lot of the basic things I liked about WM for years..