WC 1M Post Challenge - You Ready?!

Laura Knotek

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That's what I feel about college right now. CS/SE students, I can see this working out for them, but as an Electrical Engineering student, yeah, online materials just can't compare to actual classes.
I understand what you're saying. Are you able to use any software such as Microsoft Visio? When I was in college, I was able to use it for free with a student account from my college.
 

Laura Knotek

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In the parody spirit of the video below:

" If you ain't happy cuz of COVID, clap your hands." (clap twice)

If you ain't happy cuz of COVID, clap your hands." (clap twice)

If you ain't happy, boy we know it, but the govt don't want you show it,

If you ain't happy cuz of COVID, clap your hands."

If you ain't happy cuz you know you're ****ed, stamp your feet, (stamp twice)

If you ain't happy cuz you know you're ****ed, stamp your feet, (stamp twice)

If you ain't happy, boy we know it, but the govt don't want you show it,

If you ain't happy cuz you know you're ****ed, stamp your feet, (stamp twice)

If you ain't happy with the govt, nod your head,

If you ain't happy with the govt, nod your head,

If you ain't happy with the govt, and you REALLY want to show it,

If you ain't happy with the govt, VOTE 'EM OUT!

https://youtu.be/FrsM9WggCdo
I also think of the following: "If you're not happy with COVID, wash your hands".
 

Laura Knotek

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I, and a few select others are considering ourselves fortunate to be still working and receiving our salaries while doing limited take out only. I do feel bad for those we had to lay off indefinitely.
I'm sorry about the folks you had to lay off, I'm glad you're still able to do take out.

Is delivery an option? Here, DoorDash and UberEats are still going, with contactless delivery.
 

Rose640

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I understand what you're saying. Are you able to use any software such as Microsoft Visio? When I was in college, I was able to use it for free with a student account from my college.

I can get it with college email, but we're not using it. We're currently working in Autodesk CAD (that course was optional, I kind of regret taking it) and Matlab, as far as softwares go.
 

Rose640

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When taking CAD/CAM course, I thought most of it was going to be drawing in CAD, making 3D models, building projects etc. But nope. We're doing ancient languages programming. Like LISP and Visual Basic. It's so frustrating.
 

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When taking CAD/CAM course, I thought most of it was going to be drawing in CAD, making 3D models, building projects etc. But nope. We're doing ancient languages programming. Like LISP and Visual Basic. It's so frustrating.
Weird that they're concentrating on programming rather than design.

Not to mention AutoCAD is not really used by larger companies anymore except when needed.

It's a good tool to learn though regardless.

Lisp, VB and VBA are good to know if you want to be a pro on AutoCAD but none is required for design purposes.

I never did CAM so not sure what requirements are needed for that and I'm pretty sure there's software to take AutoCAD drawings and convert them for CAM.

If you need... Um, help with anything (stressing anything) let me know...
 

Rose640

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Weird that they're concentrating on programming rather than design.

Not to mention AutoCAD is not really used by larger companies anymore except when needed.

It's a good tool to learn though regardless.

Lisp, VB and VBA are good to know if you want to be a pro on AutoCAD but none is required for design purposes.

I never did CAM so not sure what requirements are needed for that and I'm pretty sure there's software to take AutoCAD drawings and convert them for CAM.

If you need... Um, help with anything (stressing anything) let me know...

That's why I took it, to have a more diverse set of skills, I can already do C and C++ (not that these are the hottest languages today, but they're great for a start), so I wanted to learn design as well. It's a lot easier to switch tools later on, at least that was the plan.

They showed us how "easier" it is to draw with Lisp, it can certainly be faster, but that thing's just so confusing and messy, especially the syntax.

Thanks, might actually need it.
 

N_LaRUE

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That's why I took it, to have a more diverse set of skills, I can already do C and C++ (not that these are the hottest languages today, but they're great for a start), so I wanted to learn design as well. It's a lot easier to switch tools later on, at least that was the plan.

They showed us how "easier" it is to draw with Lisp, it can certainly be faster, but that thing's just so confusing and messy, especially the syntax.

Thanks, might actually need it.
I won't say no one uses lisp or VB but typically only when you need it.

There's enough tools in AutoCAD to avoid having to use programming.

There's lots of lisp and VB routines online you can find and Autodesk has a store you can access.

Programming AutoCAD is very old-school. No one does it in the design field and typically you'll find that smaller companies are the ones who will invest in it but it's a zero gain really. Once the person goes, who set it all up, the system falls into disrepair. Usually because they do their own thing so trying to figure it out is a pain.

Most companies are going BIM or some form of it.

Learn database programming, like MySQL. It's more useful.
 

fatclue_98

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I won't say no one uses lisp or VB but typically only when you need it.

There's enough tools in AutoCAD to avoid having to use programming.

There's lots of lisp and VB routines online you can find and Autodesk has a store you can access.

Programming AutoCAD is very old-school. No one does it in the design field and typically you'll find that smaller companies are the ones who will invest in it but it's a zero gain really. Once the person goes, who set it all up, the system falls into disrepair. Usually because they do their own thing so trying to figure it out is a pain.

Most companies are going BIM or some form of it.

Learn database programming, like MySQL. It's more useful.

CAD is being used less and less these days, Revit is the go-to and some companies are distributing in Navis. BIM is a four-letter word to us old crusty guys who actually know how to put buildings together.
 

N_LaRUE

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CAD is being used less and less these days, Revit is the go-to and some companies are distributing in Navis. BIM is a four-letter word to us old crusty guys who actually know how to put buildings together.
Revit for architecture and building services. Not for industrial design.

That's between Aveva and Intergraph currently.

Aveva is used more on offshore but I think they're trying to appeal to onshore as well.

There's a difference between designer and CAD user...
 

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The virus fatigue I think will be one of the hardest things to navigate - especially here in the US with the constantly clashing bits of information.
 

MSFTisMIA

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The virus fatigue I think will be one of the hardest things to navigate - especially here in the US with the constantly clashing bits of information.
It's why I can understand those who don't pay attention are trying to be up and about for the sake of normalcy. It's just a tough situation overall.
 

Rose640

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I won't say no one uses lisp or VB but typically only when you need it.

There's enough tools in AutoCAD to avoid having to use programming.

There's lots of lisp and VB routines online you can find and Autodesk has a store you can access.

Programming AutoCAD is very old-school. No one does it in the design field and typically you'll find that smaller companies are the ones who will invest in it but it's a zero gain really. Once the person goes, who set it all up, the system falls into disrepair. Usually because they do their own thing so trying to figure it out is a pain.

Most companies are going BIM or some form of it.

Learn database programming, like MySQL. It's more useful.

I actually could have picked MySQL course, it was an option. If I could pick, I'd never write a line of Lisp or VB on my job, especily Lisp.

I'll probably go for MySQL on a break (if we're even to have one) or Java, we'll see.
 

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