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MSFTisMIA

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So the USA is having protests against the lockdown.

So not surprised. I wish I could've got a snapshot of one of the banners about something to with the mark of the breast... Yeah.

I see Florida already opened its beaches...

I guess they're going with the idea that anything under a million dead is ok?
Here in 'Murica, we don't like "our liberties" to be impacted, even in the face of a pandemic.
 

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I know I've spoken about this recently, but it appears repeating. I have to be very careful when I got out. The look I use has its advantages, yet for a brown person, I'm required to be doubly vigilant.

This is why understanding things like spacing is helpful. The look here is enough to keep people at bay, which is good. It's got its own normal level of distance when I wear it without the mask...the mask just adds a different level. I have walked past NYPD and I've gotten an extra look - no approaches.

Am I in my head? Nope. I went to do business at an ATM at a branch I commonly use. The door was open - not good. Inside, there was a younger brown male sitting on the floor on his phone and a housing insecure gentleman fast asleep on top of the The young man and I locked eyes briefly and he kept his head on in his phone the whole time I was at the ATM. Wasn't afraid, my head was on a swivel ready to react if either he or the housing insecure gentleman became a threat.

One of the crimes we still are hearing that there's a slight uptick on are robberies, especially break ins. It is why I don't go out at night. It is why (along with the no change in profiling) people are making a stink about everyone wearing masks. I understand that the new face covering recommendations makes law enforcement have a harder job to do, but it is now they really need to pay attention.

I see the Laura's of the world able to wear simple bandanas and ski masks styled covering without issues. Most of the people looking like me are wearing masks like mine, or the construction style ones. A mask is a mask, right? Not really. When we wear those, the image has been of people up to no good. I've seen some young men (who still hand out) choose not to wear any.

It's such a complex issue that's one of those unintended consequences.

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/4/15/black_doctor_handcuffed_by_miami_cop20200419_130249.jpeg
 

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One of the other things that's happening is that with reduced service, more of the transient housing insecure folks are sleeping in the subway cars and stations (and stairwells of stations). The cause of housing insecure youth are getting shoved to the side as well. There are the tradition groups still working with these populations. It goes to show that certain problems don't disappear with more people being forced to stay home.
 

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I know I've spoken about this recently, but it appears repeating. I have to be very careful when I got out. The look I use has its advantages, yet for a brown person, I'm required to be doubly vigilant.

This is why understanding things like spacing is helpful. The look here is enough to keep people at bay, which is good. It's got its own normal level of distance when I wear it without the mask...the mask just adds a different level. I have walked past NYPD and I've gotten an extra look - no approaches.

Am I in my head? Nope. I went to do business at an ATM at a branch I commonly use. The door was open - not good. Inside, there was a younger brown male sitting on the floor on his phone and a housing insecure gentleman fast asleep on top of the The young man and I locked eyes briefly and he kept his head on in his phone the whole time I was at the ATM. Wasn't afraid, my head was on a swivel ready to react if either he or the housing insecure gentleman became a threat.

One of the crimes we still are hearing that there's a slight uptick on are robberies, especially break ins. It is why I don't go out at night. It is why (along with the no change in profiling) people are making a stink about everyone wearing masks. I understand that the new face covering recommendations makes law enforcement have a harder job to do, but it is now they really need to pay attention.

I see the Laura's of the world able to wear simple bandanas and ski masks styled covering without issues. Most of the people looking like me are wearing masks like mine, or the construction style ones. A mask is a mask, right? Not really. When we wear those, the image has been of people up to no good. I've seen some young men (who still hand out) choose not to wear any.

It's such a complex issue that's one of those unintended consequences.

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/4/15/black_doctor_handcuffed_by_miami_copView attachment 142092

Under "normal" circumstances you wouldn't be able to sniff the inside of a bank wearing that outfit. At least not without being escorted by a couple of Deputy Barneys - with hands plainly on Glocks.
 

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I know I've spoken about this recently, but it appears repeating. I have to be very careful when I got out. The look I use has its advantages, yet for a brown person, I'm required to be doubly vigilant.

This is why understanding things like spacing is helpful. The look here is enough to keep people at bay, which is good. It's got its own normal level of distance when I wear it without the mask...the mask just adds a different level. I have walked past NYPD and I've gotten an extra look - no approaches.

Am I in my head? Nope. I went to do business at an ATM at a branch I commonly use. The door was open - not good. Inside, there was a younger brown male sitting on the floor on his phone and a housing insecure gentleman fast asleep on top of the The young man and I locked eyes briefly and he kept his head on in his phone the whole time I was at the ATM. Wasn't afraid, my head was on a swivel ready to react if either he or the housing insecure gentleman became a threat.

One of the crimes we still are hearing that there's a slight uptick on are robberies, especially break ins. It is why I don't go out at night. It is why (along with the no change in profiling) people are making a stink about everyone wearing masks. I understand that the new face covering recommendations makes law enforcement have a harder job to do, but it is now they really need to pay attention.

I see the Laura's of the world able to wear simple bandanas and ski masks styled covering without issues. Most of the people looking like me are wearing masks like mine, or the construction style ones. A mask is a mask, right? Not really. When we wear those, the image has been of people up to no good. I've seen some young men (who still hand out) choose not to wear any.

It's such a complex issue that's one of those unintended consequences.

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/4/15/black_doctor_handcuffed_by_miami_copView attachment 142092

The amount of videos I see every now and then of cops bullying black people in US is just astounding. And not just cops, just regular entitled, crappy, humans.

Good thing that stop and frisk lover dropped out.
 

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Still no sports. I was watching 2006 World Cup in Germany the other day. It was actually quite amusing, seeing al those players I haven't heard of in a long, long time.
 

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Speaking of sports, news just came in that Bundesliga could start soon. As a football lover and a Bayern fan, I can't be happier, but I can't forget the safety aspect of it.
 

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In case you didn't know, China is to blame for US coming late to take actions against the virus.
 

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Under "normal" circumstances you wouldn't be able to sniff the inside of a bank wearing that outfit. At least not without being escorted by a couple of Deputy Barneys - with hands plainly on Glocks.
And that's why I'm sure to take the glasses off when I go inside...unless I don't feel comfortable and am leaning into the things that come with it in response.
 

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The amount of videos I see every now and then of cops bullying black people in US is just astounding. And not just cops, just regular entitled, crappy, humans.

Good thing that stop and frisk lover dropped out.
Just because stop and frisk has ended, doesn't mean what was behind that policy still doesn't exist.
 

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Just because stop and frisk has ended, doesn't mean what was behind that policy still doesn't exist.

Unfortunately, that's the truth.

As someone who lives in different enough world, US police comes to me as an odd bunch of fellas. Not that I hate police, they have their place in the system, but you can't convince me thst what they're doing on a regular basis is justified.

I keep seing cops pulling guns out on every occasion, being super aggressive and just acting like bullies. Oh yeah, and they kill a bunch of innocent people, a bunch of them.

All that, while not being obligated to protect you, as a court ruling says.
 

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I know I've spoken about this recently, but it appears repeating. I have to be very careful when I got out. The look I use has its advantages, yet for a brown person, I'm required to be doubly vigilant.

This is why understanding things like spacing is helpful. The look here is enough to keep people at bay, which is good. It's got its own normal level of distance when I wear it without the mask...the mask just adds a different level. I have walked past NYPD and I've gotten an extra look - no approaches.

Am I in my head? Nope. I went to do business at an ATM at a branch I commonly use. The door was open - not good. Inside, there was a younger brown male sitting on the floor on his phone and a housing insecure gentleman fast asleep on top of the The young man and I locked eyes briefly and he kept his head on in his phone the whole time I was at the ATM. Wasn't afraid, my head was on a swivel ready to react if either he or the housing insecure gentleman became a threat.

One of the crimes we still are hearing that there's a slight uptick on are robberies, especially break ins. It is why I don't go out at night. It is why (along with the no change in profiling) people are making a stink about everyone wearing masks. I understand that the new face covering recommendations makes law enforcement have a harder job to do, but it is now they really need to pay attention.

I see the Laura's of the world able to wear simple bandanas and ski masks styled covering without issues. Most of the people looking like me are wearing masks like mine, or the construction style ones. A mask is a mask, right? Not really. When we wear those, the image has been of people up to no good. I've seen some young men (who still hand out) choose not to wear any.

It's such a complex issue that's one of those unintended consequences.

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/4/15/black_doctor_handcuffed_by_miami_copView attachment 142092
Under normal circumstances I wouldn't be allowed inside a bank with a cap, mask and sunglasses either.

A white person with brown hair would just be too generic looking for anyone to provide an accurate description if eyes and face were obscured.
 
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Ironically, I joked with a friend that COVID-19 is perfect for robbers, since everyone is wearing a mask, and nobody is able to accurately describe anyone else's appearance.
 

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Under normal circumstances I wouldn't be allowed inside a bank with a cap, mask and sunglasses either.

A white person with brown hair would just be too generic looking for anyone to provide an accurate description if eyes and face were obscured.
Yes, but if they looked closely and saw brown they give the generic "tall scary looking black man" description with the same level of quickness.
 

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Ironically, I joked with a friend that COVID-19 is perfect for robbers, since everyone is wearing a mask, and nobody is able to accurately describe anyone else's appearance.
The look is intimidating. The truth is though unless someone has the most generic list of clothing possible, there's some unique marker that's there. It's why the police need to do an even more thorough job of ferreting out the opportunistic criminals vs someone with a look.
 

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The look is intimidating. The truth is though unless someone has the most generic list of clothing possible, there's some unique marker that's there. It's why the police need to do an even more thorough job of ferreting out the opportunistic criminals vs someone with a look.
That's true.

Unfortunately, eyewitness accounts tend to be inaccurate in many cases, even if the witnesses and the perpetrator are of the same race. Add in a witness and a perpetrator of different races, and the eyewitness accounts are even more inaccurate.

I watched Innocence Project on Netflix, and it saddened me to see so many people who spent years in prison for crimes they did not commit.
 

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That's true.

Unfortunately, eyewitness accounts tend to be inaccurate in many cases, even if the witnesses and the perpetrator are of the same race. Add in a witness and a perpetrator of different races, and the eyewitness accounts are even more inaccurate.

I watched Innocence Project on Netflix, and it saddened me to see so many people who spent years in prison for crimes they did not commit.
That's what makes the whole relationship between minorities and the legal system so complicated. There are people who look like you of course who have had similar experiences.

It's amazing that the legal system here even works that well, given those level of errors.
 

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Unfortunately, that's the truth.

As someone who lives in different enough world, US police comes to me as an odd bunch of fellas. Not that I hate police, they have their place in the system, but you can't convince me thst what they're doing on a regular basis is justified.

I keep seing cops pulling guns out on every occasion, being super aggressive and just acting like bullies. Oh yeah, and they kill a bunch of innocent people, a bunch of them.

All that, while not being obligated to protect you, as a court ruling says.
Being a cop is a very difficult job. No one denies that.

My issue has been when things go wrong, they go wrong very badly. In the US, whole tough on crime bit that Mr. Biden was a part of from the 80s through the early 90s has been shown not to work at all. Yest, the adjustments to the fallout from that have been still slow to be made.
 

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Being a cop is a very difficult job. No one denies that.

My issue has been when things go wrong, they go wrong very badly. In the US, whole tough on crime bit that Mr. Biden was a part of from the 80s through the early 90s has been shown not to work at all. Yest, the adjustments to the fallout from that have been still slow to be made.

I'm not going to argue the fact that the job CAN be hard, but most of the time it's a routine. And you've been paid for who knows how long for a maybe necessary routine. And when things get ugly, that one time when you're supposed to act, you screw up, hard. These are not isolated cases, this is apparently a standard.

I know, cops are human as well, we all make mistakes, I agree. But if there were so many fatal mistakes in other branches and proffesions, what would the world look like? And would they get the same protective treatment? I don't think so.
 

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