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THIS is how the fuzz should behave. I'm shocked beyond all belief it came from Gables cops. Historically they've been no angels.

https://cbs12.com/news/local/police-take-a-knee-in-solidarity-prayer-with-protesters-in-coral-gables
Well, that helps to highlight how complicated the issue really is.

The GF is watching something knew on TV (she always is) called Penny Dreadful: City of Angels. It is currently tapping into some of the complicated parts of the relationships between brown (in this case, Hispanic) and law enforcement. While it's a bore to watch for me in terms of the time it was set in (1930s) and the pacing of the story, it's good to see these issues being highlighted.

Sometimes it takes the places of no saints to be a place to start healing.
 

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One of the most interesting observations of the deep rooted problems is in 'Murica: idealogy vs real life. In order to keep a distance from the ill effects of policy choices and institutional decisions, said choices are often discussed idealogically.

Case in point: immigration. People in the privileged group who know individuals from from the marginalized group. Because of that connection to someone who doesn't fit the stereotypes, they can who can easily make exceptions for those people while staying anchored idealogically to those (often negative) stereotypes.

Case in point: racism. People in the privileged group who know individuals from from the marginalized group. Because of that connection to someone who doesn't fit the stereotypes, they can who can easily make exceptions for those people while staying anchored idealogically to those (often negative) stereotypes.

Am I painting these views in a philosophical or idealogical light? Some may say so. Some may say I'm sweeping away the differences in each issue under the rug. I don't think so, as with the

It's easier to divide and separate and subjugate and demonize and oppress people when it's not up in their face. It's easier to lean into historical privileges to continue said exploitation and societal injustices.
 

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One of the most interesting observations of the deep rooted problems is in 'Murica: idealogy vs real life. In order to keep a distance from the ill effects of policy choices and institutional decisions, said choices are often discussed idealogically.

Case in point: immigration. People in the privileged group who know individuals from from the marginalized group. Because of that connection to someone who doesn't fit the stereotypes, they can who can easily make exceptions for those people while staying anchored idealogically to those (often negative) stereotypes.

Case in point: racism. People in the privileged group who know individuals from from the marginalized group. Because of that connection to someone who doesn't fit the stereotypes, they can who can easily make exceptions for those people while staying anchored idealogically to those (often negative) stereotypes.

Am I painting these views in a philosophical or idealogical light? Some may say so. Some may say I'm sweeping away the differences in each issue under the rug. I don't think so, as with the

It's easier to divide and separate and subjugate and demonize and oppress people when it's not up in their face. It's easier to lean into historical privileges to continue said exploitation and societal injustices.

Ooh such valid points...
 

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So I'm waiting for the new gear to arrive. I ordered two masks and two pairs of safety glasses. The clear ones I'll wear locally and the tinted ones I'll wear long distance. I'm retiring my regular shades until there's a vaccine. Hopefully these will give me better eye protection, along with the masks. I'll likely look a bit more intimidating than the look I've posted before. But it's summer so I won't have on the hat at least.

I find I was getting more stuff in my eyes, which isn't good when I got out. The clear ones will be great as sometimes I just don't want to touch the face to take the glasses off when I'm out locally. I've seen all sorts of protective wear when out now so not much matters or bothers me.
 

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Y'all got a ways to go before you join the Flori-Duh sh*thood. I am however, proud of our city for keeping it cool up until now. I lived through every one of the 4 riots we had in the 80s. For the uninformed, each and every one involved white cops killing black men. Unlike Ferguson and others, they were all charged. What caused the riots? Not the acts themselves but rather the acquittals in each and every trial.

Latinos who have fair complexions like me think they're immune to this but like the old WNBA slogan said - we got next.
Flori-duh got a special level of knuckleheadedness that no one can match.
 

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One of the most interesting observations of the deep rooted problems is in 'Murica: idealogy vs real life. In order to keep a distance from the ill effects of policy choices and institutional decisions, said choices are often discussed idealogically.

Case in point: immigration. People in the privileged group who know individuals from from the marginalized group. Because of that connection to someone who doesn't fit the stereotypes, they can who can easily make exceptions for those people while staying anchored idealogically to those (often negative) stereotypes.

Case in point: racism. People in the privileged group who know individuals from from the marginalized group. Because of that connection to someone who doesn't fit the stereotypes, they can who can easily make exceptions for those people while staying anchored idealogically to those (often negative) stereotypes.

Am I painting these views in a philosophical or idealogical light? Some may say so. Some may say I'm sweeping away the differences in each issue under the rug. I don't think so, as with the

It's easier to divide and separate and subjugate and demonize and oppress people when it's not up in their face. It's easier to lean into historical privileges to continue said exploitation and societal injustices.
That's the thing regarding historical white privilege. I had a conversation with a friend yesterday that involved that topic. I said that the problem isn't the laws, but how the police enforce those laws, and the attitudes that people who look like me have towards people who don't look like me.

If I were suspected of passing a counterfeit $20, most likely I wouldn't even be arrested, much less killed. Simply saying that I didn't know it was funny money would probably be enough to just send me on my way.

If I asked someone to put her dog on a leash in a park that requires that dogs be on leashes, nobody would call the cops on me.

The laws are perfectly ok. The problem is that the police and the other white people need to treat brown people the same way they treat me. Nobody else should be murdered or harassed simply for not looking like me.
 

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One of the most interesting observations of the deep rooted problems is in 'Murica: idealogy vs real life. In order to keep a distance from the ill effects of policy choices and institutional decisions, said choices are often discussed idealogically.

Case in point: immigration. People in the privileged group who know individuals from from the marginalized group. Because of that connection to someone who doesn't fit the stereotypes, they can who can easily make exceptions for those people while staying anchored idealogically to those (often negative) stereotypes.

Case in point: racism. People in the privileged group who know individuals from from the marginalized group. Because of that connection to someone who doesn't fit the stereotypes, they can who can easily make exceptions for those people while staying anchored idealogically to those (often negative) stereotypes.

Am I painting these views in a philosophical or idealogical light? Some may say so. Some may say I'm sweeping away the differences in each issue under the rug. I don't think so, as with the

It's easier to divide and separate and subjugate and demonize and oppress people when it's not up in their face. It's easier to lean into historical privileges to continue said exploitation and societal injustices.

I believe that's known as cognitive dissonance. When people hold contradictory beliefs.

In the instances that you talk about is very is to do and very common, unfortunately.

Though this is more about race (I really hate the word race while taking about this but I understand why it's used) I'll give another example.

Women's rights.

It's well known that those who protest abortion clinics have used the services themselves or their children have. Then happily go back to protesting in front of the same clinic they just used.

That is the very essence of privilege thinking.

It's mind-blowing but not surprising.

USA is a weird messy place.
 

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@N_LaRUE I have a question completely unrelated to COVID-19 or political protests.

Why do they use odd designations for paper sizes in Europe? Where did A4, A5, etc originate? I wanted to order Rhodia paper made in France. I had no clue what A4 or A5 were, nor the fact that A4 is larger than A5.

Why don't they simply state the size of the paper in cm? Here in the USA paper sizes are in inches, not alphanumeric codes. Even if paper from Europe is sold overseas, it would be fine to simply sell it by its dimensions in cm.
 

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@N_LaRUE I have a question completely unrelated to COVID-19 or political protests.

Why do they use odd designations for paper sizes in Europe? Where did A4, A5, etc originate? I wanted to order Rhodia paper made in France. I had no clue what A4 or A5 were, nor the fact that A4 is larger than A5.

Why don't they simply state the size of the paper in cm? Here in the USA paper sizes are in inches, not alphanumeric codes. Even if paper from Europe is sold overseas, it would be fine to simply sell it by its dimensions in cm.
There's a wiki on it.

But to save time...

A0 is the largest size. It's equal to 1m square.

Subsequent sizes are half the previous size.

So A1 is half A0, A2 is half A1, etc.

These are metric ISO standard sizes only North America and some Latin America countries use those imperial sizes.

Side note, A5 is a popular size for paperback books.

Sizes are typically in millimetres.
 
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Thank you for sharing these. It's very true. I have shared things. It feels weird to mention when I'm not in company that looks like me or mixed company with anyone that shares the same race as me, casually. Non-black friends have recently asked me how it feels to be a graduate and it was hard to answer. How could I answer that, without also acknowledging the heaviness that has come to light and occurred since then? It doesn't seem right to do one without the other.

It's a complex set of feelings, so the circle is probably the best way for me to describe it.
 

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Thank you for sharing these. It's very true. I have shared things. It feels weird to mention when I'm not in company that looks like me or mixed company with anyone that shares the same race as me, casually. Non-black friends have recently asked me how it feels to be a graduate and it was hard to answer. How could I answer that, without also acknowledging the heaviness that has come to light and occurred since then? It doesn't seem right to do one without the other.

It's a complex set of feelings, so the circle is probably the best way for me to describe it.
"Oh, you're so articulate". How many times have you heard that one? How many times have you wanted to kick their teeth in? My equivalent is " Oh, you speak such good English".
 

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Thank you for sharing these. It's very true. I have shared things. It feels weird to mention when I'm not in company that looks like me or mixed company with anyone that shares the same race as me, casually. Non-black friends have recently asked me how it feels to be a graduate and it was hard to answer. How could I answer that, without also acknowledging the heaviness that has come to light and occurred since then? It doesn't seem right to do one without the other.

It's a complex set of feelings, so the circle is probably the best way for me to describe it.
I don't use "race" - were all human race, even though some of us have philosophically will try to disagree. I prefer the term ethnicity as it for me better highlights the diversity that exists among humans. What we know as Hispanic, Caucasian, Asian Pacific Islander, African American, African, etc have more to do with the social ( humans made up) vs true science.
 

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"Oh, you're so articulate". How many times have you heard that one? How many times have you wanted to kick their teeth in? My equivalent is " Oh, you speak such good English".
For those who watched the stuff surrounding the British monarchy, one could argue that they were allowed to be comparatively dumb as rocks prior to Elizabeth II because their social standing offered them such luxury.

So that sort of mentality never surprised me. Maybe you were better off telling them:

"You speak such good American."
 

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"Oh, you're so articulate". How many times have you heard that one? How many times have you wanted to kick their teeth in? My equivalent is " Oh, you speak such good English".

I have heard it too many times, along with "oh why don't you have an accent" and of course, the good English comment.
 

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I don't use "race" - were all human race, even though some of us have philosophically will try to disagree. I prefer the term ethnicity as it for me better highlights the diversity that exists among humans. What we know as Hispanic, Caucasian, Asian Pacific Islander, African American, African, etc have more to do with the social ( humans made up) vs true science.

I get this and why you don't use race. I don't always use it either but it was fitting in this context. My ethnicity is even different among other black friends so in this point here, it hit harder to use it.
 

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I get this and why you don't use race. I don't always use it either but it was fitting in this context. My ethnicity is even different among other black friends so in this point here, it hit harder to use it.
And this is where you can drill down and do all sorts of specifics. If I'm around most black folks I identify by my birth origin. If I'm from people with the same birth origins, I can get geographically specific.

You know the context you were in though...different strokes for different folks.
 

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For those who watched the stuff surrounding the British monarchy, one could argue that they were allowed to be comparatively dumb as rocks prior to Elizabeth II because their social standing offered them such luxury.

So that sort of mentality never surprised me. Maybe you were better off telling them:

"You speak such good American."
Right? Them saltines think we all sound like Bob Marley or Tony Montana. What I've never been able to figure out is what region of England produced "Git r done Jethro". Maybe a mix of Welch and Cockney?
 

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And this is where you can drill down and do all sorts of specifics. If I'm around most black folks I identify by my birth origin. If I'm from people with the same birth origins, I can get geographically specific.

You know the context you were in though...different strokes for different folks.

That's so true. Since most of the time, I'm not around people that share those origins, usually saying that I'm Nigerian-American, when relevant is enough. It's usually other Nigerians that ask me where from and I tell them. Also as a plot twist, they are usually almost never where I am ethnically from LOL. There's a good population of us in this area but not really from the same group.

I'm not one of those who just says that I'm that, unless there's relevance. I'm also usually one of the darkest people in the room, if not the darkest. I'm going to stop here lol, because there's a lot I can say about my experiences, as I'm sure you can too.

As you said, it's just different strokes for different people.
 

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