WC 1M Post Challenge - You Ready?!

[MSFTisMIA]

I'm familiar with metric units, since I majored in biology and worked in chemistry for 11 years. All science courses and work used SI units of measurement.

The medical profession uses SI or SI derived units as well. Blood pressure has always been measured in mm Hg. Volume of liquid medication is in cc, aka ml. Mass of solid medication is in mg. When I go to my GP, body mass is noted in kg and temperature is noted in °C.

We love to buy our drugs of choice - both legal and illicit - in metric without any issues.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

Actually, only volume is different in the USA compared to the UK. Distance, etc are all the same.

I remember that. Don't mind me on this one. I grew up initially with the imperial and switched over to metric pretty seamlessly, being it was an old Brisitsh colony and all that. I use some mix in my day to day. Wish it were one but the mix of both is what I have to deal with.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

We had a survey to fill out. They're going to keep the social distancing rules at work for a while and create Agile workspaces which means no one has a cubicle anymore. Looks like July 19 is return to work date for me. Also our paycut goes away starting that day. Full travel ban is still in force so that is good at least from the family's perspective.

I'm glad your workspace decided to do a survey and get the staff input. I'm also glad to see the pay cut will go away.

 

[fatclue_98]

Actually, only volume is different in the USA compared to the UK. Distance, etc are all the same.

Don't forget statutory mile and nautical mile!!

 

[fatclue_98]

We love to buy our drugs of choice - both legal and illicit - in metric without any issues.

The running joke at a company I worked for was that for the "drug test" all you needed was knowing how to convert grams to ounces.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

The running joke at a company I worked for was that for the "drug test" all you needed was knowing how to convert grams to ounces.

Sounds about right.

 

[N_LaRUE]

Don't forget statutory mile and nautical mile!!

They're internationally set values.

I never use nautical mile (which is oddly metic) and the only time I used miles was when driving in the USA and UK.

I'm used to using both systems of imperial and metric. I just prefer metic because it's simple and easy to use.

I'd rather have something say 1525mm than 62" 1/4 or 62.25"

In my line of work metric just makes sense.

 

[Chuck Finley69]

I believe that's known as cognitive dissonance. When people hold contradictory beliefs.

In the instances that you talk about is very is to do and very common, unfortunately.

Though this is more about race (I really hate the word race while taking about this but I understand why it's used) I'll give another example.

Women's rights.

It's well known that those who protest abortion clinics have used the services themselves or their children have. Then happily go back to protesting in front of the same clinic they just used.

That is the very essence of privilege thinking.

It's mind-blowing but not surprising.

USA is a weird messy place.

That's not the best example.. I know some people from my kids' school that would protest. Since I was friends with them on social media, I would see them memorialize their participation on social media. The biggest protesters are people that have been personally affected. Either they or family members had abortion procedures done and it affected them into almost zealot status.

You're correct about cognitive dissonance though. I don't think it's limited to USA though. It's just the individualistic mindset has always created the contradictions. People came here for the freedom to live and then got mad at the Indians and their long established traditions.

I've been amazed on both sides of the spectrum. The conservatives and the liberals have been spouting way too long telling each other how to live. That's problem in general. Live and let the others live. Don't impose some perceived enlightenment on the perceived lower class.

Although I'm a Trump supporter and still am, I don't find the message from either side, anything that resonates with anything that I worry or care about.

But yes the USA is a weird CRAZY messy place....

 

[worldspy99]

Yes. That is more confusing. A pint of beer is bigger in the UK than in the USA.

And the imperal gallon is 4.54 liters and US gallon is 3.78 liters.

And the unit is based on weight of water at 62F which is 10 pounds for the imperial gallon and is 8.33 pounds for the US gallon.

Absolutely crazy way to set a standard.

 

[N_LaRUE]

That's not the best example.. I know some people from my kids' school that would protest. Since I was friends with them on social media, I would see them memorialize their participation on social media. The biggest protesters are people that have been personally affected. Either they or family members had abortion procedures done and it affected them into almost zealot status.

You're correct about cognitive dissonance though. I don't think it's limited to USA though. It's just the individualistic mindset has always created the contradictions. People came here for the freedom to live and then got mad at the Indians and their long established traditions.

I've been amazed on both sides of the spectrum. The conservatives and the liberals have been spouting way too long telling each other how to live. That's problem in general. Live and let the others live. Don't impose some perceived enlightenment on the perceived lower class.

Although I'm a Trump supporter and still am, I don't find the message from either side, anything that resonates with anything that I worry or care about.

But yes the USA is a weird CRAZY messy place....

I don't know how any decent normal sane person can support him. Especially now.

That has nothing to do with being liberal either. He's not a decent human being, he's sub human. Plain and simple.

Cognitive dissonance exists everywhere. It's not stuck to one particular place or one topic.

As for live and let live. Most people would be all for that unfortunately there's too many people wanting to impose their idea of values on other people.

Usually these people are highly religious and have views that are often at odds with pretty much anything that we can refer to as social norms. These people have an agenda to infiltrate the government and turn the USA into a Christian nation. Because they believed that's what it is and always has been. They are anti science, anti education, anti intellectualism, anti women's rights and typically racists on top of that.

That's not a liberal point view or a conspiracy theory that's a fact. It's been happening for decades.

That's why I'm against the anything to do with the GOP and their current leader. Their anti democratic agenda is destroying the USA.

Fortunately for me I'm not American but unfortunately that country affects everyone.

I do hope that the terrorist in the office is voted out before the US loses what little democracy is left.

 

[Chuck Finley69]

I don't know how any normal sane person can support him. Especially now.

That has nothing to do with being liberal either. He's not a decent human being, he's sub human. Plain and simple.

Cognitive dissonance exists everywhere. It not stuck to one particular place or one topic.

As for live and let live. Most people would be all for that unfortunately there's too many people wanting to impose their idea of values on other people.

Usually these people are highly religious and have views that are often at odds with pretty much anything that we can refer to as social norms. These people have an agenda to infiltrate the government and turn the USA into a Christian nation. Because they believed that's what it is and always has been. They are anti science, anti education, anti intellectualism, anti women's rights and typically racists on top of that.

That's not a liberal point view or a conspiracy theory that's a fact. It's been happening for decades.

That's why I'm against the anything to do with the GOP and their current leader. Their anti democratic agenda is destroying the USA.

Fortunately for me I'm not American but unfortunately that country affects everyone.

I do hope that the terrorist in the office is voted out before the US loses what little democracy is left.

Your viewpoints aren't supported by roughly 1/2 the citizens of this country during past elections over decades. Both parties vacilate across the political spectrum. The American people in the end are individual mindset that just care about themselves. Look at our riots now. In a pandemic, hijacking protests about murdered American citizen by a criminal police officer, to loot, burn, rob and steal from their fellow man.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

There is no such thing as truly "live and let live". If that's the case, it would be lawless.

What may be more acceptable is people just follow the laws...and to write (and enforce) the laws in such a way everyone is guaranteed certain basic rights that are free of social (slavery based) bias.

I live in "a post modern society" where my skin tone (which is based in biology) has certain social baggages (defined by other people for inequality purposes). I'm not in a position to wax poetic on this reality: I can encounter individuals in jobs with a certain level of authority (example, police) with certain bias that can lean on a combination of certain colonial privileges and how they feel that day TO USE EITHER LEGAL POWERS OR LEGAL FORCE TO RUIN MY LIFE AT MINIMUM OR END MY LIFE AT WORST no matter how COMPLIANT I am, no matter WHERE I am.

I don't have to make that up. Many others who look like me experience a similar reality.

Unless people who do not or think they cannot (but aren't really exempt) experience reality are willing to just shut up (no what about isms) and acknowledge that stuff exists, then we won't get anywhere. People need to stop hiding behind their privilege, whether real or perceived.

 

[Chuck Finley69]

There is no such thing as truly "live and let live". If that's the case, it would be lawless.

What may be more acceptable is people just follow the laws...and to write (and enforce) the laws in such a way everyone is guaranteed certain basic rights that are free of social (slavery based) bias.

I live in "a post modern society" where my skin tone (which is based in biology) has certain social baggages (defined by other people for inequality purposes). I'm not in a position to wax poetic on this reality: I can encounter individuals in jobs with a certain level of authority (example, police) with certain bias that can lean on a combination of certain colonial privileges and how they feel that day TO USE EITHER LEGAL POWERS OR LEGAL FORCE TO RUIN MY LIFE AT MINIMUM OR END MY LIFE AT WORST no matter how COMPLIANT I am, no matter WHERE I am.

I don't have to make that up. Many others who look like me experience a similar reality.

Unless people who do not or think they cannot (but aren't really exempt) experience reality are willing to just shut up (no what about isms) and acknowledge that stuff exists, then we won't get anywhere. People need to stop hiding behind their privilege, whether real or perceived.

Racism exists across the pigment spectrum. Let's fix that as country. I grew up in a lower income primarily black and brown neighborhood in the early 70s where everyone in my neighborhood was bussed out of you attended public school. I've experienced all types of ethnicism and racism from all sides my entire life. Usually I'm mistaken for Mexican but that's beside the point.

I believe the ultimate that I can do is see NO color and truly and genuinely treat every human being equal as preached by MLK, Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela similar role models across ethnicities. I've been profiled but refuse to ever let them see me react. My driving habits mean that I'm constantly being followed and I do get pulled over more than I probably should. I've been on the hood of my car more than once in my 20s-30s for suspicious activity. Ive gotten better at my age, I just turned 50 and need to keep my borderline HBP in check.

 

[Chuck Finley69]

Side note,

Beware of what seems to be concentrated phishing attempts from "Costco" via SMS about "receipt" with download link.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

Racism exists across the pigment spectrum. Let's fix that as country. I grew up in a lower income primarily black and brown neighborhood in the early 70s where everyone in my neighborhood was bussed out of you attended public school. I've experienced all types of ethnicism and racism from all sides my entire life. Usually I'm mistaken for Mexican but that's beside the point.

I believe the ultimate that I can do is see NO color and truly and genuinely treat every human being equal as preached by MLK, Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela similar role models across ethnicities. I've been profiled but refuse to ever let them see me react. My driving habits mean that I'm constantly being followed and I do get pulled over more than I probably should. I've been on the hood of my car more than once in my 20s-30s for suspicious activity. Ive gotten better at my age, I just turned 50 and need to keep my borderline HBP in check.

To fix racism, it has to be acknowledged first. That is my point. It's still not being acknowledged. That's one point some of those who are peacefully protesting are trying to make. Until the privileged acknowledge that, including the forms said racism exists, no fixing can be done.

It took 400 years of FOCUSED intent to design a system to get us to this point. It will require a similar sort of focus to both undo this and implement something more equal. Not this "we're in 2020 (insert token example) we're past that" horse.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

Racism exists across the pigment spectrum. Let's fix that as country. I grew up in a lower income primarily black and brown neighborhood in the early 70s where everyone in my neighborhood was bussed out of you attended public school. I've experienced all types of ethnicism and racism from all sides my entire life. Usually I'm mistaken for Mexican but that's beside the point.

I believe the ultimate that I can do is see NO color and truly and genuinely treat every human being equal as preached by MLK, Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela similar role models across ethnicities. I've been profiled but refuse to ever let them see me react. My driving habits mean that I'm constantly being followed and I do get pulled over more than I probably should. I've been on the hood of my car more than once in my 20s-30s for suspicious activity. Ive gotten better at my age, I just turned 50 and need to keep my borderline HBP in check.

My coworker two years ago was on a community visit with one of his clients where he had to diffuse a situation where his client and another resident got into a very heated argument. NYPD was called. He had his ID, identified himself clearly, and even stood between the cops and the client. Of the three cops that show up (because once a call goes out for someone with emotional distress they don't show up alone), one was a cowboy Joe who kept antagonizing the client. If his other coworkers didn't reign him in, he'd have likely shot my coworker and the client. My coworker has two boys, 4 y.o. and a 4 month old. Had he been killed then, his wife (Hispanic) would have been widowed with their only son. As a side note, she never "used to see color" when dating him but she saw it once their son was born.

We can have a Richard-swinging contest talking about examples all day. Whether you be faced down on the hood for your car or my colleague at work, it doesn't change the point that racism was involved in those situations to the point where it could have easily turned deadly. And would have been "justified" by the cops who would have put you or my coworker in a pine box and went home to drink beer and sleep soundly.

If you want to go about your day not seeing color, go ahead. There are those of us who are working hard to make that stuff an actual, practical reality in way you'll have that freedom of choice. It isn't about whether or nor you can choose not to see color - the overall system still sees color in you. That's my point.

 

[N_LaRUE]

As I'm not affected (meaning I'm a white guy) it's virtually impossible for me to even understand these situations.

It's tragic and the system is broken. Not just in the USA either.

I'm sure you're aware where I stand on this. Racism makes no sense to me at all.

As they say, acknowledging the issue is the first step. With the current leadership I don't see that happening.

 

[fatclue_98]

Racism exists across the pigment spectrum. Let's fix that as country. I grew up in a lower income primarily black and brown neighborhood in the early 70s where everyone in my neighborhood was bussed out of you attended public school. I've experienced all types of ethnicism and racism from all sides my entire life. Usually I'm mistaken for Mexican but that's beside the point.

I believe the ultimate that I can do is see NO color and truly and genuinely treat every human being equal as preached by MLK, Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela similar role models across ethnicities. I've been profiled but refuse to ever let them see me react. My driving habits mean that I'm constantly being followed and I do get pulled over more than I probably should. I've been on the hood of my car more than once in my 20s-30s for suspicious activity. Ive gotten better at my age, I just turned 50 and need to keep my borderline HBP in check.

And after all that you still support Trump. I don't know if that's a statement or a question, you can decide on your own.

 

[libra89]

Finnished all my written exams in this telecommunications course. This is probably one of those courses that I liked the least.

Now waiting for the results. If I get enough points I won't have to do the final test. That's what I'm hoping for.

You did it! I hope you don't have to do the final test.

 

[libra89]

As I'm not affected (meaning I'm a white guy) it's virtually impossible for me to even I understand these situations.

It's tragic and the system is broken. Not just in the USA either.

I'm sure you're aware where I stand on this. Racism makes no sense to me at all.

As they say, acknowledging the issue is the first step. With the current leadership I don't see that happening.

At least you are trying to understand, that helps. You're not here saying that it doesn't exist anymore...