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They argue that people should have known that there were not enough mask for everyone and that they were kept for medical workers. I can not disagree more.
Dude, you quite literally saw hordes of people fighting over a toilet paper, wonder what they'd do for something that's supposedly able to keep them alive?

They're drastically oversimplifying things here to the point where they're making it like they were 100% reasonable and the government is to blame for everything that's happened. They seem to be forgetting all the 'communism fighters' on the streets, standing against the measures and 'fighting for freedom'.

I think this is the definition of a saying "captain after the battle".

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I was just annoyed. Sometimes you got to just cut it loose and speak from a place of actual information can be vetted and anecdotal profession experience. I selectively posted information from a professional training I attended yesterday. The stats of COVID-19 are so fresh in these studies quoted by the presenter it's not even funny.

I don't like to speak out of my backside on things like these. I don't like to talk specifics about work because of the respect I have for what people are experiencing and to give them the decency and dignity they deserve.

But sometimes you just have the swing the machete around and cut through the .

This is why I'm as tired as I am at times. This is why when management acts bone headed it annoys me...i am expected to still be successful in this type of environment. Heh.

So no actual solution for all those people that don't have your luxury of doing your job from where you live.

People drinking bleach. You can't fix stupid. Better start finding solutions instead of anger that system is the system.

Imagine starting up your venture before all this happened where there's no salary and PTO ever, Covid-19 or not.

You speak in some abstract regarding and blaming the system but don't have a solution for what could be done and still keep people and employment income flowing.

FYI - both my first wife and current wife are essentials. My first wife is 20 year RN in TGH, former public hospital that went private. My daughter and her son risked Covid-19 exposure and still do.

How long could you do your job without getting paid? Unfortunately, it's always going to be about the almighty dollar. That's always been the case

Just look at how the last administration fumbled what should have been 12-18 month recession fix and instead allowed it to become the great recession focusing on the wrong priorities for political reasons.

You also seem to believe that education is somehow the door to enlightenment and should lead to and guarantee success. I had a good friend in Miami that believed that. Couldn't find a job. Blamed it on being a white guy and everyone minority hiring.

Had a bachelor degree and did the CFP which could be converted into Master's degree once passing CFP exam. All he did was rail against the broken system and reverse discrimination. When I struggled and hit a rough patch, I took extra job. He said education should help prevent that. I disagreed and did the second job. I told him my degree from the school of hard knocks is why I had a job and he didn't.

Again solutions... Everybody had to make some money, be safe with precautions. Covid-19 would be killing people just like everything from car accidents, cancer and the lowly flu. People die every year. The grim reaper eventually comes for everybody.

Meant to ask before, what's your educational background? I feel like you think my degree from the University of Experience means I'm uneducated. There's no degree requirements in my field. Just passing licensing requirements and outdialing the other guys around me for 10-12 hours is what I did to survive my first year and thereafter.

BTW - the Freesom protestors and BLM protestors look the same to me. Aren't they protesting for civil liberties guaranteed on paper to everyone but selectively enforced? Are you suggesting all protesting should not be allowed right now?
 
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Just look at how the last administration fumbled what should have been 12-18 month recession fix and instead allowed it to become the great recession focusing on the wrong priorities for political reasons.
You mean the administration before the last administration. That one took a budget surplus leftover from his predecessor and turned it into the Great Clusterf**k of 2008.



I had a good friend in Miami that believed that. Couldn't find a job. Blamed it on being a white guy and everyone minority hiring.
If your white friend in Miami is not fluent in Spanish then we both know a Magna *** Laude from Oxford wouldn't get him past Julio for the fryer position at Pollo Tropical. That's demographics
 

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So no actual solution for all those people that don't have your luxury of doing your job from where you live.

People drinking bleach. You can't fix stupid. Better start finding solutions instead of anger that system is the system.

Imagine starting up your venture before all this happened where there's no salary and PTO ever, Covid-19 or not.

You speak in some abstract regarding and blaming the system but don't have a solution for what could be done and still keep people and employment income flowing.

FYI - both my first wife and current wife are essentials. My first wife is 20 year RN in TGH, former public hospital that went private. My daughter and her son risked Covid-19 exposure and still do.

How long could you do your job without getting paid? Unfortunately, it's always going to be about the almighty dollar. That's always been the case

Just look at how the last administration fumbled what should have been 12-18 month recession fix and instead allowed it to become the great recession focusing on the wrong priorities for political reasons.

You also seem to believe that education is somehow the door to enlightenment and should lead to and guarantee success. I had a good friend in Miami that believed that. Couldn't find a job. Blamed it on being a white guy and everyone minority hiring.

Had a bachelor degree and did the CFP which could be converted into Master's degree once passing CFP exam. All he did was rail against the broken system and reverse discrimination. When I struggled and hit a rough patch, I took extra job. He said education should help prevent that. I disagreed and did the second job. I told him my degree from the school of hard knocks is why I had a job and he didn't.

Again solutions... Everybody had to make some money, be safe with precautions. Covid-19 would be killing people just like everything from car accidents, cancer and the lowly flu. People die every year. The grim reaper eventually comes for everybody.

Meant to ask before, what's your educational background? I feel like you think my degree from the University of Experience means I'm uneducated. There's no degree requirements in my field. Just passing licensing requirements and outdialing the other guys around me for 10-12 hours is what I did to survive my first year and thereafter.

BTW - the Freesom protestors and BLM protestors look the same to me. Aren't they protesting for civil liberties guaranteed on paper to everyone but selectively enforced? Are you suggesting all protesting should not be allowed right now?
You're doing this again with the picture. You should really take time to learn how when you don't use your words the right way you come off as less smart or aware than you actually are.

1) Use a search engine and look up what the requirements are to become a licensed social worker. You can start in your state of Florida. I'm not here to do that for you.

2) My girlfriend is essential worker. She's a medical assistant in a primary clinic and physically has to go into the clinic to take care of patients. We've discussed how we need to handle certain things on top of what the clinic protocol is. Neither of us looks forward to her work days but she cannot stay home.

3) You're new in these parts. I'm working at 50% capacity by being at home. I work in person, and closely with my pts. There's a lot of things I cannot do as well because I'm not physically out there as before.

4) I've openly discussed my journey through my training here long before you showed up. I cosign my own loans and pay my own way. While I've acknowledged that there is a sliver of privilege I may have, it has been earned and there's a ton of responsibility and pressure and obligation that comes with that - which I talk about here. I'm not ******** when it looks like I'm complaining. I'm talking about the unrealistic expectations to help individuals in a system that isn't designed to truly help them.

4) I'm not here to force feed or suggest to you a solution to address the issues to keep essential workers safe that's to your liking. If I was an elected official, I'd be doing that. That's why we have elected officials who should be working in concert with business leaders and medical experts to craft solutions. It is why the federal government has certain powers and should be taking a proactive, leading role in a pandemic. Instead we have this lassiez-faire .

5) Some of the people who died during this pandemic did so NEEDLESSLY, including front line workers. Some of the people who are sick in the pandemic are sick needlessly - those who feel their liberties are being violated when medical professionals are telling them to stay home when appropriate and follow safety instructions.

6) No here has dismissed anyone's life experiences, including yours. The point I have made is that these problems are super complex, layered and long standing. If simplistic solutions and outlooks like what you've proposed could have solved these problems, it would have happened already. You cannot use life experiences alone to look at these issues, because not everyone has the same life experiences.

6) In order to solve a problem, one clearly has to understand it first. I've never seen anyone try to fix any problem every without doing that. If you don't want to fully understand these problems, that's on you. Don't drag me into that.

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Seeing death up close and personal at work and Chuck has the nerve to talk about me "speaking from some abstract place".

Bruh. You're really not reading what I wrote.

Not here to do no Richard swinging contest about trauma or public health policy. Gotta do better that that.
 

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You're doing this again with the picture. You should really take time to learn how when you don't use your words the right way you come off as less smart or aware than you actually are.

1) Use a search engine and look up what the requirements are to become a licensed social worker. You can start in your state of Florida. I'm not here to do thay for you.

2) My girlfriend is essential worker. She's a medical assistant in a primary clinic and physically has to go into the clinic to take care of patients. We've discussed how we need to handle certain things on top of what the clinic protocol is. Neither of us looks forward to her work days but she cannot stay home.

3) You're new in these parts. I'm working at 50% capacity by being at home. I work in person, and closely with my pts. There's a lot of things I cannot do as well because I'm not physically out there as before.

4) I've openly discussed my journey through my training here long before you showed up. I cosign my own loans and pay my own way. While I've acknowledged that there is a sliver of privilege I may have, it has been earned and there's a ton of responsibility and pressure and obligation that comes with that - which I talk about here. I'm not ******** when it looks like I'm complaining. I'm talking about the unrealistic expectations to help individuals in a system that isn't designed to truly help them.

4) I'm not here to force feed or suggest to you a solution to address the issues to keep essential workers safe that's to your liking. If I was an elected official, I'd be doing that. That's why we have elected officials who should be working in concert with business leaders and medical experts to craft solutions. It is why the federal government has certain powers and should be taking a proactive, leading role in a pandemic. Instead we have this lassiez-faire .

5) Some of the people who died during this pandemic did so NEEDLESSLY, including front line workers. Some of the people who are sick in the pandemic are sick needlessly - those who feel their liberties are being violated when medical professionals are telling them to stay home when appropriate and follow safety instructions.

6) No here has dismissed anyone's life experiences, including yours. The point I have made is that these problems are super complex, layered and long standing. If simplistic solutions and outlooks like what you've proposed could have solved these problems, it would have happened already. You cannot use life experiences alone to look at these issues, because not everyone has the same life experiences.

6) In order to solve a problem, one clearly has to understand it first. I've never seen anyone try to fix any problem every without doing that. If you don't want to fully understand these problems, that's on you. Don't drag me into that.

Try again. View attachment 142421

Understanding the problem is only half the battle. Identifying and finding the root cause are the other half. As a former ASE Certified mechanic my training and mindset dictates that I can diagnose and find said root causes and recommend a remedy. But my client may not be able to afford it. That’s where we are right now.

We all know what the issues are and how to make them go away, but politicians and administrators can’t afford the repairs. The politicians can’t afford the blowback from their constituents if the remedies contain any social “entitlements” that could be labeled as pandering to the left. Administrators can’t afford the blowback from the bean counters and/or the shareholders. Meanwhile, people like you and your lady have to press on without a paddle and not much of a creek.
 

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Understanding the problem is only half the battle. Identifying and finding the root cause are the other half. As a former ASE Certified mechanic my training and mindset dictates that I can diagnose and find said root causes and recommend a remedy. But my client may not be able to afford it. That’s where we are right now.

We all know what the issues are and how to make them go away, but politicians and administrators can’t afford the repairs. The politicians can’t afford the blowback from their constituents if the remedies contain any social “entitlements” that could be labeled as pandering to the left. Administrators can’t afford the blowback from the bean counters and/or the shareholders. Meanwhile, people like you and your lady have to press on without a paddle and not much of a creek.
In my line of work trained to do the same: understanding the issue and identifying the root cause - then research and present options.

What you said was dead on. I know this and keep my mouth shut and do what I can. It still means though that we have to push the elected officials to handle their business.

I'm no just in the mood to go back and forth with people on a forum who don't want to research first to provide education. I have enough of that to do on the clock.
 
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@fatclue_98 @MSFTisMIA both of y'all are deserving of a mic drop for those statements.
I hope the gif I attached, works lol.

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You mean the administration before the last administration. That one took a budget surplus leftover from his predecessor and turned it into the Great Clusterf**k of 2008.

If your white friend in Miami is not fluent in Spanish then we both know a Magna *** Laude from Oxford wouldn't get him past Julio for the fryer position at Pollo Tropical. That's demographics

I understand that and he’s been married to a Peruvian for 25+ years. But he can’t let go to admit he’s part of his own problem.
 

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You're doing this again with the picture. You should really take time to learn how when you don't use your words the right way you come off as less smart or aware than you actually are.

1) Use a search engine and look up what the requirements are to become a licensed social worker. You can start in your state of Florida. I'm not here to do that for you.

2) My girlfriend is essential worker. She's a medical assistant in a primary clinic and physically has to go into the clinic to take care of patients. We've discussed how we need to handle certain things on top of what the clinic protocol is. Neither of us looks forward to her work days but she cannot stay home.

3) You're new in these parts. I'm working at 50% capacity by being at home. I work in person, and closely with my pts. There's a lot of things I cannot do as well because I'm not physically out there as before.

4) I've openly discussed my journey through my training here long before you showed up. I cosign my own loans and pay my own way. While I've acknowledged that there is a sliver of privilege I may have, it has been earned and there's a ton of responsibility and pressure and obligation that comes with that - which I talk about here. I'm not ******** when it looks like I'm complaining. I'm talking about the unrealistic expectations to help individuals in a system that isn't designed to truly help them.

4) I'm not here to force feed or suggest to you a solution to address the issues to keep essential workers safe that's to your liking. If I was an elected official, I'd be doing that. That's why we have elected officials who should be working in concert with business leaders and medical experts to craft solutions. It is why the federal government has certain powers and should be taking a proactive, leading role in a pandemic. Instead we have this lassiez-faire .

5) Some of the people who died during this pandemic did so NEEDLESSLY, including front line workers. Some of the people who are sick in the pandemic are sick needlessly - those who feel their liberties are being violated when medical professionals are telling them to stay home when appropriate and follow safety instructions.

6) No here has dismissed anyone's life experiences, including yours. The point I have made is that these problems are super complex, layered and long standing. If simplistic solutions and outlooks like what you've proposed could have solved these problems, it would have happened already. You cannot use life experiences alone to look at these issues, because not everyone has the same life experiences.

6) In order to solve a problem, one clearly has to understand it first. I've never seen anyone try to fix any problem every without doing that. If you don't want to fully understand these problems, that's on you. Don't drag me into that.

Try again. View attachment 142421

That’s a lot to answer on my iPhone between clients and my daughter shopping. I’ll reply later..
 

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That’s a lot to answer on my iPhone between clients and my daughter shopping. I’ll reply later..
At this point, don't bother. I'm really done with this conversation.

After 6.5 years in this thread and having had the same type of conversation with quite a few people here who do things exactly like you previously, it's just time to put this away and do something else.
 

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At this point, don't bother. I'm really done with this conversation.

After 6.5 years in this thread and having had the same type of conversation with quite a few people here who do things exactly like you previously, it's just time to put this away and do something else.

Wow, I had no idea this thread was here for long. Y'all say long, and I thought like 5 years at most. You have seen a lot, surely.
 

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