What is going to convince Android/IOS users to get Windows phone in the future?

[Mad Cabbie]

As I mentioned in a previous thread, be careful what you wish for with regards to Apps.

Yes, Android has many, many apps, but has anyone actually looked at them? If you type in the name of an app (mainly games), you will get a plethora of 'duplicates'. Try 2048. If you remove all the duplicates, which surely erode some poor developers 'intellectual rights', you are left with the original. This happens for most games apps.

Yes we do need a better store, but lets be careful what we wish for. We desperately need a few google apps. Youtube being a priority ( for me ), Google maps would be nice!

When people by a phone, it's very rarely the OS that sells it. My best mate works for a UK retailer, CPW, and 99% of phones sold are because they are the latest all singing, all dancing 'fashion' accessories that Samdung, LG or Crapple produce. Most people don't know what's under the hood when they buy a new phone. The big phone companies are trying to re-invent the wheel, over and over again. S6, S6 curve, S6 curve XL, ibone 6, ibone 6 xl again......and again......

I came to WP because I was sick of android. Whenever I wanted my device to do what I WANTED, I ended up cooking roms, but then Samdung invented the knox fuse to avoid any warranty claims!! Even if a button fell off, they would try their best to wriggle out of it.

WM10 needs full integration with desktop and XBOX. MS have two of the biggest products out there, and integration is needed. People NEED to experience WP integrated with their 'home' devices, and the office environment. WP also need to be a bit 'sexier' to attract the fashionista's, and allow bragging rights, over their mates.

I love my 640xl! I dropped down from a 930 as it didn't have the glance, and as a cabbie, I need that to see missed calls etc because MS, in their infinate wisdom, never added notification LEDs

It's a long road, but hopefully WP can gain enough traction to warrant further development.

 

[jhildy73]

From androids......the cost of the high end phones that continue to come out and still have lag/memory problems! One of the reasons I put using an android phone behind me. Although I continue to use android on a tablet for basic media and 1 game.

This....i owned a LG g2 ,g3 and galaxy s4. All of them would lag after a certain number of apps installed.battery life would significantly be reduced with a number of apps installed... Sure you can install roms but they had their own issues unless it was a COMPLETELY vanilla rom. After 4 years with Android I finally got tired of having to greenify apps and messing With wakelocks and a unstable OS... Pretty sad when these phones are running 2.3 QUAD core processors with 2 even 3 gigs of ram...
the thing I love about windows phone is the memory management and the stability of windows phone.minus clash of clans and BoA app I'm not missing anything from android.

 

[jhildy73]

Android users? Maybe.

iOS users won't switch. Once you get an iPhone, you're too committed to all the sunk costs of various cables, docks, paid apps and third party accessories, to switch to anything else.
Plus, iMessage.

Lol this made me laugh because it's true.

 

[jhildy73]

Bump

 

[skt_diaz]

Just hope w10 mobile fixes the app problem.
Official Facebook and twitter apps are a pain to use.
Clash of clans is another app i sorely miss

 

[FirstWatt]

Yeah, Microsoft is working hard to convince iOS and Android users to STAY with their OS:

Microsoft releases its new Snap to Pin app for Android - Microsoft News
"Microsoft releases its new Snap to Pin app for Android" - NO app for Windows

Skype for Android and iOS gets a new design with the latest update - Microsoft News
"Skype for Android and iOS gets a new design with the latest update"
Yeah, Skype for W10 is fixed, there is a Modern UI version and now they can shift workload to the other platforms - Oh wait...

This is hilarious!!
Please vote here:
https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/...0-microsoft-s-own-apps-should-target-wp-first

 

[mariusmuntean]

as how awful the new supposed flagships look and how bad win10 still is, I do not forsee too many switching to wp. sorry but continuum is not a wow factor..really, apps are at the most, quality of apps, dev support on those apps which mean good and freq. updates, not only minor as I see now.


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[mariusmuntean]

As I mentioned in a previous thread, be careful what you wish for with regards to Apps.

Yes, Android has many, many apps, but has anyone actually looked at them? If you type in the name of an app (mainly games), you will get a plethora of 'duplicates'. Try 2048. If you remove all the duplicates, which surely erode some poor developers 'intellectual rights', you are left with the original. This happens for most games apps.

Yes we do need a better store, but lets be careful what we wish for. We desperately need a few google apps. Youtube being a priority ( for me ), Google maps would be nice!

When people by a phone, it's very rarely the OS that sells it. My best mate works for a UK retailer, CPW, and 99% of phones sold are because they are the latest all singing, all dancing 'fashion' accessories that Samdung, LG or Crapple produce. Most people don't know what's under the hood when they buy a new phone. The big phone companies are trying to re-invent the wheel, over and over again. S6, S6 curve, S6 curve XL, ibone 6, ibone 6 xl again......and again......

I came to WP because I was sick of android. Whenever I wanted my device to do what I WANTED, I ended up cooking roms, but then Samdung invented the knox fuse to avoid any warranty claims!! Even if a button fell off, they would try their best to wriggle out of it.

WM10 needs full integration with desktop and XBOX. MS have two of the biggest products out there, and integration is needed. People NEED to experience WP integrated with their 'home' devices, and the office environment. WP also need to be a bit 'sexier' to attract the fashionista's, and allow bragging rights, over their mates.

I love my 640xl! I dropped down from a 930 as it didn't have the glance, and as a cabbie, I need that to see missed calls etc because MS, in their infinate wisdom, never added notification LEDs

It's a long road, but hopefully WP can gain enough traction to warrant further development.

why on earth would you want the official youtube app?? where you do not have background play unless you pay ) 3rd party youtube apps are way better and wp honestly has some great ones.


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[manders500]

I just traded my Icon for Edge 6+ and while the apps are far better, I miss the OS. There is some things that are just annoying with this thing and Windows 10m is smoother. If I am listening to music, Android lowers the music volume to play the notification sound. I hate that. I thought that I missed SwiftKey, nope! Windows keyboard is way better! The edge app crashes and I need to reboot to get it back. I will switch back to Windows when and if the apps on Windows mature.

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[mariusmuntean]

with such trash devices on the go: aka 950/950xl, I do not think many will jump ship to windows phone.

 

[Queen Kong1]

I switched from a Lumia 822 to a Galaxy S5 and was amazed what I was missing all these years. With Cortana now available, there really isn't a Microsoft service I am missing from Lumia 822. The ability to bank on my phone, pay for my Startbucks and have an actual working and functional music player is so refreshing on my Android phone. It is about apps. I don't think the high end phones are going to help the situation- Microsoft is too far behind to catch up. Here is my prediction of what will happen. Next Spring Microsoft will base Windows mobile off of Android, include it's own custom tile launcher, and join forces with Amazon for their app store. Amazon needs something since their own phone flopped and Microsoft needs apps, win/win situation to me.

I think Android Cortana doesn't do everything, reminders but not quite hours?....How does Cortana work on Droid? does it chew battery

 

[Tien-Lin Chang]

I think Android Cortana doesn't do everything, reminders but not quite hours?....How does Cortana work on Droid? does it chew battery

I am thrilled to tell you that quiet hour is available as basic function in both android and ios, means they don't require you to change region and reboot just to activate Cortana to enable quiet hour for an uninterrupted sleep

Being in a region that Cortana is not available. I really doubt the IQ of MSFT develop team to link quiet hour to Cortana like we WP users in the non-Cortana region don't deserve a good sleep with our phone nearby to wake us up in the morning.

 

[Queen Kong1]

I am thrilled to tell you that quiet hour is available as basic function in both android and ios, means they don't require you to change region and reboot just to activate Cortana to enable quiet hour for an uninterrupted sleep

Being in a region that Cortana is not available. I really doubt the IQ of MSFT develop team to link quiet hour to Cortana like we WP users in the non-Cortana region don't deserve a good sleep with our phone nearby to wake us up in the morning.

I checked friends Cortana, it's not on there in Android weird, very basic Cortana though. Also it doesn't have ability to text someone your busy.

 

[mariusmuntean]

if you think Cortana being more usefull on wp, will gather more users )) you are mistaking..and yes, basic quiet hours should be working no matter cortana is activated or not! change the region for quiet hours...what moron programmed this?


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[MrGoodSmith]

The WP platform is the least privacy-invasive platform compared to iPhone and Android, and the least affected by malware and viruses. Couple of days ago I received a spam message from a contact who is using an iPhone and it was sent without her acknowledgment from her phone.

 

[ohlumia]

Let's follow a proper path here, first Microsoft goes after BB, then they can talk Android. Even Android flagships lag, the cheap ones don't stand a chance against Windows performance wise. People that just need a basic smartphone won't mind jumping around, anyone looking at flagships is going to be somewhat invested in the iOS or Android ecosystem and the more time passes by, the harder it becomes, these people aren't going to just give up the 100s of $s they have dumped into the App Store and the google play store...
Windows not only need hero and low end devices, but it also needs the fringe ones like the Lumia 1020. The iPhone has become ubiquitous, it's like OSX trying to take on Windows - it's going to get a market share for sure but taking over, that's going to be a long and hard battle. Apple has actually done fairly decently at it since putting out the aluminum macs over 10 years ago..,
Windows phone needs to stop d!cking around (reboots ever 12 months...) and set a course. Microsoft I believe assumed the partners were going to push Windows phone like they did Android, none of the partners pushed it, they all pushed their android offerings instead...
We've got enough history to know that the best doesn't always win in a competition, betamax vs vhs, os2 vs windows xxxx, 3dfx (back in Voodoo1 and 2 days) vs nvidia...
Look at Android today, it's fat, slow, unpolished, unfinished, is a memory hog, crashes, etc... but hey who cares, that's accepted these days.

Despite all the things people say about Apple, I have to say that I have an iPad 2 that's been used and discharged almost since we purchased it day 1 back in 2011 ... it still runs for 10+ hours on a charge...
That is some ridiculous battery engineering. Even better, the OS still works, everything that's supposed to work on it works on it. I haven't had the need to upgrade it. In the meantime, I've gone through a bunch of Android phones and tablets... No hardware seems to be good enough to keep Android smooth and stutter free.
On the same notes, my lumia 1520 is 1 year old and I had to replace the battery out of pocket.
While a lot of us love to hate on iOS and apple devices, you can't argue about their engineering, A lot of people know this. I have people running white MacBooks as their internet device still, these things just don't die.
While the iPad is quite restricted, a lot of the restrictions can be lifted with the right apps.

I digress, there is a chance that frustrated Android users will switch but iOS, maybe in 10 years when Microsoft has succeeded in building an image of something different than the iPhone (+ ecosystem) and that can stand on its own (+ecosystem). The solution is definitely not just phones with specs matching the competition. It's gotta be a long term strategy that will settle windows mobile as a viable choice, perhaps the only choice in some specific situations.
I think Nokia was on to something with the cameras, sadly that advantage is gone, hardware is just not good enough these days unless you're going to be doing force touch or note pen.
There needs to be innovation, I'm not sure if Continuum is it or not, I'm pretty sure iris scanner isn't though.

Cheers,

 

[akshaypn]

Nothing.. And forget about Android and iOS users, WP users for last many years will leave this burning platform.

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[anon(8532178)]

Let's follow a proper path here, first Microsoft goes after BB, then they can talk Android. Even Android flagships lag, the cheap ones don't stand a chance against Windows performance wise. People that just need a basic smartphone won't mind jumping around, anyone looking at flagships is going to be somewhat invested in the iOS or Android ecosystem and the more time passes by, the harder it becomes, these people aren't going to just give up the 100s of $s they have dumped into the App Store and the google play store...
Windows not only need hero and low end devices, but it also needs the fringe ones like the Lumia 1020. The iPhone has become ubiquitous, it's like OSX trying to take on Windows - it's going to get a market share for sure but taking over, that's going to be a long and hard battle. Apple has actually done fairly decently at it since putting out the aluminum macs over 10 years ago..,
Windows phone needs to stop d!cking around (reboots ever 12 months...) and set a course. Microsoft I believe assumed the partners were going to push Windows phone like they did Android, none of the partners pushed it, they all pushed their android offerings instead...
We've got enough history to know that the best doesn't always win in a competition, betamax vs vhs, os2 vs windows xxxx, 3dfx (back in Voodoo1 and 2 days) vs nvidia...
Look at Android today, it's fat, slow, unpolished, unfinished, is a memory hog, crashes, etc... but hey who cares, that's accepted these days.

Despite all the things people say about Apple, I have to say that I have an iPad 2 that's been used and discharged almost since we purchased it day 1 back in 2011 ... it still runs for 10+ hours on a charge...
That is some ridiculous battery engineering. Even better, the OS still works, everything that's supposed to work on it works on it. I haven't had the need to upgrade it. In the meantime, I've gone through a bunch of Android phones and tablets... No hardware seems to be good enough to keep Android smooth and stutter free.
On the same notes, my lumia 1520 is 1 year old and I had to replace the battery out of pocket.
While a lot of us love to hate on iOS and apple devices, you can't argue about their engineering, A lot of people know this. I have people running white MacBooks as their internet device still, these things just don't die.
While the iPad is quite restricted, a lot of the restrictions can be lifted with the right apps.

I digress, there is a chance that frustrated Android users will switch but iOS, maybe in 10 years when Microsoft has succeeded in building an image of something different than the iPhone (+ ecosystem) and that can stand on its own (+ecosystem). The solution is definitely not just phones with specs matching the competition. It's gotta be a long term strategy that will settle windows mobile as a viable choice, perhaps the only choice in some specific situations.
I think Nokia was on to something with the cameras, sadly that advantage is gone, hardware is just not good enough these days unless you're going to be doing force touch or note pen.
There needs to be innovation, I'm not sure if Continuum is it or not, I'm pretty sure iris scanner isn't though.

Cheers,

You forgot HD DVD vs Blu Ray lol.

 

[Francis Amar Singh]

I was windows mobile user since 2002 and now I am using Android for a week now and happy with it too.. which I never thought.. all I needed was a decent windows phone device... as my 1020 died and I do not want to buy a mid range device, and after using Android for a week now I am thinking of getting Xperia z5... Microsoft lots of talk, lots of lost money not lots of great devices... very dissapointed...

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[mariusmuntean]

no one wants wp to die, but MS should get their heads on their shoulders and decide for once the path. too many os reborns


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