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  1. pgDarkness's Avatar
    The current build on RP ring is 14393.103. So, no updates
    About the scaling issue you might have to wait for the next build to see if it fixes or not.
    Yes, but I'm stuck at 10.0.14393.67. My question is how can I get from 14393.67 to 14393.103?
    I did try those 2 steps I described but no updates! (redo "System requirements -> Windows 10" section of the guide and joining RP ring)

    The scaling issue didn't get fixed with 14393.103?
    Last edited by pgDarkness; 09-07-2016 at 12:03 PM. Reason: adding qoute
    09-07-2016 12:02 PM
  2. Conan143's Avatar
    Yes, but I'm stuck at 10.0.14393.67. My question is how can I get from 14393.67 to 14393.103?
    I did try those 2 steps I described but no updates! (redo "System requirements -> Windows 10" section of the guide and joining RP ring)

    The scaling issue didn't get fixed with 14393.103?
    If you have restored your device details or done a hard reset, then you have to spoof your device again with Interoptools or Custompfd or DHTUpgrade Advisor. Then enroll in the RP ring and check for updates. After that, you can either do a hard reset or just restore the phone defaults via DHTUpgrade Advisor.

    EDIT: I guess you got the update. Yeah the scaling issue isn't fixed and there is no workaround either.
    09-07-2016 12:43 PM
  3. pgDarkness's Avatar
    If you have restored your device details or done a hard reset, then you have to spoof your device again with Interoptools or Custompfd or DHTUpgrade Advisor. Then enroll in the RP ring and check for updates. After that, you can either do a hard reset or just restore the phone defaults via DHTUpgrade Advisor.

    EDIT: I guess you got the update. Yeah the scaling issue isn't fixed and there is no workaround either.
    Nope! I did what you are describing and still cant get the update!
    My "System->About" section :
    wp_ss_20160907_0001.png

    My "Update & security->Phone update" section :
    wp_ss_20160907_0002.png
    09-07-2016 02:01 PM
  4. Conan143's Avatar
    Just to confirm ....Did you choose RP ring in Windows Insider Programme?
    Try different handset details, like the 830 which is mentioned in the guide.

    EDIT : See the registry section for editing the registry.
    Last edited by Conan143; 09-08-2016 at 12:13 PM.
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    09-07-2016 02:28 PM
  5. milkyway's Avatar
    Nope! I did what you are describing and still cant get the update!
    My "System->About" section :
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    you have to use the device ID of a Lumia 636 if you have a phone with 512 MB RAM
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    09-08-2016 04:36 AM
  6. pgDarkness's Avatar
    Currently considering I didn't read the entire guide (because only section "System Requirements -> Windows 10" was enough for me) , I have no idea how to select an specific device ID, but I will read the entire guide and will get back to you asap.
    Meanwhile thanks for your awesome guide and your continues support on the subject Conan143.
    Also tnx for the suggestion milkyway.

    EDIT: I tried this section of the guide and successfully changed device ID to these :
    PhoneManufacturerModelName >> RM-984_1006 >> Write
    PhoneModelName >> Lumia 830 >> Write
    PhoneHardwareVariant. >> RM-984 >> Write
    PhoneManufacturer >> NOKIA >> Write
    and still no luck, I even quit the insider program and rejoined RP ring (does it matter?), didn't work either.
    Can you provide me with equivalent information for Lumia 636 (or any other device that you think might work) to set in those registry keys? What is your next suggestion in general?
    Also do I need to wait a certain amount of time after joining insider program to start receiving updates?
    Last edited by pgDarkness; 09-08-2016 at 04:16 PM. Reason: UPDATE #1
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    09-08-2016 10:44 AM
  7. Conan143's Avatar
    Hmm, try adding these keys

    HKLM/SOFTWARE/OEM/Nokia/Variant/BSPRelease >> 2177.0000 >> Write
    HKLM/SOFTWARE/OEM/Nokia/Variant/ConfigurationID >> 1006_026570 >> Write

    These are the details for Lumia 830.

    If possible can you crosscheck your set ring in Windows Insider App. Open app and click about.

    If it ain't working, use these details too

    PhoneHardwareVariant -> RM-1027
    PhoneManufacturer -> NOKIA
    PhoneManufacturerModelName -> RM-1027_1007
    PhoneMobileOperatorName -> 000-HK
    PhoneModelName -> Lumia 636
    PhoneSOCVersion -> 8926

    Not working - try the updated DHTUpgrade Advisor app - Link
    Last edited by Conan143; 09-09-2016 at 12:32 AM. Reason: Added 636 details
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    09-09-2016 12:03 AM
  8. pgDarkness's Avatar
    Hmm, try adding these keys

    HKLM/SOFTWARE/OEM/Nokia/Variant/BSPRelease >> 2177.0000 >> Write
    HKLM/SOFTWARE/OEM/Nokia/Variant/ConfigurationID >> 1006_026570 >> Write

    These are the details for Lumia 830.
    ...
    Didn't work! Still no updates.

    If possible can you crosscheck your set ring in Windows Insider App. Open app and click about.
    ...
    I wasn't using Windows Insider App, I was using the relevant settings :
    wp_ss_20160909_0001.png

    Just in case I installed Windows Insider App too:
    wp_ss_20160909_0002.png

    So... yea, I am indeed in RP ring.

    If it ain't working, use these details too

    PhoneHardwareVariant -> RM-1027
    PhoneManufacturer -> NOKIA
    PhoneManufacturerModelName -> RM-1027_1007
    PhoneMobileOperatorName -> 000-HK
    PhoneModelName -> Lumia 636
    PhoneSOCVersion -> 8926
    ...
    I tried these setting and you can see the results in the last screen shot. Still no updates!

    Not working - try the updated DHTUpgrade Advisor app - Link
    I tried this one too, and guess what? Still no updates!

    I did try suggested tricks one by one from top to bottom and soft reset phone before checking for updates, I don't know if its relevant or not.
    Question : Am I still in the safe zone of "Do a hard reset and everything will be back to defaults?"

    What would I do next? Should I go for a hard reset and start the latest tricks from scratch?

    Thanks for your support.
    09-09-2016 03:46 AM
  9. Conan143's Avatar
    Yes, if you do a hard reset everything will be restored to defaults and current OS would be 14393.67. We haven't gone to that point yet. You succeeded in getting the AU so there is something holding back your phone.

    Try this, change the insider ring either to fast or slow....if it asks for a restart then do so. Then jump back to RP ring. Sometimes, it might help.

    EDIT : A quick surf through XDA acertained that so many 630 users like you were stranded in the production rom (14393.67). And couldn't get builds from RP ring. It seemed like MS had set a RAM limit for the insider builds on the server side. Or we're missing something. Xda-developers are working on it and hopefully you may get builds from Insider programme.

    Source : Xda link
    Last edited by Conan143; 09-09-2016 at 04:36 AM.
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    09-09-2016 04:09 AM
  10. pgDarkness's Avatar
    Yes, if you do a hard reset everything will be restored to defaults and current OS would be 14393.67. We haven't gone to that point yet. You succeeded in getting the AU so there is something holding back your phone.

    Try this, change the insider ring either to fast or slow....if it asks for a restart then do so. Then jump back to RP ring. Sometimes, it might help.

    EDIT : A quick surf through XDA acertained that so many 630 users like you were stranded in the production rom (14393.67). And couldn't get builds from RP ring. It seemed like MS had set a RAM limit for the insider builds on the server side. Or we're missing something. Xda-developers are working on it and hopefully you may get builds from Insider programme.

    Source : Xda link
    Changing rings didn't work.

    Well that wraps it up then. At least I know I'm not missing anything.
    I will follow the provided link for news on DHT Upgrade Advisor.
    Meanwhile I will feel relief if I could get my own 630 dual default registry keys back. I had a backup on DHT Upgrade Advisor but that is gone when I upgraded it to the latest version. I prefer not to go through a hard reset if possible and I didn't write down default keys (someone ask why not? ). Any suggestions?
    09-09-2016 05:04 AM
  11. Conan143's Avatar
    You could get the details from your stock rom. What's your product code?
    09-09-2016 05:20 AM
  12. pgDarkness's Avatar
    You could get the details from your stock rom. What's your product code?
    I had no idea what is product code, so I did a little research and came up with this :
    Code: 059W088 || Model: RM-978 || FCC ID: PDNRM-978
    Which was written on the body, inside the phone, above sim section.
    but according to this page, there is no such a thing! I'm confused!
    09-09-2016 06:24 AM
  13. Conan143's Avatar
    PhoneHardwareVariant -> RM-978
    PhoneManufacturer -> NOKIA
    PhoneManufacturerModelName -> RM-978_1064
    PhoneMobileOperatorName -> 000-IR
    PhoneModelName -> Lumia 630 Dual SIM
    BSPRelease >> 2040.0021
    ConfigurationID >> 1064_02660A

    These should be the default details of your phone. And also use this link for stock roms as well as to check your product code.

    Keep in mind that your phone (512 MB devices) only supports production builds for now unless we find a way to install insider builds. I guess in the next week MS might release a new build to the Production ring. Till then, you have to deal with the scaling issue.
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    09-09-2016 08:03 AM
  14. pgDarkness's Avatar
    PhoneHardwareVariant -> RM-978
    PhoneManufacturer -> NOKIA
    PhoneManufacturerModelName -> RM-978_1064
    PhoneMobileOperatorName -> 000-IR
    PhoneModelName -> Lumia 630 Dual SIM
    BSPRelease >> 2040.0021
    ConfigurationID >> 1064_02660A

    These should be the default details of your phone. And also use this link for stock roms as well as to check your product code.

    Keep in mind that your phone (512 MB devices) only supports production builds for now unless we find a way to install insider builds. I guess in the next week MS might release a new build to the Production ring. Till then, you have to deal with the scaling issue.
    Will do, thanks, you are awesome.

    ConfigurationID >> 1064_02660A or ConfigurationID >> 1064.02660A ??
    09-09-2016 10:21 AM
  15. Conan143's Avatar
    ConfigurationID >> 1064_02660A or ConfigurationID >> 1064.02660A ??
    Former
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    09-09-2016 12:20 PM
  16. pgDarkness's Avatar
    According to this blog post, build 14926 which is available for fast ring atm, fixes scaling issues:
    We fixed a scaling issue on devices such as the Lumia 635, 636, or 638 where the bottom of certain apps, like Messaging and Maps, would get cut off and rendered off screen.
    Read more at https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...HtCHiTm8lz7.99
    The only remaining question is how and or when can we (512 MB RAM Lumia device owners) install 14926?
    Any update, news relating to this guide would be appreciated.
    09-15-2016 10:15 AM
  17. Conan143's Avatar
    According to this blog post, build 14926 which is available for fast ring atm, fixes scaling issues:


    The only remaining question is how and or when can we (512 MB RAM Lumia device owners) install 14926?
    Any update, news relating to this guide would be appreciated.
    Try the build 189, you should be able to install it as it is a production build. Still there is no way to install insider builds on 512MB devices. BTW build 14926 is as buggy as hell.
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    09-20-2016 12:42 AM
  18. crixos's Avatar
    I have Lumia 630 running on 10.0.10586.494 can I also use this tutorial to install Redstone?
    09-21-2016 06:57 AM
  19. pgDarkness's Avatar
    Try the build 189, you should be able to install it as it is a production build. Still there is no way to install insider builds on 512MB devices. BTW build 14926 is as buggy as hell.

    Tried both "Allow Update" and "Allow Update (512)" options in DHT Upgrade advisor to spoof the phone, and it cannot find any update!
    I'm currently at 10.0.14393.67 and I cannot get to 189!

    Help please!
    09-21-2016 10:12 AM
  20. pgDarkness's Avatar
    I have Lumia 630 running on 10.0.10586.494 can I also use this tutorial to install Redstone?
    Did you tried "Software Requirements -> Windows 10 Mobile" section of the guide?
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    09-21-2016 10:15 AM
  21. crixos's Avatar
    I've finally installed 10.0.10586.545
    I've tried to perform "Software Requirements -> Windows 10 Mobile" steps but no new updates are available for me.
    09-26-2016 04:15 AM
  22. Conan143's Avatar

    Tried both "Allow Update" and "Allow Update (512)" options in DHT Upgrade advisor to spoof the phone, and it cannot find any update!
    I'm currently at 10.0.14393.67 and I cannot get to 189!

    Help please!
    Hmm....something is blocking you from getting the update. Anyway, assuming that you had left Insider ring, try the Windows Upgrade Advisor from Store, and follow the required instructions.

    I've finally installed 10.0.10586.545
    I've tried to perform "Software Requirements -> Windows 10 Mobile" steps but no new updates are available for me.
    Try the Upgrade Advisor from store after changing the registry.
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    09-26-2016 11:46 AM
  23. crixos's Avatar
    I've manage to install 10.0.14393.189 by following the instruction from xda-developers forum

    1- Make a hard reset.
    2- setup your phone after hard reset, avoid WIFI or mobile data access on your phone.
    2.1- once your device is done, go to developer options and enable developer mode.
    3- download and install DHTUpgrade Advisor + Dependecies via file explorer or sideload via device portal
    4- Download and Install Interop Tools 1.7 and open the app and hit on Restore NDTKSvc (This will help you to change the Registry, Some users are facing error trying to hit button "Allow Update" "Allow Update 512MB")
    4.1- Open DHTUpgrade Advisor and hit "Allow Update 512MB devices" or "Allow Update"
    4.2- in settings> sytstem> about. check your device info, in case appears the original targetting info restart your device normally.
    5- go to windows store and deactivate "Auto Update Apps", we want to stay away from Extras&Info.
    6- Install Upgrade Advisor via Windows Store.
    7- Once Installed open Upgrade Advisor and follow the steps, if upgrade advisor say you're up to date or there are no updates! its okay.
    8- go to settings> update & security> phone update> check for updates...
    -updates available
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    09-27-2016 12:53 AM
  24. AmazingWorldTub's Avatar
    Great job man.
    Although Win Phone market share is so small but these instructions like this always are respected
    09-27-2016 01:14 AM
  25. pgDarkness's Avatar
    I've manage to install 10.0.14393.189 by following the instruction from xda-developers forum

    1- Make a hard reset.
    2- setup your phone after hard reset, avoid WIFI or mobile data access on your phone.
    2.1- once your device is done, go to developer options and enable developer mode.
    3- download and install DHTUpgrade Advisor + Dependecies via file explorer or sideload via device portal
    4- Download and Install Interop Tools 1.7 and open the app and hit on Restore NDTKSvc (This will help you to change the Registry, Some users are facing error trying to hit button "Allow Update" "Allow Update 512MB")
    4.1- Open DHTUpgrade Advisor and hit "Allow Update 512MB devices" or "Allow Update"
    4.2- in settings> sytstem> about. check your device info, in case appears the original targetting info restart your device normally.
    5- go to windows store and deactivate "Auto Update Apps", we want to stay away from Extras&Info.
    6- Install Upgrade Advisor via Windows Store.
    7- Once Installed open Upgrade Advisor and follow the steps, if upgrade advisor say you're up to date or there are no updates! its okay.
    8- go to settings> update & security> phone update> check for updates...
    -updates available
    It actually worked! I'm downloading 10.0.14393.189 for my Lumia 630 dual!
    The only thing that makes sense to me is problem with updated "Extras&Info".

    Hmm....something is blocking you from getting the update. Anyway, assuming that you had left Insider ring, try the Windows Upgrade Advisor from Store, and follow the required instructions.
    Tnx bro, as I mentioned above, I got it working and my guess is problem with updated "Extras&Info". Does it makes sense?
    Thanks anyway. I hope this build doesn't cut off my ba.. I mean apps. (Will Update the reply)

    Update: Nope! 10.0.14393.189 does not fix app scaling issues.
    And I couldn't get the insider builds neither. still waiting for a fix on getting insider builds for 512MB devices.
    Last edited by pgDarkness; 09-27-2016 at 02:22 PM. Reason: Updated
    09-27-2016 12:05 PM
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