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  1. fdruid's Avatar
    or even the next one
    Screw Windows 10 Mobile, let's talk about how you traveled to the future and back!
    11-13-2015 06:31 AM
  2. doghouseriley's Avatar
    The lack of communication and a clear plan going forward is the real issue. For all of ios' issues, at least the public knows where the software is going and when they will get it. Why is it MS feels like a start up company.
    11-13-2015 06:48 AM
  3. BluetoothFairy1's Avatar
    Did a hard reinstall to 10581 for the 4th time and the sensor core now works! Health app counting my steps again!

    1 bug off the list then.
    11-13-2015 07:18 AM
  4. john24ssj's Avatar
    As a new widows phone user I wanted to ask how do we send our feedback and suggestions for windows 10 mobile to Microsoft?
    11-13-2015 08:48 AM
  5. Damian Powell1's Avatar
    I think Microsoft would've gotten a big boost visually by UI concept designers, because I've seen alot of great designs out there. My one big concern however is not with landscape and lack of transparency but in fact the decision to remove the 4th tile size option from an earlier build. It was an awesome feature which would've made W10M start screen resemble that of W10 even more, a subtle but visually pleasing feature. All in all I think W10M is a great upgrade from 8.1 and the fact that it will he updated as time goes by makes me excited to see what's just around the corner.
    Rafael Yousuf likes this.
    11-13-2015 08:49 AM
  6. Pete's Avatar
    As a new widows phone user I wanted to ask how do we send our feedback and suggestions for windows 10 mobile to Microsoft?
    Windows 10 Mobile has a "Windows Feedback" app for this exact purpose.
    john24ssj likes this.
    11-13-2015 08:53 AM
  7. badcat's Avatar
    W10M looks nice and works nice on my 930, UI/UX can be polished a bit more with future updates like on the desktop/tablet version. W10(M) will be an OS in progress and will see enhancements based on feedback, unlike say W7 for instance. People talking about how buggy an insider build is or that it is not complete should stay away from the insider program simple as that.
    The key words here are "constructive criticism". Unfortunately these forums (not necessarily this thread) are filled with anything but. Too many users clearly don't understand the concept of pre-release software and constructive criticism. What I see is a lot of foot stomping and whining about how much MS sucks.

    You are entirely correct about constructive criticism being an integral part of the Insider Program. Providing good feedback (either positive or negative) through the Feedback app is what will help MS hopefully improve the OS and feature set.

    I'm running the latest build on my 822 and it's the first build that I haven't rolled back from. It's not perfect, but it's getting there.
    Last edited by badcat; 11-13-2015 at 01:51 PM.
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    11-13-2015 08:57 AM
  8. Spectrum90's Avatar
    Trust me on this, if windows ever have as much apps as any android or iphone, people would have switch over instantly!
    The design and user experience of WP 7.5-8.1 is awful. Not even an ecosystem advantage could have saved WP from failure.
    Metro UI caused many of Microsoft's current problems. Every single product based on that desing has poor user experience and was a failure on the market, dismissed by the public.
    11-13-2015 09:00 AM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The community doesn't actually "fix" anything though - more like putting bandaid over a lost limb.

    Disclaimer: I was very deep into custom ROMs on Android and testing out different builds hoping them to "fix issues" that were present out of box, and no, not wanting to go back there ever again.
    You've never had webOS then. That community has kept the OS alive for years and continues to this day. Yes, there are broken APIs left and right but if you consider the number of apps and features that sub-4.0 Android devices are missing, it isn't so bad. Heck, Skype doesn't even work on Windows Phone 7 anymore.
    xandros9 and maxavier like this.
    11-13-2015 09:32 AM
  10. shmaun's Avatar
    I am actually someone who bought my windows phone purely on the UI. I went to buy a Samsung galaxy and ended up with a Lumia 920. I had an open mind when I walked into the store but was aware of the app gap so thought android was the way for me, but I fell in love with the live tiles and pivot navigation. It flows so well and i could use my phone one handed.
    I still love windows phone but using the hamburger still bugs me every day. Why do I have to keep reaching to the top left of my screen??? I wish they would find a solution for this. Even putting the hamburger in any other corner works better.
    11-13-2015 01:48 PM
  11. badcat's Avatar
    I am actually someone who bought my windows phone purely on the UI. I went to buy a Samsung galaxy and ended up with a Lumia 920. I had an open mind when I walked into the store but was aware of the app gap so thought android was the way for me, but I fell in love with the live tiles and pivot navigation. It flows so well and i could use my phone one handed.
    I still love windows phone but using the hamburger still bugs me every day. Why do I have to keep reaching to the top left of my screen??? I wish they would find a solution for this. Even putting the hamburger in any other corner works better.
    Yeah I get what you're saying about the hamburger menu. It would be cool if you could set up the phone for left or right handed operation so it could be easier to use with one hand.
    shmaun likes this.
    11-13-2015 01:54 PM
  12. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    The design and user experience of WP 7.5-8.1 is awful. Not even an ecosystem advantage could have saved WP from failure.

    Metro UI caused many of Microsoft's current problems. Every single product based on that desing has poor user experience and was a failure on the market, dismissed by the public.
    I agree. So awful and poor that 3 years ago I ditched my Android phone and Google to marvel at how awful at everything was. Then I joined the Windows Central forums and shared my terrible experience with others. Such an awful OS with an awful UI.
    11-13-2015 02:55 PM
  13. kawaiigardiner's Avatar
    The key words here are "constructive criticism". Unfortunately these forums (not necessarily this thread) are filled with anything but. Too many users clearly don't understand the concept of pre-release software and constructive criticism. What I see is a lot of foot stomping and whining about how much MS sucks.

    You are entirely correct about constructive criticism being an integral part of the Insider Program. Providing good feedback (either positive or negative) through the Feedback app is what will help MS hopefully improve the OS and feature set.

    I'm running the latest build on my 822 and it's the first build that I haven't rolled back from. It's not perfect, but it's getting there.
    Unfortunately what I've noticed is that on many forums there seems to be this 'doom and gloom' circle jerk about how the world sucks and how nothing Microsoft ever does it correct and we should all sit in the corner flagellating ourselves. Yes, there are issues with Windows 10 Mobile but holy crap when compared the alternatives Microsoft does have a lot going for it and like any large organisation it sometimes takes a while for things to occur. I always remind people the gap between Intel releasing the P4 and them eventually swallowing their pride and returning to a sensible CPU design - 8 years of crappy P4 CPU's then eventually we got the Core 2 with everything looking up hill from there.

    The design and user experience of WP 7.5-8.1 is awful. Not even an ecosystem advantage could have saved WP from failure.

    Metro UI caused many of Microsoft's current problems. Every single product based on that desing has poor user experience and was a failure on the market, dismissed by the public.
    The stop and start didn't help; first it was Silverlight then it was WinRT and now it is UWP - if they put down a vision way back when Windows Phone 8 was discussed then I think a lot of the problems would have resolved themselves but alas developers were never given an insight into Microsoft's big grand plan and thus were turned off because of the lack of development details. The other is the lack of bringing feature parity - gapless playback for example has only just come to Windows 10 Mobile - something that has put me off from buying one because playing music is huge part of what I use my phone for and I know for many others out there it is quite a bit part of the smart phone experience. Microsoft cannot control what third parties do and don't do but it doesn't help when Microsoft isn't at least getting feature parity with iOS and Android out of the box.
    11-13-2015 03:03 PM
  14. michail71's Avatar
    http://s27.postimg.org/3oqp1kohb/wp_...51113_0001.jpg

    EVERY GOD DAMN TIME! So 35 minutes later having to tap retry for each app individually and several times Onedrive, Onenote and Photos had updated (Glance has been sitting on failed since 10581 was installed). Yeah this thing is REALLY ready to be rolled out to the masses!
    The desktop store does the same thing. I've kind of expected this by now.
    11-13-2015 04:06 PM
  15. indospot's Avatar
    Yeah I get what you're saying about the hamburger menu. It would be cool if you could set up the phone for left or right handed operation so it could be easier to use with one hand.
    For me personally, the best solution would be a swipe gesture to bring up the hamburger menu.
    badcat and alex6272 like this.
    11-13-2015 04:07 PM
  16. drumsorbit's Avatar
    I am actually someone who bought my windows phone purely on the UI. I went to buy a Samsung galaxy and ended up with a Lumia 920. I had an open mind when I walked into the store but was aware of the app gap so thought android was the way for me, but I fell in love with the live tiles and pivot navigation. It flows so well and i could use my phone one handed.
    I still love windows phone but using the hamburger still bugs me every day. Why do I have to keep reaching to the top left of my screen??? I wish they would find a solution for this. Even putting the hamburger in any other corner works better.
    With WM10 (running 10581 on my L640) if you press the windows icon for a few seconds the window drops down to the lower half of the screen, so you can use one hand for hamburger menu access regardless of which side it's on. Hold the icon for a few seconds andthe screen drops so you have access, choose your action and then touch the top of the reduced screen and it goes full screen again.
    shmaun likes this.
    11-13-2015 07:01 PM
  17. Rafael Yousuf's Avatar
    So, i just read this:

    2015-11-14-14_23_14-what-kind-windows-10-mobile-launch-anyway_.png

    Seems like more authors are seeing the reality of W10M and how MS isnt focusing enough on it.

    Pic is from: What kind of a Windows 10 Mobile launch is this, anyway?
    11-13-2015 09:32 PM
  18. Jack Neill's Avatar
    The key words here are "constructive criticism". Unfortunately these forums (not necessarily this thread) are filled with anything but. Too many users clearly don't understand the concept of pre-release software and constructive criticism. What I see is a lot of foot stomping and whining about how much MS sucks.

    You are entirely correct about constructive criticism being an integral part of the Insider Program. Providing good feedback (either positive or negative) through the Feedback app is what will help MS hopefully improve the OS and feature set.

    I'm running the latest build on my 822 and it's the first build that I haven't rolled back from. It's not perfect, but it's getting there.
    Careful, if your critical of the site, you'll get your post removed...
    11-13-2015 09:44 PM
  19. tgp's Avatar
    For me personally, the best solution would be a swipe gesture to bring up the hamburger menu.
    That's what I've said all along. The problem isn't the hamburger menu; the problem is WP's implementation of it. I never thought about how horrible it is on Android and iOS. I wondered what the big deal was until I started using it on WP. Wowsers! No wonder it's not liked!
    Rafael Yousuf likes this.
    11-13-2015 10:26 PM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Careful, if your critical of the site, you'll get your post removed...
    He wasn't being critical of the site. He was criticizing the Doom and Gloom Society that doesn't heed warning labels. Oh and by the way, we don't remove critical posts. We remove posts that don't abide by the rules, but you already knew that since you read the forum rules as a condition of membership. Right?
    libra89, a5cent, aximtreo and 2 others like this.
    11-13-2015 11:33 PM
  21. Polychrome's Avatar
    Wow. Somebody's just annoyed as me over this sluggish flashlight toggle! Even my homie noticed when we REALLY had to use it at night in the park... And then I get these questions again from fellow iPhone users: "How can you live with a constant work and progress on your phone? My iPhone JUST works!" Well.... what do we answer to these type of questions guys.....?
    Apple has been known to release beta software as well. Like with Windows Phone, beta, pre-release software is not recommended for your "just works" users. This is recommended for those who like a challenge, need it for work (like developing an upcoming app), or enjoy troubleshooting and tinkering for the heck of it.

    So if your friend gives you grief, dare him to install iOS 10's beta whenever it inevitably turns up next year. XD

    In the meantime, if the flashlight is meaningful to you and you want it fixed, make sure to submit feedback as is expected of beta testing users.
    11-14-2015 12:56 AM
  22. EspHack's Avatar
    Apple has been known to release beta software as well. Like with Windows Phone, beta, pre-release software is not recommended for your "just works" users. This is recommended for those who like a challenge, need it for work (like developing an upcoming app), or enjoy troubleshooting and tinkering for the heck of it.

    So if your friend gives you grief, dare him to install iOS 10's beta whenever it inevitably turns up next year. XD

    In the meantime, if the flashlight is meaningful to you and you want it fixed, make sure to submit feedback as is expected of beta testing users.
    lets wait until we have the RTM and it gets released along with lumia 950's then we will check your post again and see how different what you call a "beta" is compared to what will be, officially, the commercial-final product by Microsoft, so you can compare with apple's way of doing beta and final iOS and see how great it relates to Microsoft
    11-14-2015 02:59 AM
  23. colinkiama's Avatar
    I swear you guys will never be happy.
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    11-14-2015 03:31 AM
  24. houkoholic's Avatar
    You've never had webOS then. That community has kept the OS alive for years and continues to this day. Yes, there are broken APIs left and right but if you consider the number of apps and features that sub-4.0 Android devices are missing, it isn't so bad. Heck, Skype doesn't even work on Windows Phone 7 anymore.
    Well as you said, the broken APIs are there, that means things aren't fixed, rather just kept alive, on life support.

    Android's ROM flashing scene is sort of the same, all those nightly releases and build compiled by different groups - yeah the people spend lots of time tweaking things, but it's very rare that things are actually "fixed" for good. I'm not putting down the effort of these volunteers, just that saying because there is a "community" out there doesn't really mean much for most people who just wants a reliable working phone. I certainly don't miss the days of flashing an Android phone for "fixes".
    11-14-2015 05:37 AM
  25. theefman's Avatar
    I am actually someone who bought my windows phone purely on the UI. I went to buy a Samsung galaxy and ended up with a Lumia 920. I had an open mind when I walked into the store but was aware of the app gap so thought android was the way for me, but I fell in love with the live tiles and pivot navigation. It flows so well and i could use my phone one handed.
    I still love windows phone but using the hamburger still bugs me every day. Why do I have to keep reaching to the top left of my screen??? I wish they would find a solution for this. Even putting the hamburger in any other corner works better.
    They could have gone with a solution like the Onedrive team provided after they want full android UI with the app - smaller pivots to navigate and a hamburger for less used menu items. Add in a swipe gesture to call up the menu and I think most would have little problem with it. But instead its hamburgers for all apart from when they remove them completely like in the photos app for maximum inconsistency.

    The guy who implemented the compromise solution in the onedrive app is probably at the botton of the ocean now along with all the other good designers at Microsoft.....
    shmaun likes this.
    11-14-2015 05:59 AM
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