Laura Knotek
Retired Moderator
The platform and the OS are one and the same. BlackBerry OS 10.3.1 has just been released. BlackBerry OS 10.3.1 rollout has officially begun | CrackBerry.comThey cancelled the platform, not the OS.
The platform and the OS are one and the same. BlackBerry OS 10.3.1 has just been released. BlackBerry OS 10.3.1 rollout has officially begun | CrackBerry.comThey cancelled the platform, not the OS.
Many of us are still gunshy after heavily investing into this little guy:
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After the Zune fiasco, most people seem to think twice about any MSFT hardware that isn't named XBox.
source???? never heard of that
oh really? no offense but I think Microsoft is an awesome company and I care much more for them then I do for Google, Apple or Samsung... I've been a daily Windows user for more than 15 years now and it has ALWAYS served me well. I won't say that it's absolute perfect but NONE of them are. Microsoft's platform (together with awesome 3rd party tools) provides me with the things I need to create websites, edit photographs and more and more other things.Microsoft isn't exactly a cool company and Windows isn't exactly a cool brand.
Then there's this:
You can buy one phone. You have a choice between two phones that have any app under the sun. You might not know if you want them, but the games and time wasters are there. Then you have a third option. It isn't much cheaper, and it's lacking in the "can do anything through apps" thing. Which do you think people are going to choose?
I always love it when people give a good well-documented opinionWP is too different and not in a good way.
that's why it's called a discussion. There wouldn't be a discussion if there weren't differences in opinion. That's the entire point of a forum."People disagree with me, so I'm going to go make a thread on an Internet forum and ask what's wrong with them because having a different opinion is appalling."
The problem is with Microsoft. You said it yourself--they won't release a flagship, and it's such a sorry state when an OEM (even one whose hardware services switched hands last year) can't release a flagship on AT&T for 2.5 years. It's downright pitiful. as for the app issue, it's subjective. Sometimes, your job or life requires a set of software Windows Phone can't give you.
The real question to ask is why you struggle to understand this.
oh really? no offense but I think Microsoft is an awesome company and I care much more for them then I do for Google, Apple or Samsung... I've been a daily Windows user for more than 15 years now and it has ALWAYS served me well. I won't say that it's absolute perfect but NONE of them are. Microsoft's platform (together with awesome 3rd party tools) provides me with the things I need to create websites, edit photographs and more and more other things.
I always love it when people give a good well-documented opinion
that's why it's called a discussion. There wouldn't be a discussion if there weren't differences in opinion. That's the entire point of a forum.
Why is everyone so focussed on that entire flagship thing? As if the market would explode if MS would release a flagship phone now? Not going to happen. And you can't blame MS for not having a flagship in 2,5 years. How long was it since they acquired Nokia? Do you have any idea what such a takeover needs/means for a business even like Microsoft? I actually consider my Lumia 930 a flagship if you really want it. Great battery life, awesomes performance, WHAT A CAMERA
I switched from an HTC One m7 to my Lumia 930 and haven't regretted that a single second.
My 2 cents
I think that most people don't see the 930 as a real flag ship...
that's why it's called a discussion. There wouldn't be a discussion if there weren't differences in opinion. That's the entire point of a forum.
Why is everyone so focussed on that entire flagship thing? As if the market would explode if MS would release a flagship phone now? Not going to happen. And you can't blame MS for not having a flagship in 2,5 years. How long was it since they acquired Nokia? Do you have any idea what such a takeover needs/means for a business even like Microsoft? I actually consider my Lumia 930 a flagship if you really want it. Great battery life, awesomes performance, WHAT A CAMERA
I switched from an HTC One m7 to my Lumia 930 and haven't regretted that a single second.
My 2 cents
The OP didn't put this out there as a discussion. He put it out there as an insult to dissenters. Read the title of the thread, where he says something is wrong with the world for not buying into Windows Phone. The point of a forum does not coincide with the point of his thread. It is a whiny troll thread, like so many others on this site.
That's your opinion and you got me very wrong...You see I have been doing a lot of reading thru the forum and the WC and I more and more I realise that most people buy their phones without any research about the phone or the OS and that applies to Iphone and Android users as well, I saw multiple times people misjudging WP and when I read their comments I got the feeling that they never spend a day with a WP device and yet they say a lot of nonsense and that annoys me, so yeah 'What the hell is wrong with the world...'
I'm sure there's a study or survey regarding "most people" you can link to in order to support that, right?
Can you link to a study proving he's not right?
The 930 is clearly the flagship Lumia phone (the 1520 being the flagship phablet). I really don't understand how people can consider the 920 was a flagship and the 930 isn't. If one service provider refuses to sell it then go to another, or buy it independently. Virgin Media don't offer the 930 so I went with EE. I don't think VM ever offered the 920, so does that mean the 920 was never a flagship? Clearly a load of toot. Sometimes I also wonder what's wrong with people around here...
Sounds like I got it exactly right, then. You made a claim about people who disagree, offered no evidence, and complained that something was wrong with them. Your first post doesn't really line up with what you're saying now, though. You say people don't research Windows Phone, then say they know that there is a lack of high-end phones (definitely true) and a lack of applications (also true). I don't need to spend a day with a phone to know what it is. Whether the issues presented affect your or not, they're not falsehoods. I've had my 920 for almost 2.5 years, and those allegedly ignorant complaints are basically the same ones longtime WP owners have, so calling them uninformed is counter to what they actually are.
Many of us live in the US and we can't get a Lumia 930 that will work on LTE. But thats not MS fault, we should be making our own LTE network thats compatible with the intl version.
I am complaining about the fact that people many times make a state of mind about something without some knowledge about the subject and seems to me that are other users here that find this a valid thread so if you don't agree with it why are you sharing your opinion?
About the lack of flag ship you have the M8, htc 1520 and the 930 so plenty of options and just because you don't see it as a flag ship that's not others people opinion, apple launches a phone every 2 years and people do not complain about the lack of flagship devices. About the apps, you can say that are some apps missing in WP but there are some WP exclusive apps that are worth it and you don't have it on others OS and there are reasons to stay with WP.
I didn't' call anyone ignorant, I said that there are a lot of users that don't know their phone and OS and thats true its not my fault is some people find that an insult.
Can you link to a study proving he's not right? I have nothing to do with marketing, so I have no links, but I think Facebook is a perfect example of a successful business model built almost entirely around the idea that "most people are heavily influenced by what their friends like". Facebook's "like" button, and all the stealth advertising associated with it, is successful only because most people take recommendations by friends (a like), much more seriously than they take company sponsored ads. I can't provide numbers or proof, but I think there are more than enough examples showing the sgt. is right.
Um, you ask him to prove a negative and think yourself reasonable? That's clearly classic trolling technique. Please don't.
No, I can't, but I'm not the one making wholesale generalizations about smartphone buyers and the reasons why they buy what they buy.