1. TheCudder's Avatar
    Today during the WinHEC conference in Shenzhen, China Microsoft has reveled a definitive roadmap for how different versions of Windows will be upgraded to Windows 10. Windows 7 and 8 have support, but Windows RT is left out in the cold with no upgrade path to Windows 10.

    Many of us already knew this is the case, as Microsoft has been quoted saying they plan to have an update for RT with "some" Windows 10 features. So this is for the people who have for whatever reason have been "hopeful". I'll admit, If I weren't planning to replace my Surface RT with a Surface Pro 4 (if/when announeced), I MAY be a tiny bit upset....maybe.

    RIP RT.
    03-18-2015 09:15 AM
  2. Blacklac's Avatar
    Im hoping for the Action Center.
    03-18-2015 09:17 AM
  3. Rasetech's Avatar
    I hope for continuum mode.
    03-18-2015 03:49 PM
  4. Guzzler3's Avatar
    RT is DEAD!!! Long live RT!!!

    Dang. Like my little RT tablet. It's a great device for reading and browsing while in bed.
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    03-18-2015 08:54 PM
  5. Lars Rasmussen's Avatar
    RT is DEAD!!! Long live RT!!!

    Dang. Like my little RT tablet. It's a great device for reading and browsing while in bed.


    Yeah i like it to. It doesnt hurt to much, when you Fall a sleep and get it, in your face ๐Ÿ˜
    03-19-2015 12:15 AM
  6. TheCudder's Avatar
    I hope for continuum mode.
    This is probably the least needed feature on an RT device lol. Cortana, Project Spartan and the notification center would be more than enough...but that's probably being a bit too wishful lol.
    03-20-2015 10:29 AM
  7. etphoto's Avatar
    My Surface 2 will work the same as it does now after Win10 comes out. Idk why but I have never been bothered RT will see no Win10 love.
    03-20-2015 12:39 PM
  8. Ltauhmise's Avatar
    The limited things which RT does, it seems to do well. I have a lumia 2520 and a surface 2 and find them to be adequate. Though I obviously prefer my surface pro 3. RT I think was ultimately a guinea pig... a test of how to integrate windows.... which it served its purpose for; we'll be getting windows 10. :)
    03-20-2015 01:51 PM
  9. sandflo's Avatar
    As I'm an early adopter and bought Surface RT because I thought I am future proof: can somebody explain or guess what the reason behind this is? I thought at first all devices have Nvidia Tegra and that is the reason (though they are ARM) but I checked and the Nokia 2520 has a Qualcomm...

    What is your guess?
    03-20-2015 02:23 PM
  10. ninjaap's Avatar
    Sigh... I guess all those back and forth with the anti-RT crowd here was all for nothing... Go ahead. Say it. "I told you sooooooo..."
    03-21-2015 12:20 AM
  11. wrm1's Avatar
    I'm still holding out that RT will be replaced with the Mobile 10. Same basic UI as the Phone (ala iOS). All arm based systems running the same version and feel. The idea of RT evolves and that differentiates them from the full computers. Wishful thinking, even dreaming I know...but, it's a great dream. Lol.
    03-21-2015 12:28 AM
  12. TechAbstract's Avatar
    Hopefully RT can run Windows 10 universal apps.
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    03-21-2015 12:30 AM
  13. a5cent's Avatar
    Sigh... I guess all those back and forth with the anti-RT crowd here was all for nothing... Go ahead. Say it. "I told you sooooooo..."
    Yup, I told you so ๐Ÿ˜‰
    It was about a year ago that I started explaining in these forums why RT is dead (end of life with no further product development). Taking that position got me into trouble every time back then.
    However, that conclusion had absolutely nothing to do with me thinking RT was bad, nor was it based on the idea that RT's popularity would cause MS to give up. MS never quits for that reason.
    What gave it away was the realization that RT had no chance of competing with Android tablets on price, which is a capability of strategic importance if Windows tablets are to succeed. Unfortunately, that's not an argument that is easily followed without a background in computer science, so it's easy to ignore, particularly if you don't like the message.
    Anyway, my point is that it is possible to make negative predictions regarding RT, while still liking RT for what it is. Understanding that RT couldn't take MS' tablet efforts where they needed to go doesn't make me think less of RT as it is now. It's still a good thing. I was never anti-RT.
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    03-21-2015 04:07 AM
  14. a5cent's Avatar
    Hopefully RT can run Windows 10 universal apps.
    We know an update is coming and this is the single most important piece of functionality MS could provide. Not only for MS' customers, but also for themselves.
    The success of MS' unified Windows Store depends on having the largest possible user base. Windows RT owners represent low hanging fruit in that regard.
    Predicting how MS would support/update existing Windows RT devices has been the most difficult part of this whole ordeal, but at this point I'd say this is the one thing we can be sure of.
    It's also another one of my Windows RT predictions that I made two months back, and I'm counting on MS to not make me a liar ๐Ÿ˜‰.
    03-21-2015 04:30 AM
  15. R0bR's Avatar
    The only way RT would have succeeded was if they went full modern on it and got rid of the desktop. Initially I thought that an update to do just that once Modern Office was out would have solved the whole confusion around it. However, now that I see the direction they are going with Windows 10 and how desktop centric it is even for tablet mode it does not fit RT and it would confuse users even more. It's unfortunate, I really like my original Surface RT and it is still my go to device over my SP3 for consuming content. I hope that even though RT is on it's way out that they would extend Windows 10 on phone to larger tablets up to 8-10".
    03-21-2015 09:56 AM
  16. a5cent's Avatar
    The only way RT would have succeeded was if they went full modern on it and got rid of the desktop. Initially I thought that an update to do just that once Modern Office was out would have solved the whole confusion around it.
    This is what I once thought too. About half year ago I changed my mind however, once I realized how many people really liked the desktop and don't want it removed from their Windows RT devices. Going full modern also brings with it the complication of requiring Touch Office be every bit as capable as Desktop Office that comes bundled with Windows RT. Anything less would rightfully be ridiculed as an unacceptable downgrade.
    If a real W10RT isn't in the cards, I think leaving the basic UX as it is and just updating individual components to ensure compatibility with W10 apps makes sense.
    03-21-2015 12:51 PM
  17. TheLumaniac's Avatar
    Well, we already knew that since they said some time ago that Windows RT will only get some features, so you could expect a Windows RT 8.2 update. Which is why there is not upgrade path to Windows 10.
    03-22-2015 08:05 AM
  18. TheCudder's Avatar
    I'm still holding out that RT will be replaced with the Mobile 10. Same basic UI as the Phone (ala iOS). All arm based systems running the same version and feel. The idea of RT evolves and that differentiates them from the full computers. Wishful thinking, even dreaming I know...but, it's a great dream. Lol.
    If that was he case, the upgrade path would have stated "Windows RT >> Windows 10 Mobile." Windows 10 Mobile (phones & small tablets) supports screen sizes up to 6.99 inches, that pretty much sums it up that it will not get the phones/small tablet version either.

    Microsoft wrote off huge losses because of the Surface RT & Surface 2, they have no incentive to continue full support for Windows on ARM --- this is just another step in trimming the "fat" at Microsoft. They're focusing their resources of popular and more important products that will ensure this company thrives in the years to come. Windows RT was doomed from the beginning with its lack luster Store apps.
    03-22-2015 03:53 PM
  19. Rasetech's Avatar
    This is probably the least needed feature on an RT device lol. Cortana, Project Spartan and the notification center would be more than enough...but that's probably being a bit too wishful lol.
    Funny that you know what I want.
    03-23-2015 06:05 AM
  20. ahumeniy's Avatar
    Seeing what Microsoft is doing to the touch experience on Windows 10 I'd rather stick with Windows 8.1 on my Surface 2.
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    03-23-2015 04:27 PM
  21. TheLumaniac's Avatar
    Seeing what Microsoft is doing to the touch experience on Windows 10 I'd rather stick with Windows 8.1 on my Surface 2.
    Well, it's still an unfinished product, so don't get your hopes down.
    03-23-2015 04:52 PM
  22. Dimon Daemon's Avatar
    That is not the first time (and not the last, I guess) when Microsoft leaves behind users who buying their products.
    04-01-2015 05:06 AM
  23. tbsteph's Avatar
    Your Windows RT device did not run full Windows when you bought it. Anyone surprised it will not be able to run Windows 10? Microsoft has said RT devices will get some of the Windows 10 features. Sounds good to me. If you ever expected to get a full version of Windows on your RT device you are looking for a freebie and disgruntled when it does not appear to be on the horizon. FWIW, I have a Surface 2 and it works exactly as planned.
    04-04-2015 04:41 PM

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