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  1. Robot_Man's Avatar
    I'll also switch OS but my problem is what I'll use. Probably an iPhone

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    I also prefer iPhone but where I live we buy phones simfree and off contract, so IPhones don't worth their price tag, so if I HAVE to choose, you know what I would go for :D
    05-20-2014 02:08 AM
  2. Musaib124's Avatar
    I've got mail from WhatsApp too so there's no question of never return of WhatsApp to windowsphone
    05-20-2014 02:14 AM
  3. josepmanel1983's Avatar
    I am very tempted to use my HTC One S, which I currently use as secondary device, as main driver. I am happy with my HTC 8X but waiting for apps to get published, updated, etc. is geting very tiring. Microsoft (Joe Belfiore) can say whatever they want but the developers I speak with always tell me WP is last on the list, if even that. And now Whatsapp again! I work as a teacher and most of my students buy their phones taking into account apps like Whatsapp or Candy Crush (I know) so it seems like WP is doomed. If they haven't been able to overcome the app gap in four+ years... perhaps they've lost their train.

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    05-20-2014 02:24 AM
  4. ShreyansShah's Avatar
    I've got mail from WhatsApp too so there's no question of never return of WhatsApp to windowsphone
    i think this topic "what if" is just for the fun. it's just imagining the situation. it's not gonna happen. u search, u will find the article with twitter snapshot that, whatsapp update is ready and is coming. that's why they have withdrawn the app from the store.
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    05-20-2014 02:47 AM
  5. tapehead's Avatar
    You don't understand that for us Whatsapp is as important as one of those functions. You wouldn't buy a phone that doesn't offer calls just because many people use one or the other VoIP app.

    We want the one thing we can reach everybody with, not check all the alternatives and hope the other person might use one of them.

    Whatsapp is the only messenger I have installed. I tested most of the other ones, however with only 2 or 3 of my contacts using them, I didn't see a reason to keep them.

    Yes, Whatsapp is that big in Europe.
    This +1.

    Everybody here uses Whatsapp instead of normal text messaging. That's just kind of how it is. So, a phone that can't do WhatsApp in a place like this is never going to take off. That's just how it is. Would you buy a phone knowing you couldn't text ANY of your friends?
    05-20-2014 02:49 AM
  6. ShreyansShah's Avatar
    i just wish, the returning whatsapp should come with integration, so that we can make it a default messaging app. or otherwise, there will be an option to send msgs directly through whatsapp, such in Droid. it shall save lot of time.
    05-20-2014 03:53 AM
  7. optimuscle's Avatar
    Whatsapp not being available is a very big deal regardless of what people say. People have friends spread all over the world and whatsapp is the app of choice. So having a platform that does not support such a highly utilized and high profile application is very discerning. And something that could be very detrimental to a platform. This is not like missing an app for the movies or some other insignificant app. Like it or not whatsapp is a marquee app and one that people will look at when choosing platforms. Not having elite level apps makes an OS look underdeveloped and minor league. Something today's market will not tolerate. It has been four years things like this should not be happening. Especially from a company of the stature of Microsoft. Even when the app returns as I am sure it will. The fact that it hasn't been updated for so long speaks volumes towards the maturity of the WP ecosystem. Especially in comparison to other two giants they are competing with. Add snapchat,YouTube and other glaring omissions and you have very troublesome and lingering problem.
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    05-20-2014 04:06 AM
  8. manwe's Avatar
    i dont know where you guys live, but i also live in europe and viber is easily as big as whatsapp among the people i know. as i said i use whatsapp quite a lot, but it's a bit of an over-exaggeration to say this whole continent can't do without an app that has several equally popular alternatives. it may be that huge in Switzerland, but that's an outlier in my experience.
    of course it makes sense some people really prioritise whatsapp (and i'm just playing with this hypothetical scenario of it never returning) but i think it wouldn't be too hard to do without it.
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    05-20-2014 04:39 AM
  9. Chregu's Avatar
    i dont know where you guys live, but i also live in europe and viber is easily as big as whatsapp among the people i know. as i said i use whatsapp quite a lot, but it's a bit of an over-exaggeration to say this whole continent can't do without an app that has several equally popular alternatives. it may be that huge in Switzerland, but that's an outlier in my experience.
    of course it makes sense some people really prioritise whatsapp (and i'm just playing with this hypothetical scenario of it never returning) i think it wouldn't be too hard to do without it.
    It was maybe a little enthusiastic saying Europe, you're right.

    Interestingly, I only know about Viber because of the WPC news concerning it. I installed it a few times after big updates, but there was still almost nobody using it in my address book.
    05-20-2014 04:41 AM
  10. luisfarelo's Avatar
    Whatsapp has a lot of nerve for removing an app with no warning, an app which IS NOT free (only first year), many have paid for it. This whole situation is pathetic and has made me consider going back to Android.
    05-20-2014 06:43 AM
  11. motionmind's Avatar
    I'm still trying to figure out why they pulled it at all. I've seen some of the headlines about how it was totally broken on 8.1, yet I haven't had a single problem and am still using it. Honestly, I'd just use something else if it vanished permanently. I actually miss having Facebook messages show up in the text message app like they did in WP8.
    05-20-2014 06:51 AM
  12. ShreyansShah's Avatar
    Whatsapp has a lot of nerve for removing an app with no warning, an app which IS NOT free (only first year), many have paid for it. This whole situation is pathetic and has made me consider going back to Android.
    they have not removed it. they just for a short time, have stopped publishing it. that does not mean, the existing users cannot use the installed app.
    and this withdrawal is regarding the update to be published soon. there are lot many developers follow this procedure.
    05-20-2014 07:08 AM
  13. thorkenneth's Avatar
    05-20-2014 07:54 AM
  14. sudhisoma's Avatar
    But they atleast tweeted that they were removing it! And gave some sort of information! For us WP8.1 user they didn't provide any sort of info :(
    05-20-2014 08:01 AM
  15. BobLobIaw's Avatar
    Judging by how many times she proactively thanked me without my asking how it's going, I'd say she loves it so far. Just gave it to her yesterday. Also hooked her up with a wireless charging stand, JBL PowerUp, and a Nokia flip-cover. Huge upgrade (no pun intended) from her Lumia 900.
    Great to hear!
    05-20-2014 10:51 AM
  16. bionicgt's Avatar
    Not back yet then OMG? :/

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    05-20-2014 11:29 AM
  17. iamtim's Avatar
    Whatsapp has a lot of nerve for removing an app with no warning
    Yeah, how dare they decide to no longer make available their own product which they developed and maintain. Don't they realize that they have to keep it available whether they want to or not? What, do they think they own it or something? Sheesh.
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    05-20-2014 11:38 AM
  18. luismfarelo's Avatar
    Yeah, how dare they decide to no longer make available their own product which they developed and maintain. Don't they realize that they have to keep it available whether they want to or not? What, do they think they own it or something? Sheesh.
    People have paid for it, and if by any chance they reset the phone, they can't use a service they paid for. So no, they don't have a right to do this.
    05-20-2014 12:54 PM
  19. iamtim's Avatar
    So no, they don't have a right to do this.
    Read the EULAs. You're not paying for ownership of an app or service, you're paying for a license to use it. A license which can be revoked at any time by either Microsoft or the app publisher.

    So yeah. They do have the right. Whenever they want.
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    05-20-2014 01:33 PM
  20. hasasimo's Avatar
    Microsoft has commented on the issue, basically rehashing what the WhatsApp team already said... that there's a technical issue and it'll be back "soon."

    The WhatsApp app has been temporarily removed from the Windows Phone store and will be restored soon. We are in the process of working with WhatsApp to resolve the issue. Thank you for your patience.
    Source: WhatsApp “will be restored soon” says Microsoft | WMPoweruser
    05-20-2014 03:21 PM
  21. badcat's Avatar
    You can make all of that on Android and iOS. If you can't use whatsapp on WP, then, BY COMPARISON, yes, you have a worthless smartphone. Whatsapp is the reason many in Europe even buy smartphones.
    Then why doesn't Whatsapp just make a mobile OS and be done with it? Just for your enlightenment, there's a whole lot of people that don't give a rats patoot about Whatsapp and get along without it just fine. If you want to use it, have at it. But it bugs me that so many in these forums blame MS when it isn't MS's fault or problem. Chill out and let the dev fix it.
    Last edited by badcat; 05-20-2014 at 04:53 PM.
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    05-20-2014 03:49 PM
  22. badcat's Avatar
    If Whatsapp doesn't come back WP will crash and burn to irrelevance, literally if I recommended Wp to anyone and they saw there wasn't Whatsapp, they would laugh at me.
    For the life of me I just can't imagine caring about an app that much.
    05-20-2014 03:57 PM
  23. neglekted's Avatar
    People have paid for it, and if by any chance they reset the phone, they can't use a service they paid for. So no, they don't have a right to do this.
    Where does this strange sense of entitlement come from? You see it more and more these days...
    Just because you paid a tiny amount of money for something (WhatsApp costs what, 99 cents a year?) does not mean it will be available 100% of the time, and neither does it take away WhatsApp's right to temporarily make the installation package unavailable if they feel it is necessary. I'm pretty sure they would not have done this had it not been absolutely necessary. Just look at the ****storm that's going on now. Wouldn't they like to avoid that unless absolutely necessary?

    I agree this is annoying, is not doing Windows Phone any favors and probably could not have come at a worse time seeing as WP8.1 devices are just now starting to become available, but what can you do? Being an *** about it on the internet sure isn't going to help.
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    05-20-2014 04:37 PM
  24. guillams's Avatar
    What exactly should I sell to you? That comment makes no sense.

    You have to do whatever meets your needs. If you don't need or use Whatsapp, that's splendid. Good for you. Nonetheless, I need it. I need it that much that it's a reason to change to another platform should it not be available anymore.

    Even if this wouldn't be a rational decision - I have explained why I need it, it's the standard here, everybody uses it - it would still be my own decision to make. And believe me, if it would never return, Windows Phone would it have even much, much worse than now in the Swiss market.

    It's strange anyway that I have to defend my opinion in a thread that asks for an opinion. Don't you think?

    Anyway, I highly doubt that they won't bring it back. There's even a Blackberry version after all.



    Paranoia
    05-20-2014 10:19 PM
  25. Chregu's Avatar
    Paranoia
    Did you read and understand what I wrote? I think you should read it again.
    05-21-2014 01:50 AM
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