Prediction: Microsoft/Nokia will disappoint at MWC

[aubreyq]

They seem to be banking on Windows 8 being the game-changer, so are tying everything into that release so they can have some big reveal of them all working together. Only thing is, if Windows 8 fails, then it takes everything else they have tied to it down as well.

I highly doubt Windows 8 will fail. Microsoft learned a hard lesson with Vista and turned it around with Windows 7. The Windows OS market share is insanely large.

Would have been better to push WP harder and get people used to Metro, cos there is no guarantee that everyone is going to go with them considering the competition will be well entrenched and firing their own big guns as well.

I would agree with this, but my opinion has always been that Microsoft needs "rock star" phones and a massive marketing campaign for Windows Phone to succeed. Forget Metro, let people get the PHONES, then they'll learn Metro. Look what Verizon and Motorola did for the Android OS. I'm not an Android fan, but Verizon/Motorola got Android to where it is today.

Seems to me, Microsoft is still thinking like an old, stuffy company, assuming that everyone will buy their stuff just because they are Microsoft. Times have changed and there are hundreds of millions of people who have not and wont be using Microsoft services and by allowing yet another long period of time to pass without any visibility in the current hot tech markets they are only giving themselves a bigger hurdle to climb later to convince people to use their products.

The "old, stuffy company" mentality might work with the desktop OS because of the existing market share but they have to tread carefully with Windows Phone.

 

[squire777]

I was hoping that there would be a pentaband Lumia 800 or 900 announced, or at least one with some kind of AWS support but it didn't happen. I guess my only options for now are the 710, HTC Radar or stick with my HD7.

 

[MadDogFL62]

The big bombshell at MWC will be what Microsoft isn't showing.

As in NOTHING from every device manufacturer EXCEPT Nokia.

Holding out for Apollo is the BIG NEWS. (Better get an earlier flight back to Redmond, boys! Looks like you have your work cut out for you.)

 

[thepickupbear]

is anyone else crushingly dissapointed at the lack of a date for the 900 in the US??

Maybe i'm just really feeling this because I stayed up way too late to watch the press conference, but man I get the feeling like the US is being treated like the lowest priority market now - when WP should be seriously pumping up the enthusiasm.

 

[doublebullout]

Well, it's probably fair to say that the US really is the lowest priority market right now ... for Nokia. For better or worse (better in my view), Nokia is the face of WP7 now. Nokia has to recapture their home market first. So far it looks like their strategy is working.


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[theefman]

I highly doubt Windows 8 will fail. Microsoft learned a hard lesson with Vista and turned it around with Windows 7. The Windows OS market share is insanely large.

If there's one thing we've learned over the last few years, is that anything is possible. Apple on the back of a smartphone and tablet have eclipsed Microsoft's profits and revenues, even though MS has billion dollar businesses in Windows and Office. Not saying it will, but nothing is certain in technology anymore, and we're starting to see the effect of apple's products on pc sales, and Microsoft does not hold the same position they once did. They have to bring their best game ever to get back in the race.

 

[gwydionjhr]

is anyone else crushingly dissapointed at the lack of a date for the 900 in the US??

Maybe i'm just really feeling this because I stayed up way too late to watch the press conference, but man I get the feeling like the US is being treated like the lowest priority market now - when WP should be seriously pumping up the enthusiasm.

is anyone else crushingly dissapointed at the lack of a date for the 900 in the US??

Didn't Elop say April for the Roger's Canadian rollout? I would suspect that AT&T will have it on shelves before then.

 

[selfcreation]

Windows / MS will simply never die for pc , 90% of ALL business arroudn the world use WIndows/PC producs. not to mention PC gaming
10% use apple = entertainment ( musics , pic, vids ect.. )

and WP is simply a piggy back ride for MS ,

sorta like Apple TV is to apple. ( small but nice )

we really need to stop making big things out of nothing.

 

[Reflexx]

Windows 8 pretty much can't fail. Too many businesses have their whole infrastructure invested in Windows.

The worst that can happen with Windows 8 is slower adoption than expected. But the adoption will still happen.

I think when people are worried, they're too busy looking at the small picture and the short term.

 

[selfcreation]

Windows 8 pretty much can't fail. Too many businesses have their whole infrastructure invested in Windows.

The worst that can happen with Windows 8 is slower adoption than expected. But the adoption will still happen.

I think when people are worried, they're too busy looking at the small picture and the short term.

exactly , look how well W7 did after VISTA ( we all know how bad vista was ) a few dayz/weeks after it had came out you alredy saw news tv stations adapt the new W7 technologies into there system.

not worried at all for MS. unless Bill Gates gets a nice blue screen of death while showing it off! lol.

 

[TheWeeBear]

unless Bill Gates gets a nice blue screen of death while showing it off! lol.

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW7Rqwwth84[/YT]

I remember it like it was only yesterday Se1fcr3ation :lol:

 

[aubreyq]

If there's one thing we've learned over the last few years, is that anything is possible. Apple on the back of a smartphone and tablet have eclipsed Microsoft's profits and revenues, even though MS has billion dollar businesses in Windows and Office. Not saying it will, but nothing is certain in technology anymore, and we're starting to see the effect of apple's products on pc sales, and Microsoft does not hold the same position they once did. They have to bring their best game ever to get back in the race.

Apple computers are simply too expensive to ever have a leap in market share. Plus, Microsoft has the business customers locked into Windows as well. I know you say nothing is certain, but I'd say the Windows desktop OS platform will certainly be #1 for many years to come.

 

[selfcreation]

Click to view quoted video

I remember it like it was only yesterday Se1fcr3ation :lol:

LOL CLASIC! was a great moment! ****, that was like 14years ago im sitll young but man i start to feel old when i see does vids! lol

 

[theefman]

Windows 8 pretty much can't fail. Too many businesses have their whole infrastructure invested in Windows.The worst that can happen with Windows 8 is slower adoption than expected. But the adoption will still happen.

I think when people are worried, they're too busy looking at the small picture and the short term.

Actually, they have invested in previous versions of Windows. Businesses are the last ones who will be rushing out to get Windows 8 as most are now just embracing Windows 7 and migrating to it from XP. They wont be considering Windows 8 for a few more years so it wont be on their radar. So the biggest market will be consumers and that is where the potential for slow adoption comes. If they dont like it, if they cant see past their ipads and the like.

Anyway, I'm not saying it will fail, just expressing my disagreement with MS tying everything to Windows 8's launch when they could use the phone more aggressively now as a teaser of things to come.

 

[Winterfang]

Man this is awful. Android is getting some of the best phones yet and What did Nokia gave to Microsoft? Their worse WP7 yet. If Nokia doesn't care about Windows Phone why would the others? ( the clearly don't since LG, HTC and Samsung won't even show anything)

=(

 

[aubreyq]

Man this is awful. Android is getting some of the best phones yet and What did Nokia gave to Microsoft? Their worse WP7 yet. If Nokia doesn't care about Windows Phone why would the others? ( the clearly don't since LG, HTC and Samsung won't even show anything)

=(

Yeah, this is sad. I suppose Microsoft will stick to unscheduled press conferences. Kind of sucks not to be excited about Microsoft during MWC, or Nokia for that matter.

 

[Winterfang]

Yeah I hate this second class citizen feel. We are treated as a joke, I hate this.

Hopefully the conference will change my mind because this is breaking my heart.

 

[theefman]

Is MS having a conference at MWC? Havent seen it mentioned anywhere, thought the only thing they were doing was Windows 8.

 

[Reflexx]

Actually, they have invested in previous versions of Windows. Businesses are the last ones who will be rushing out to get Windows 8 as most are now just embracing Windows 7 and migrating to it from XP. They wont be considering Windows 8 for a few more years so it wont be on their radar. So the biggest market will be consumers and that is where the potential for slow adoption comes. If they dont like it, if they cant see past their ipads and the like.

Anyway, I'm not saying it will fail, just expressing my disagreement with MS tying everything to Windows 8's launch when they could use the phone more aggressively now as a teaser of things to come.

That's why I said that the worst that will happen is SLOW adoption.

There are still many businesses that do upgrade. And since Windows 8 still has the desktop available, the types of businesses that were early adopters of Windows 7 will also be the same ones that will be early adopters of Windows 8.

Sure, the giant businesses, may be slow to adopt. But they've always been that way. It's not like they'll be slower with Windows 8 just because it's Windows 8. Like any version of Windows, they'll wait for the bugs to be worked out first.

The fact that Windows 8 will be available on Tablets will be a big plug for MS. And the fact that there will be strong integration between different MS products will help MS keep a large part of the consumer market.

Even if Apple does gain some market share, MS will still own a HUGE portion of the market. So when anyone worries about failure (not you), then I see it as unjustified panic.

 

[Winterfang]

I though we where getting one now at 4:00 PM.