WC 1M Post Challenge - You Ready?!

[worldspy99]

Six day weekend?
Yes please.
Be back on Monday next week.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

It's sort of like the issue of the monarchy in the UK and in other parts of the EU. Everyone knows it's stupid but no one wants to let it go.

There's a damn good reason why they hold onto it: imperial access to privilege.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

So no work for the next 48 hours.

What's on the Thursday menu?

Garlic shrimp (gotta peel and devein the damn things), 3 meat meatloaf, roasted asparagus, roasted potatoes, sautéed mushrooms with onions and leeks. There's likely some salad somewhere in there too. I'd like to steal a few pieces to do a shrimp ceviche, but we will see how that plays out.

The gf is to make a macaroni pie and ??? (which is code for she doesn't know what else yet). The plan is to be in and out of the supermarket early tomorrow for a few last minute items.

 

[libra89]

So interview on Thursday. I was hoping earlier in the week.

I'd say beggars can't be choosers but I'm wasn't begging in the first place.

I wish you good luck with the interview.

 

[libra89]

Six day weekend?
Yes please.
Be back on Monday next week.

Nice, enjoy!

 

[Laura Knotek]

So no work for the next 48 hours.

What's on the Thursday menu?

Garlic shrimp (gotta peel and devein the damn things), 3 meat meatloaf, roasted asparagus, roasted potatoes, sautéed mushrooms with onions and leeks. There's likely some salad somewhere in there too. I'd like to steal a few pieces to do a shrimp ceviche, but we will see how that plays out.

The gf is to make a macaroni pie and ??? (which is code for she doesn't know what else yet). The plan is to be in and out of the supermarket early tomorrow for a few last minute items.

Good luck with the shopping and cooking, and enjoy your dinner.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

Heh.

https://youtu.be/K9_cJ99Uyk4

 

[N_LaRUE]

There's a damn good reason why they hold onto it: imperial access to privilege.

I was referring to the general public not those in privilege.

Most people don't understand the costs involved and don't seem to care.

 

[N_LaRUE]

I wish you good luck with the interview.

Thanks. I'm pretty good with these things in general but it all comes down to the person I'm interviewing with typically.

I've done more interviews than I care to count.

The biggest thing with this situation is going to come down to money. In other words is the money going to be enough to warrant a move to Paris cause it's most likely where we'll be living.

There are of course lots of other things that make the prospect of this position interesting but I don't want to be poorer or living uncomfortably for the privilege.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

I was referring to the general public not those in privilege.

Most people don't understand the costs involved and don't seem to care.

I was also referring to the general public. You know those that look more like you and less like me...

 

[N_LaRUE]

I was also referring to the general public. You know those that look more like you and less like me...

Though I'm not going to disagree the truth is 'monarchy' is a whole other level of white privilege.

I personally don't feel any more or less special regardless but maybe some do. That's a weird head space...

 

[MSFTisMIA]

Though I'm not going to disagree the truth is 'monarchy' is a whole other level of white privilege.

I personally don't feel any more or less special regardless but maybe some do. That's a weird head space...

Because the system is designed with in-built Caucasian privilege, one of the ways in which that manifests is the way in which those who benefit from the privilege have the option of consciously or unconsciously not being able to identify it.

Now, for those reading this, it's not an indictment of certain specific people. There are tons of people who the system benefits that are in tune with their privilege and either use it to help others or at the base minimum, just use it in a way that gets what they need not at the expense of others.

But there are quite a few, who at minimum pull rank with their privilege or at worst are discriminatory racists. Them is the people I cannot stand and should be run out of town on a rail, put in a mackerel barrel, pushed off a pier and sent floating out to get stuck in one of those floating reefs of plastic garbage in the ocean.

 

[libra89]

Heh.

https://youtu.be/K9_cJ99Uyk4

This was interesting. As a woman, I can understand her viewpoint generally. I don't totally agree with it. There are some men who would take advantage of a woman who earns more than them and I have heard the stories. (I know that the other way around happens too.) She's right about some men feeling insecure about a woman that makes more than them, it is truly a thing. This kinda happened with my sister's ex, over different things.

However, I am in agreement with Aba and Preach here about some of the random things other women disqualify a man for. Some of it is silly to me, but as a tall woman, I can't with someone who is noticeably shorter or much taller than me. I prefer someone around my height. Aba had a point about the facts he said about women, I can't disagree, especially with the finances point.

I laughed at the heels comment and what he did there LOL.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

So I don't talk nuts and bolts about work, but this needs to be said.

My colleague and I are dealing with two clients. My client is a young Latina mother of two small children under 5. My colleague's is a middle aged non brown male. Both have some significant medical challenges. Both are homeless and staring at navigating the jungle that is the shelter system. As much as the shelter ain't no picnic, the individual men's shelter depending on the site can be jail house level rough. The family shelters are a bit better and housing placement can move a bit faster, for obvious reasons.

Both don't want to do the shelter for reasons I hinted at and a few others. My client did her soul searching and packed the kids up and went in, because her mother's medical conditions are bad enough that them staying there was too cramped for all. My colleague's is busy attempting guilt tripping her and expecting her to hand him keys to a place similar to the suburban neighborhood his mother stays in. She has provided him will all the resources needed, and yet he remains in the denial state, clinging to his privilege to fix his situation.

Brown people know we have to deal with certain systems and situations because comparatively our resources pool force us to have to navigate them, and do so well enough to survive. When non brown folks have to do that, many keep trying to pull their privilege to no avail. The irony is that non brown people due their resources are often positions writing policies that cut and restrict funding to those resources. The bigger irony is when those same folks use brown people as a reason to cut those social services when a significant number of non browns use those same services. That's Western Capitalism for you...

 

[MSFTisMIA]

This was interesting. As a woman, I can understand her viewpoint generally. I don't totally agree with it. There are some men who would take advantage of a woman who earns more than them and I have heard the stories. (I know that the other way around happens too.) She's right about some men feeling insecure about a woman that makes more than them, it is truly a thing. This kinda happened with my sister's ex, over different things.

However, I am in agreement with Aba and Preach here about some of the random things other women disqualify a man for. Some of it is silly to me, but as a tall woman, I can't with someone who is noticeably shorter or much taller than me. I prefer someone around my height. Aba had a point about the facts he said about women, I can't disagree, especially with the finances point.

I laughed at the heels comment and what he did there LOL.

Much of this is socialization. Instead of doing things are different but equal, we're still hung up on the difference.

 

[N_LaRUE]

My colleague's is busy attempting guilt tripping her and expecting her to hand him keys to a place similar to the suburban neighborhood his mother stays in. She has provided him will all the resources needed, and yet he remains in the denial state, clinging to his privilege to fix his situation.

I know you stated the privilege (which is true) but it's also an ego thing for 'men' in general. Especially in countries where being 'a man' is not asking for help or handouts or god forbid, having feelings...

I'm not entirely sure where this attitude came from but it's definitely an issue in the USA, Canada, UK and Australia. I can't really speak for any other country, not even France as I'm a bit out of the loop with society still.

 

[N_LaRUE]

Much of this is socialization. Instead of doing things are different but equal, we're still hung up on the difference.

We're going to be hung up on it for a long time still as we continuously push the idea of difference between men and women. Skin colour. Sexual orientation...

 

[libra89]

So I don't talk nuts and bolts about work, but this needs to be said.

My colleague and I are dealing with two clients. My client is a young Latina mother of two small children under 5. My colleague's is a middle aged non brown male. Both have some significant medical challenges. Both are homeless and staring at navigating the jungle that is the shelter system. As much as the shelter ain't no picnic, the individual men's shelter depending on the site can be jail house level rough. The family shelters are a bit better and housing placement can move a bit faster, for obvious reasons.

Both don't want to do the shelter for reasons I hinted at and a few others. My client did her soul searching and packed the kids up and went in, because her mother's medical conditions are bad enough that them staying there was too cramped for all. My colleague's is busy attempting guilt tripping her and expecting her to hand him keys to a place similar to the suburban neighborhood his mother stays in. She has provided him will all the resources needed, and yet he remains in the denial state, clinging to his privilege to fix his situation.

Brown people know we have to deal with certain systems and situations because comparatively our resources pool force us to have to navigate them, and do so well enough to survive. When non brown folks have to do that, many keep trying to pull their privilege to no avail. The irony is that non brown people due their resources are often positions writing policies that cut and restrict funding to those resources. The bigger irony is when those same folks use brown people as a reason to cut those social services when a significant number of non browns use those same services. That's Western Capitalism for you...

I can picture this very easily. Almost too easily.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

I know you stated the privilege (which is true) but it's also an ego thing for 'men' in general. Especially in countries where being 'a man' is not asking for help or handouts or god forbid, having feelings...

I'm not entirely sure where this attitude came from but it's definitely an issue in the USA, Canada, UK and Australia. I can't really speak for any other country, not even France as I'm a bit out of the loop with society still.

I agree with you that that can factor into some cases.

This is different.

My program is 100% voluntary for clients. They can decline services literally at any time. I've had people decline services in anger and once I told them I cannot work with them, they got pissed that they couldn't walk it back. Of course we have to ask quite a few different ways to ensure we've given them ample opportunity to change their minds before they put their foots in their mouths, but you know vulnerable people make it difficult. Informed consent is always a thing to monitor.

So he already agreed to ask for help by having my colleague involved. Your ego doesn't put a roof over your head. Outside of cash and sex, nothing else can be used to pay for housing. Every landlord wants the former and those who take the latter typically want BOTH.

He just wants the help on his terms. That's the ego of privilege talking, not the ego of not wanting to ask for help. There's a whole lot I've left out of course, but this is one of the key issues. My client doesn't like asking for help either, but as a mom who wants her kids to have a space and to leave them something, she's willing to put that ego surrounding help aside to get what she needs - because she doesn't have the $$$ to do it otherwise.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

We're going to be hung up on it for a long time still as we continuously push the idea of difference between men and women. Skin colour. Sexual orientation...

That's why people like me will remain employed. Viciously underpaid, but employed nonetheless.