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[Rose640]

Yes atheists can be annoying and jerks... Just like anyone else.

Being an atheist doesn't make you a good person by any means. It should, but it doesn't.

What bothers you specifically? Speaking as an atheist I'm curious.

I believe we had this discussion back in, pf, 2017 maybe? Nothing bugs me with atheism in general, it's just a belief as any other. But it was my friend, now an ex friend but not because of this of course , that really stretched my nerve.

His family was quite religious, he even has an imam (muslim priest) in his family. So when he went atheist, he remained, well, somewhat extreme. Just a different direction. He'd mock everything religious at any time of day, at any occasion and when you'd try to argue him, he'd get super cynical, arrogant and just outright piece of **** of a human being. No respect at all.

What I'm trying to say, I respected his opinion and his point of view, and it was not reciprocated.

This really seems like a rant towards that one guy, and it basically just that. And everyone else alike.

 

[Rose640]

How so? I find that atheists don't try to ram their beliefs, on non-beliefs, down people's throats. I actually find religeous zealots a whole lot more irritating. My father-in-law is a JW and they don't come more irritating than them. My wife and him constantly argue because she labels them as a cult. Now with Uncle Donny in the picture, Thanksgiving is a riot.

This one was annoying as hell.

 

[N_LaRUE]

I believe we had this discussion back in, pf, 2017 maybe? Nothing bugs me with atheism in general, it's just a belief as any other. But it was my friend, now an ex friend but not because of this of course , that really stretched my nerve.

His family was quite religious, he even has an imam (muslim priest) in his family. So when he went atheist, he remained, well, somewhat extreme. Just a different direction. He'd mock everything religious at any time of day, at any occasion and when you'd try to argue him, he'd get super cynical, arrogant and just outright piece of **** of a human being. No respect at all.

What I'm trying to say, I respected his opinion and his point of view, and it was not reciprocated.

This really seems like a rant towards that one guy, and it basically just that. And everyone else alike.

I'm familiar with that.

Everyone goes through a stage where they 'figured it out' and find everything about religion just weird. I went though it. I'm sure most atheists do. I still find aspects of it both amusing and sad.

You go through different stages and you'll eventually mellow.

As for it being a belief. That's probably the incorrect term.

A person who really identifies as an atheist usually takes time to get there. It's a view based on the evidence. A scientific approach in a way. At least mine is.

It's help me shed a lot of nonsense I had when growing up.

 

[Rose640]

I'm familiar with that.

Everyone goes through a stage where they 'figured it out' and find everything about religion just weird. I went though it. I'm sure most atheists do. I still find aspects of it both amusing and sad.

You go through different stages and you'll eventually mellow.

As for it being a belief. That's probably the incorrect term.

A person who regally l really identifies as an atheist usually takes time to get there. It's a view based on the evidence. A scientific approach in a way. At least mine is.

I never really went that way, so naturally I've never seen such evidence, though I have found some that go the other way. Says alot about human mentality I guess.

 

[fatclue_98]

A person who really identifies as an atheist usually takes time to get there. It's a view based on the evidence. A scientific approach in a way. At least mine is.

That's why it's called faith. I get what you mean, there's no way I can digest even a tenth of what's in the Bible. It's a good book with a lot of sound advice, but it's still just a book and it was written by men. Men with biases and agendas. My belief in a higher power is unflappable but I don't feel the need to go to church and profess it. Especially to someone who's been "anointed" by some man or group of men. I always loved D.L. Hughley's take on men of the cloth - "a white preacher will **** your kids, a black preacher will **** your wife."

 

[MSFTisMIA]

There was an eerie feeling walking through a normally busy section of Harlem.

Of course the covid-19 proof hood elements were still on display .

It was so somber, almost deathly walking by the hospital entrance as well. Even if I shot a video on an LG, you needed to see it to feel it to understand. This be serious. And yet people still don't believe.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

That's why it's called faith. I get what you mean, there's no way I can digest even a tenth of what's in the Bible. It's a good book with a lot of sound advice, but it's still just a book and it was written by men. Men with biases and agendas. My belief in a higher power is unflappable but I don't feel the need to go to church and profess it. Especially to someone who's been "anointed" by some man or group of men. I always loved D.L. Hughley's take on men of the cloth - "a white preacher will **** your kids, a black preacher will **** your wife."

One of my college exes was the product of a God fearing church woman and a married deacon in the church. The deacon's wife sat him down after finding out and said "you can return to my house and my kids as normal but if you ANY contact with that child I will END YOU".

Man...that was intense. Oh wait, guess that story doesn't apply here?

 

[MSFTisMIA]

This time, it's not about me. It's about Sanders dropping out.

Were you ever juggling more than two simultaneously at any point in time to be THAT disappointed!?

(does some Prince Of Persia level moves to slid under the grate of the fast closing iron gate of Laura's doghouse under the WTF glare from 99 in the corner...)

 

[MSFTisMIA]

It was a general statement. Just like saying some people are jerks.

JW...

I sometimes wonder who's worse. JWs or Scientologists...

The best part of the JWs beliefs is the irony.

They believe there's only as certain number who will make it into heaven as the chosen people... They're way past that number. There's others but that's my favourite.

Yeah it's as cult but then in general, that's what religion is. A big cult.

Give me a JW over a Scientologist all day every and twice on Sunday. Cannot say Pittsburgh didn't only produce steel. Some of the medical advances we have now were innovation spurred on to take care of JW patients.

Got an old pt who is a JW and did bloodless heart surgery.

 

[libra89]

Were you ever juggling more than two simultaneously at any point in time to be THAT disappointed!?

(does some Prince Of Persia level moves to slid under the grate of the fast closing iron gate of Laura's doghouse under the WTF glare from 99 in the corner...)

There was Warren at a point.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

There was Warren at a point.

You sidestepped that double entendre with Warren-esque style grace.

 

[libra89]

You sidestepped that double entendre with Warren-esque style grace.

 

[MSFTisMIA]

I'm tired. This line of work is taxing as all hell. I should go drink that Guinness in the fridge but I'm saving it some more.

Besides drinking doesn't undo some of the conversations I have heard today. The vulnerable places people find themselves in at times are pretty stark. Sigh.

 

[Laura Knotek]

I believe we had this discussion back in, pf, 2017 maybe? Nothing bugs me with atheism in general, it's just a belief as any other. But it was my friend, now an ex friend but not because of this of course , that really stretched my nerve.

His family was quite religious, he even has an imam (muslim priest) in his family. So when he went atheist, he remained, well, somewhat extreme. Just a different direction. He'd mock everything religious at any time of day, at any occasion and when you'd try to argue him, he'd get super cynical, arrogant and just outright piece of **** of a human being. No respect at all.

What I'm trying to say, I respected his opinion and his point of view, and it was not reciprocated.

This really seems like a rant towards that one guy, and it basically just that. And everyone else alike.

I'm familiar with that.

Everyone goes through a stage where they 'figured it out' and find everything about religion just weird. I went though it. I'm sure most atheists do. I still find aspects of it both amusing and sad.

You go through different stages and you'll eventually mellow.

As for it being a belief. That's probably the incorrect term.

A person who really identifies as an atheist usually takes time to get there. It's a view based on the evidence. A scientific approach in a way. At least mine is.

It's help me shed a lot of nonsense I had when growing up.

I feel that the problem is related to the fact that some people are simply zealots about either their beliefs or lack thereof, and they become nasty and argumentative in their own needs to "convert" others towards their own agendas. Those who lack tact and civility come in all types, no matter their religion or lack thereof.

 

[Rose640]

I feel that the problem is related to the fact that some people are simply zealots about either their beliefs or lack thereof, and they become nasty and argumentative in their own needs to "convert" others towards their own agendas. Those who lack tact and civility come in all types, no matter their religion or lack thereof.

That's pretty much what happened and because of those individuals, you get a bad image of a larger group.

 

[N_LaRUE]

I never really went that way, so naturally I've never seen such evidence, though I have found some that go the other way. Says alot about human mentality I guess.

A lot of things with religion are cultural, emotional, social and community (family) based.

Moving outside that perspective can be viewed negatively and hurtful by those close to you.

There's a lot of personal attachments to religion which is why it's so prevalent in the world.

I never had a strong attachment to it to begin with so that's why it was easy for me to let it go and view the world differently.

There are many atheist who went from being ultra religious and lost everything. I feel very sorry for them. That takes courage.

For me personally, there's no evidence of a divine being and I live my life based on that assumption. If any real evidence came about to make me think differently I would probably change my mind but that's unlikely to happen.

I think being an atheist is the one thing that has given me perspective about life, humanity and caring about individuals regardless of who they are.

Basing my views on science rather than feelings is why I'm like this.

I'm by no means perfect. I am human like anyone else. I make mistakes. I make false judgements. I fail. But I recognise these as mine.

 

[N_LaRUE]

That's why it's called faith. I get what you mean, there's no way I can digest even a tenth of what's in the Bible. It's a good book with a lot of sound advice, but it's still just a book and it was written by men. Men with biases and agendas.

I can agree with most of that except the 'good book with lot of sound advice'...

Good literature. Sure. Sound advice, um...

You'll find better morals in Harry Potter books... And many others.

 

[N_LaRUE]

Give me a JW over a Scientologist all day every and twice on Sunday. Cannot say Pittsburgh didn't only produce steel. Some of the medical advances we have now were innovation spurred on to take care of JW patients.

Got an old pt who is a JW and did bloodless heart surgery.

I'd prefer neither and the end of silly ideas based on an ancient text written by goat herders and the other written by a bad science fiction writer with an agenda.

But I digress...

 

[Rose640]

A lot of things with religion are cultural, emotional, social and community (family) based.

Moving outside that perspective can be viewed negatively and hurtful by those close to you.

There's a lot of personal attachments to religion which is why it's so prevalent in the world.

I never had a strong attachment to it to begin with so that's why it was easy for me to let it go and view the world differently.

There are many atheist who went from being ultra religious and lost everything. I feel very sorry for them. That takes courage.

For me personally, there's no evidence of a divine being and I live my life based on that assumption. If any real evidence came about to make me think differently I would probably change my mind but that's unlikely to happen.

I think being an atheist is the one thing that has given me perspective about life, humanity and caring about individuals regardless of who they are.

Basing my views on science rather than feelings is why I'm like this.

I'm by no means perfect. I am human like anyone else. I make mistakes. I make false judgements. I fail. But I recognise these as mine.

I respect that, I really do.

Don't know how much free time or interest you have, but there are many things that are and can be considered as a proof in islam. You can check them out. Also, some things are very direct, straight forward, other are not so much and are subject to interpretations, which is somewhat reasonable considering the Book was written as collection of many 'poems'.

Again, same as everything, finding a reliable source and not a fanatic gibberish means everything.

 

[Rose640]

Give me a JW over a Scientologist all day every and twice on Sunday. Cannot say Pittsburgh didn't only produce steel. Some of the medical advances we have now were innovation spurred on to take care of JW patients.

Got an old pt who is a JW and did bloodless heart surgery.

Uhm, what? Where I come from, religion has a very little to none saying in medicine and other specialist fields. Whatever is proven by medicine to be good, healthy or necessary, religion itself or the figures representing it won't oppose.