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05-21-2014 09:43 PM
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  1. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    The multiwindow function is very limiting. It's like working into cages. Do you understand what i mean? .
    Yes, I understand that you cannot comprehend new ideas. I use 4 monitors mixing desktop with windows 8 apps with NO PROBLEMS. In fact, it's super sleek and awesome. There are no limited boxes, that's all in your head. I constantly have about 10-50 windows open. There are no limits. Part of your problem is that you can either see metro style or desktop mode. It's not one or the other, it's BOTH. Maybe someday soon i'll make a video showing how you can mix and match this stuff, it's not hard. I'll bet someone else already made one.
    TLRtheory likes this.
    05-17-2014 09:42 PM
  2. tgp's Avatar
    Yes, I understand that you cannot comprehend new ideas. I use 4 monitors mixing desktop with windows 8 apps with NO PROBLEMS. In fact, it's super sleek and awesome. There are no limited boxes, that's all in your head. I constantly have about 10-50 windows open. There are no limits. Part of your problem is that you can either see metro style or desktop mode. It's not one or the other, it's BOTH. Maybe someday soon i'll make a video showing how you can mix and match this stuff, it's not hard. I'll bet someone else already made one.
    What are the advantages of using Metro apps?
    05-17-2014 10:17 PM
  3. Reflexx's Avatar
    What are the advantages of using Metro apps?
    1. Security
    2. Updated live tiles
    3. Easy app update process
    4. A metro app that crashes won't cause your whole computer to freeze
    5. I can easily download to all my computers that use W8. I can even log in to someone else's computer using my account.
    05-17-2014 10:32 PM
  4. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    What are the advantages of using Metro apps?
    For one, you can download and install all kinds of apps without having to worry about spyware or stupid stuff. Also, I can keep Skype or other programs off to a side of a monitor and it never gets buried under desktop windows. Also what this guy said.. and much more.
    1. Security
    2. Updated live tiles
    3. Easy app update process
    4. A metro app that crashes won't cause your whole computer to freeze
    5. I can easily download to all my computers that use W8. I can even log in to someone else's computer using my account.
    a5cent likes this.
    05-17-2014 11:14 PM
  5. DalekSnare's Avatar
    What are the advantages of using Metro apps?
    Also, window management is better because you can just shove them around where you need them without micromanaging them or relying on Aero snap which only works if you're doing two apps per screen. Assuming you don't want the micromanage window dimensions, metro is better at multiple windows than Aero since Aero only does full or half screen without lot of hassle.
    05-17-2014 11:27 PM
  6. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    1. Security
    2. Updated live tiles
    3. Easy app update process
    4. A metro app that crashes won't cause your whole computer to freeze
    5. I can easily download to all my computers that use W8. I can even log in to someone else's computer using my account.
    A) There is no security in Windows OS, for a variety of reasons. If we mean security from normal threats we may agree. In terms of real security the OS is not safe (it's a long story)
    B) My apps on the Market don't update. I actually have even issues at loading the market. Maybe only me though.
    C) My apps crash sometimes but i rarely have whole PC freezes since Win 8. Technicalities aside, is there any difference between desktop and ModUI?
    D) Remote desktop is not a peculiarity of Modern UI. I don't think that's a plus.
    05-18-2014 12:29 AM
  7. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    For one, you can download and install all kinds of apps without having to worry about spyware or stupid stuff. Also, I can keep Skype or other programs off to a side of a monitor and it never gets buried under desktop windows. Also what this guy said.. and much more.
    You may not be aware that just yesterday a bunch of fake Kaspersky apps ended up in the WP market. So i guess that doesn't apply much. This issue will increase as both OS' take off (because WP will gain traction sooner or later).
    05-18-2014 12:30 AM
  8. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    Yes, I understand that you cannot comprehend new ideas. I use 4 monitors mixing desktop with windows 8 apps with NO PROBLEMS. In fact, it's super sleek and awesome. There are no limited boxes, that's all in your head. I constantly have about 10-50 windows open. There are no limits. Part of your problem is that you can either see metro style or desktop mode. It's not one or the other, it's BOTH. Maybe someday soon i'll make a video showing how you can mix and match this stuff, it's not hard. I'll bet someone else already made one.
    Yes let's see that video where you work in hybrid desktop/modern mode with 50 resizable, overlappable windows open in ONE SINGLE screen (not 4, i don't need that) so that we understand. When you have a minute also enlighten me on the usefulness of the hybrid mode if i can have it all on a desktop. Would you? It's always for the sake of learning. I hope i am not asking too much.
    05-18-2014 12:33 AM
  9. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    I'm quite certain that either you're 70, or just trolling. Some of your comments don't even make sense. You do realize that if you boot strait to the desktop and work in the desktop, there really isn't much that's different from w7 to w8.
    05-18-2014 01:03 AM
  10. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    I'm quite certain that either you're 70, or just trolling. Some of your comments don't even make sense. You do realize that if you boot strait to the desktop and work in the desktop, there really isn't much that's different from w7 to w8.
    I am quite certain you are unable to do what you say and now you're edging in insults due to your own limitations. I am patient but you can't come tell me multiwindow in Modern UI is as functional as it is in the normal Desktop mode. Since i am trolling i am also gonna show you

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    Now, this is a scenario in Hybrid mode. Left side has 2 Modern UI open (1 can't be seen because your beloved interface can't overlap them so you need to act in some way to hide one and show the other in the section of screen i have reserved to Modern UI. the other side is on desktop mode and is showing the other apps i need to work. If you notice in the pic, the Modern UI side non only CANNOT be resized verticall (who tells you i need so much room?) but it also covers the taskbar (or better if moves it to the right covering other apps i need on the taskbar). This is 1 of the limitations that i call "BIRDCAGE".

    So maybe i am 70 or trolling but you either don't seem worried at such limitations and think the rest of the world spins around you and your multimonitors or you are simply trying to diminish people's opinions with subtle insults without bringing facts.
    Now, i ask you again, are you able to demonstrate that modern UI has the same flexibility of a full fledged desktop PC with fully resizable and manageable windows? Just invest some minutes in thinking of what you may say. It may make a difference in how i judge your IQ.
    Also, can you show me how to overcome the issues i am showing you in hybrid mode with facts rather than implying you're the only one smart in here?

    Last but not least, some respect wouldn't hurt. If you have an answer go for it and make it constructive. If you don't have one just go do something else.
    05-18-2014 01:13 AM
  11. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    Why, if you are trying to do real work on your desktop are you trying to view the windows store at the same time? Just close your windows store and BAM, you have a full desktop which is EXACTLY THE SAME AS USINING WINDOWS 7. It's not hard. And my suspicions of you being 70 was because you called the Windows Phone Store 'WP Marketplace'. That sounds like something my grandfather would have said. And for the record, i'm an expert at multitasking. So don't tell me to do something else because i'm already doing many other things right now. If you must know, i'm 3d modeling a human head right now. I'M BUSY!
    05-18-2014 01:19 AM
  12. JamesPTao's Avatar
    I currently use windows 7 because it works well and I am waiting for Microsoft to fine tune things for desktop. I can understand some peoples frustration with it as I have a friend that codes custom dental software, manages websites, and other things and there are many aspects for his use that were frustrating and didn't offer common sense usability things at first. I also have seen the benefits and as he has it on his Fujitsu tablet PC and it runs/ starts up much quicker than 7 and it does have some great features as well. For his desktop ( if you can call the monster that) he uses 7. Microsoft has addressed many of peoples concerns with 8 on desktops per updates but for some it still lacks things that were useful in 7. I'm sure that will change as it matures. For me I would be open to it but don't have the need currently and am happy with 7. I will probably put 8 on my tablet PC after I upgrade it for a newer one and eventually upgrade the PC. I can understand both sides of the argument. But I do also agree that many people are very hesitant to use and resistant to 8 without learning its benefits.
    05-18-2014 01:25 AM
  13. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
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    You see here 4 monitors with the desktop on all of them. On the top left monitor, Netflix is pinned. On the top right monitor, you see xbox music and Skype pinned with wpc open in ie on the desktop. And this is a bit toned down compared to some days.
    05-18-2014 01:42 AM
  14. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    Why, if you are trying to do real work on your desktop are you trying to view the windows store at the same time? Just close your windows store and BAM, you have a full desktop which is EXACTLY THE SAME AS USINING WINDOWS 7. It's not hard. And my suspicions of you being 70 was because you called the Windows Phone Store 'WP Marketplace'. That sounds like something my grandfather would have said. And for the record, i'm an expert at multitasking. So don't tell me to do something else because i'm already doing many other things right now. If you must know, i'm 3d modeling a human head right now. I'M BUSY!
    Wonder why you insist in throwing the potato on me. You claimed you can do incredible things with the modern UI (you haven't shown); you claimed you work with 50 open windows (send us a screenshot); you have claimed a lot of things. I am just asking you how you do and you cover me with insults. It's beyond me. Then you tell me why i don't use the desktop. I told you i use the desktop due to UI limitations. Stop sweating and trying hard if you just realized you can't do what you say. There are no videos simply because that UI is limited. Do you understand it? How old are you? 16?

    Getting back to your uselesness
    A) I was trying to show you why your theory on 50 windows open sounds like an overstated bull****, at best. Opened two random apps and showed your theories and reality clash, IMHO (Unless you have some secret version of the OS that does miracles specific for multitasking 3D modellers, lol).
    B) The rationale applied to define people's age based on a wrong term doesn't deserve a comment, lol. It's self explanatory. If i apply the same rationale how should i define you for using the proper terminology to claim a bunch of lies you can't even show?
    C) You're still not answering the question. Worrying trend for an expert of "multitasking".
    D) Since you're busy modeling heads, avoid making a shame of yourself in blogs, especially when you are unable to do what you say. You give a terrible impression on people. And don't forget that after modeling the head, you have to put something into it. Don't leave it empty. Just a suggestion, i am not an expert of 3D modeling.

    Please, save yourself.

    Have a great day!
    05-18-2014 01:45 AM
  15. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    Please, save yourself.

    Have a great day!
    Written like a true troll
    05-18-2014 01:47 AM
  16. EC Translating Services's Avatar
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    You see here 4 monitors with the desktop on all of them. On the top left monitor, Netflix is pinned. On the top right monitor, you see xbox music and Skype pinned with wpc open in ie on the desktop. And this is a bit toned down compared to some days.
    Oh finally! Now let's make it constructive. How do you do that?
    05-18-2014 01:48 AM
  17. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    Written like a true troll
    Absolutely not. You've been insulting all the time. Don't expect people to stay passive forever.
    05-18-2014 01:49 AM
  18. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    Oh finally! Now let's make it constructive. How do you do that?
    Later when I have time i'll look at youtube and see if someone already has a tutorial.
    Absolutely not. You've been insulting all the time. Don't expect people to stay passive forever.
    Sorry, but I just don't understand people who don't get windows 8. It's so easy.
    05-18-2014 01:53 AM
  19. EC Translating Services's Avatar
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    You see here 4 monitors with the desktop on all of them. On the top left monitor, Netflix is pinned. On the top right monitor, you see xbox music and Skype pinned with wpc open in ie on the desktop. And this is a bit toned down compared to some days.
    Sorry, i missed the 4 monitors thing. I checked the pic and there is no rocket science again. I still wonder if you get my question right.

    The question is "Can you open multiple Modern UI apps (More than 2) and display them on the same screen?". Your scenario is useless to me.
    Last edited by EC Translating Services; 05-18-2014 at 02:14 AM.
    05-18-2014 01:57 AM
  20. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    Later when I have time i'll look at youtube and see if someone already has a tutorial.

    Sorry, but I just don't understand people who don't get windows 8. It's so easy.
    I insist you may be missing the point. You're working on 4 screens and send me a show off of 4 screens with 2 modern UI apps in each of them. I am glad you showed me your hardware and the empty head you're modeling but that's not answering my question.
    05-18-2014 01:59 AM
  21. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    Sorry, i missed the 4 monitors thing. I checked the pic and there is no rocket science again. I still wonder if you get my question right.

    The question is "Can you open multiple Modern UI (More than 2) and display them on the same screen?". Your scenario is useless to me.
    How is that useless exactly? First, you can open 3, only 2 if you count the desktop. In windows 7 you have 0, so it's not even an option. Windows 8 has two to three more options than windows 7. And these apps are not even available in windows 7. So it's not even an issue. This is just an example of you trolling. On windows 8, you do not need windows store apps open all the time. you can just like in 7, have all your windowed apps open across the whole monitor. Your only complaint is that windows 8 can do more. That's what you are saying.
    05-18-2014 02:02 AM
  22. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    I insist you may be missing the point. You're working on 4 screens and send me a show off of 4 screens with 2 modern UI apps in each of them. I am glad you showed me your hardware and the empty head you're modeling but that's not answering my question.
    screenshot-38-.jpg
    How about 3? 3 apps per 4 screens.
    05-18-2014 02:07 AM
  23. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    How is that useless exactly? First, you can open 3, only 2 if you count the desktop. In windows 7 you have 0, so it's not even an option. Windows 8 has two to three more options than windows 7. And these apps are not even available in windows 7. So it's not even an issue. This is just an example of you trolling. On windows 8, you do not need windows store apps open all the time. you can just like in 7, have all your windowed apps open across the whole monitor. Your only complaint is that windows 8 can do more. That's what you are saying.
    Sorry Kev, you work with 4 screens at a time. I work on 3 screens based on need. a 14", an 18" and a 27" when at home. If you check my scenario up there you'll see none of my apps supports modern UI first of all, so even assuming i was using modern UI none of them would work with it. That's for a start. Assuming i had mixed scenario, (the one i simulated for you above in which you insist i am a troll for having the market open lol) i couldn't get more than two modern ui windows open + none of the desktop apps at the same time. Could you please elaborate how can exactly W8 do more in terms of multiwindow in the Modern environment?
    Also, i am not comparing W8 to W7 (you're going there, i don't know why); i am comparing modern UI productivity with the traditional desktop in Win8. I claim the traditional desktop is more productive; you claim the modern UI is better. I ask you to show me how it is better. You keep insulting, send me a screenshot of your 4 screens each of which has 2 modern UI apps on it but you're not showing 1 single display with multiple modern UIs apps open. That was the reason of my original post you replied initiatlly.
    PS is you showing Netflix a sign you're a troll, too? Do you need Netflix to model empty heads?
    05-18-2014 02:09 AM
  24. anon(5445874)'s Avatar
    I wasn't actually watching Netflix. I wasn't reading stock news or checking the weather either. You demanded to see 2 windows 8 style apps running on each monitor, so I opened some things up. Normally I have one windows 8 style app open while working because i'm mostly on the desktop. And once again, you complain that your old apps are not windows 8 style. STOP IT! That's like saying electric cars are no good because you can't put electricity in your gas powered car. seriously?
    Last edited by kevC4D; 05-18-2014 at 02:28 AM.
    05-18-2014 02:16 AM
  25. EC Translating Services's Avatar
    I wasn't actually watching Netflix. I wasn't reading stock news or checking the weather either. You demanded to see 2 windows 8 style apps running on each monitor, so I opened some things up. Normally I have one windows 8 style app open while working because i'm mostly on the desktop. And once again, you complain that your old apps are now windows 8 style. STOP IT! That's like saying electric cars are no good because you can't put electricity in your gas powered car. seriously?
    Let me cut it short. Can you do this on 1 screen only with modern UI, assuming you need to do it?

    2014-05-18-15_21_58-.png

    There are 3 translating software, outlook, skype, MS word, yahoo on background but still clickable, Maxthon browser and 2 dictionaries missing because i thought these are enough to let you understand.
    Now, 2 things
    A) Can you do this on modern UI should you need to?
    B) NETFLIX, then i think you understand judging people by what they open in a desktop to demonstrate things may not be the smartest thing to do.

    PS: i never asked you to see 2 apps per monitor.
    05-18-2014 02:28 AM
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