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  1. anon(9630986)'s Avatar
    Why do people keep thinking MS is going to give up? Its plain that they aren't and that they will always have a phone OS.
    TechAbstract and gcyoung like this.
    01-20-2016 04:16 AM
  2. hwelvaar's Avatar
    People,
    The 'one OS' and universal apps (for PCs, tablets, Xbox and Windows phone) is still in it's in infant stage.
    Yet, I see remarkably more apps being released compatible with Windows 10 Mobile than say a year ago, for WP8.x.
    My bank never released a mobile banking app for WP8.x. Yet it is now available as W10 universal app, and runs on my Lumia 950 XL.

    So it is much too soon to conclude if WP is dead.
    You know, I was running iOS as daily driver phone until just a few weeks ago. I jumped ship, to W10 mobile, because of the universal apps, and because of the integration/synchronization with OneDrive and my home PC.

    Sure, not all great apps are available yet for W10, but I think that only now this market is gaining momentum, and more apps will become available soon. And when there is no 'official' app, there often is a 3rd party app to fill the gap (Youtube / metrotube, Tinder / 6tin, etc...)

    So keep your Lumia's rolling, keep using W10 (mobile). If we keep the platform going, Microsoft will as well.
    01-20-2016 05:09 AM
  3. JasonSCarter's Avatar
    MS may not be giving up, but I am. After 4 lumias, and 2 for my wife, I can't stick with it. Things are not getting better with apps, and Windows 10 mobile has more bugs than Joes Apartment. We need to stop making excuses for this platform. I am tired of waiting.
    01-20-2016 07:01 AM
  4. JimmyShoes's Avatar
    MS may not be giving up, but I am. After 4 lumias, and 2 for my wife, I can't stick with it. Things are not getting better with apps, and Windows 10 mobile has more bugs than Joes Apartment. We need to stop making excuses for this platform. I am tired of waiting.
    The 10 Mobile OS seems to be really not a priority like Nadela said (could first, mobile first).

    Guys, we are heading to February and the battery life is horrendous, they still can't fix screen tearing, there are performance issues to load and to return to apps... and people complained about Astoria? Like it was slowing down the OS? No, that always was W10 Mobile.

    There's a long road ahead them to make it more stable, reliable and fast like WP 8.1.
    Last edited by oGabsPorto; 01-20-2016 at 08:23 AM.
    01-20-2016 07:54 AM
  5. barnyr's Avatar
    The 10 Mobile OS seems to be really not a priority like Nadela said (could first, mobile first).

    Guys, we are heading to February and the battery life is horrendous, they still can't fix screen tearing, there are performance issues to load and to return to apps... and people complained about Astoria? Like it was slowing down the OS? No, that always was W10 Mobile.

    There are a long road ahead them to make it more stable, reliable and fast like WP 8.1.
    Your battery life is bad? My L950 lasts all day and has more than 50% charge after 16 hrs off the charger. My Galaxy S5 on the other hand, after reading and responding to some emails and checking my calendar in the morning, when I get to work at 7am the battery is down to 60%. I have to charge it or swap out the battery to make it to noon. My wife and kids are plugging in their iphones all the time to recharge and constantly running out of storage. I understand some people are missing certain apps, but the windows 10 mobile OS and L950 device are better than the competition.
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    01-20-2016 08:15 AM
  6. JimmyShoes's Avatar
    Yes barnyr, I own a Lumia 830 (which has great battery life with 8.1).

    Last night was the first day I didn't have to recharge and went to bed with 15% but I almost didn't use it all day.
    01-20-2016 08:28 AM
  7. CMUchippewa's Avatar
    I've been using Windows phone since I got my Focus when it first came out. I love the UI and the phones. I have a 950XL now. They keep pushing things to other platforms and seem unconcerned about issues in there own platform. I'm still unable to get the .36 update. Wordflow doesn't work in edge. Continual reboots. Etc.
    Will the frustration ever end?
    I had the Lumia Icon and I loved it. I even made the switch to AT&T just to get the 950. After it started to reset and apps wouldn't launch, I knew the only solution AT&T would offer would be to replace the phone. Phones shouldn't randomly reset. I found W10 mobile OS to be extremely buggy and I couldn't believe MS thought it was a finished product. I ended up just getting an iPhone instead. Even though I would have preferred my 950, I didn't want to wait around for all the bugs to be fixed...in fact, I shouldn't have to. It should have been more stable upon release. At least with the iPhone it is reliable and works as it should. MS will really need to do something amazing before I consider getting another WP.
    01-20-2016 08:29 AM
  8. soil2oil's Avatar
    I had the Lumia Icon and I loved it. I even made the switch to AT&T just to get the 950. After it started to reset and apps wouldn't launch, I knew the only solution AT&T would offer would be to replace the phone. Phones shouldn't randomly reset. I found W10 mobile OS to be extremely buggy and I couldn't believe MS thought it was a finished product. I ended up just getting an iPhone instead. Even though I would have preferred my 950, I didn't want to wait around for all the bugs to be fixed...in fact, I shouldn't have to. It should have been more stable upon release. At least with the iPhone it is reliable and works as it should. MS will really need to do something amazing before I consider getting another WP.

    Bummer for you. I have 2 950's from att and haven't had such dramatic life altering problems with either. Very happy with them over here. Enjoy your iPhone though, glad we live in a world with choices, yup
    Wes Smith likes this.
    01-20-2016 08:37 AM
  9. umovies's Avatar
    They are going the blackberry way and will close down certainly
    no it wont it will eventually get things right and will continually eat away at apples mind share and google will be google they said same things about surface but it beat along and quietly is be coming king, and vender did not abandon windows mobile they just been waiting for ms to get its **** together, islandwood is gonna work as well the android bridge worked to well meaning pirates and its over kill since ios has everything that android has so if it work then whats the point who knows even nokia might get back in the game for windows mobile and continue the lumia line as ms is gonna switch to there own line. Why the 950s as good devices but got hate from lumia fans where as it was no different from googles nexus's as looks go.
    01-20-2016 08:40 AM
  10. Lord Method Man's Avatar
    If you have a Lumia 950/xl, you had no choice. It came with Windows 10 in all its buggie glory.
    Yep. 950XL has Windows 10 Mobile and its sold commercially in stores. The apologists need to drop the "lol its in beta what do you expect" line from their repertoire.
    01-20-2016 09:06 AM
  11. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    Why do people keep thinking MS is going to give up? Its plain that they aren't and that they will always have a phone OS.
    Well, what did you think about Kinect, RT and Zune?
    01-20-2016 10:05 AM
  12. joesigelman's Avatar
    Never consider using it.
    01-20-2016 10:09 AM
  13. Ian_Superfly's Avatar

    ...So it is much too soon to conclude if WP is dead.
    You know, I was running iOS as daily driver phone until just a few weeks ago. I jumped ship, to W10 mobile, because of the universal apps, and because of the integration/synchronization with OneDrive and my home PC.....
    You did what to gain what?
    Exactly, what "Universal apps" are better than what you did get on "your iPhone" and what is better on the OneDrive version found in W10M vs the OneDrive version found in iOS?
    01-20-2016 10:14 AM
  14. theefman's Avatar
    You did what to gain what?
    Exactly, what "Universal apps" are better than what you did get on "your iPhone" and what is better on the OneDrive version found in W10M vs the OneDrive version found in iOS?

    Maybe like the onedrive app getting support for annotations, oh wait, that's ONLY on ios, oops..... /s
    01-20-2016 10:20 AM
  15. leehab's Avatar
    It is sad that MS is spending time and money to offer more and more apps on other platforms than its own platform . Usually if you have some fantastic features or apps you keep them tightly secure so that people are tempted to move to this platform to take advantage of the apps . It is like you give your enemy your best weapon in a war . Right now no one is moving to this platform and worse than that the fans are frustrated and leaving . The new phones are not working right and have got so , so reviews . MS has always gone backward instead of forward
    01-20-2016 10:50 AM
  16. madapo's Avatar
    for MOBILE?
    YES
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    01-20-2016 11:33 AM
  17. Azazel1993's Avatar
    No way!! Microsoft is investing heavily in the oneCore for all platforms making win10 future proof. Am a software engg myself, i realize the frustration end consumer feel when they see no visible change. But believe me they are(in my opinion ) very much investing in it(Universal Apps , ARMx64 and stuff). Once the underlying architecture is up to the mark ,adjusting the UI and stuff is a menial task and that's when we'll start seeing the visible changes. MS have really deep pockets and solid potential first party apps. It's just a matter of time which devs start porting their apps.
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    01-20-2016 12:07 PM
  18. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    No way!! Microsoft is investing heavily in the oneCore for all platforms making win10 future proof. Am a software engg myself, i realize the frustration end consumer feel when they see no visible change. But believe me they are(in my opinion ) very much investing in it(Universal Apps , ARMx64 and stuff). Once the underlying architecture is up to the mark ,adjusting the UI and stuff is a menial task and that's when we'll start seeing the visible changes. MS have really deep pockets and solid potential first party apps. It's just a matter of time which devs start porting their apps.
    And what did you say a year ago? Two years ago? Three...?
    WP is dead and W10M is also as close to dead as possible.
    Even Microsoft is releasing more apps for ios in an average week than they do for WP/W10M in a year.
    Nadela is just full of ns!
    01-20-2016 12:22 PM
  19. rromerof's Avatar
    They can't give up on W10M unless they are planning on giving up on Windows. They cannot go without a mobile OS because that's were most users will be in the following years.

    That would be killing MS as we know it and becoming IBM to let android and ios rule the world.
    IMO, that is not a problem for Microsoft, Why?, because even with an alpha prototype preview called Windows 10 Mobile burying itself, Microsoft rely on their services (OneDrive, Azure, Office, ...), I have my iPhone running some of those services, the so called iPhone Pro as Satya once said. Once I had my device I forgot completely about the Windows Platform. I just keep my Lumia 1020 because nothing can beat that camera (being as slow as it is).
    01-20-2016 12:33 PM
  20. elrodeo's Avatar
    'Is MS giving up?'
    yes, on windows phone they are giving up in favor of Windows 10 in combination with universal apps and continuum...
    01-20-2016 12:33 PM
  21. midnightfrolic's Avatar
    MS is heavily invested in the mobile platform regardless of what anyone thinks or says. Take note of the XBOX history. MS was not a console gaming company. The release of the XBOX was really their first large scale hardware. Sure it was not great at first, but now look at the latest iteration. The "Surface Phone" will most likely be their first in-house phone. Prior to that, MS was just developing software for a variety of manufacturer phones.
    01-20-2016 12:39 PM
  22. rromerof's Avatar
    I'm beginning to find these threads amusing. It's mostly the same group of people complaining about the same things over and over again, and predicting the end of WP (that's been going on for over a year now) and Microsoft's doom. The funny thing is that I've been hearing about the demise of Microsoft for the past twenty years. Mysteriously, Microsoft marches on and are becoming more profitable and have seen a significant increase in stock prices (nearly double what it was when Nadella took the reins). Meanwhile, I'm over here enjoying my phones on W10.
    Lucky you! I've been selling my devices (Lumia 1020,830,640XL & 630) and I desisted to buy a new one (950) with me having the uncertainty if it'd work correctly, so, I bought an iPhone that at least I know how it works. I consider unfair from Microsoft to sell a pre-Beta OS to general people, having a lot of issues. For me that's another nail to W10M's coffin.

    Anyway, I will receive Cortana, Office, Wordflow keyboard, and chances are that some of those apps will work better on my iPhone than the W10M's versions (like Outlook).

    Just my opinion.
    01-20-2016 12:51 PM
  23. Joseph Avena's Avatar
    Sadly I agree, their apps work better and have more features on iOS.
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    01-20-2016 12:55 PM
  24. abulafia53's Avatar
    I too have a Lumia Icon. I had one a year ago, sold it, and bought another one a few months ago. I thought I'd give W10M a chance. It's better, but not much. I suffer from app crashes, random reboots, email not syncing, weak WiFi signals, poor bluetooth connectivity, etc. As of right now, I am reinstalling W10M from a complete wipe. I'm tired of this crap. The mobile OS is garbage. I had these same problems a year ago. MS hasn't fixed the core issues with the OS. All you hear about is the apps. Who cares about the apps if the OS is fubar!!! This is why I bought a Moto X Pure this morning. Android may not be perfect either, but at least it has a huge support base. And to think, I almost bought a 950XL because I thought continuum was going to change everything.
    Which network are you on - AT&T or Verizon? I bought a Lumia Icon 929 (unlocked) last Spring and had it ported to my Verizon account. It was running WP8.1 very well. I waited until I saw that W10M was fairly stable then took the plunge. I chose the slow ring first, so I had to download 10586.29 first - that went flawlessly. So then I jumped on the fast ring and downloaded 10586.63. That is also working quite well. I have some minor issues with the OS along the lines of formatting and text scaling, but have seen none of the dire issues reported by others.

    I have to wonder if those experiencing problems don't have hardware or network issues that are impeding the smooth upgrading of their devices?
    01-20-2016 01:19 PM
  25. rromerof's Avatar
    Your battery life is bad? My L950 lasts all day and has more than 50% charge after 16 hrs off the charger. My Galaxy S5 on the other hand, after reading and responding to some emails and checking my calendar in the morning, when I get to work at 7am the battery is down to 60%. I have to charge it or swap out the battery to make it to noon. My wife and kids are plugging in their iphones all the time to recharge and constantly running out of storage. I understand some people are missing certain apps, but the windows 10 mobile OS and L950 device are better than the competition.
    I don't know what you guys do with your devices. Everybody told me that iPhone 6s battery life was horrible, against all odds, mine lasts 1 day and a half with "normal" usage. Sometimes battery lasts longer as on the image. I think you guys live inside your phone with no social life, to deplete a battery so fast.
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    01-20-2016 01:23 PM
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