Lets get the Snapchat situation trending

[Schnuffi]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

sent my name in

 

[KarmaEcrivain94]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

Okay, a5cent, so what you're saying, is that they may be using it for things like: "OMG! That science teacher is such a **** imbecile!"

While not illegal, such a comment would not be wise to be published in a permanent nature where that teacher may actually find out about it.

Still, it encourages bad behavior. When we know what we say is going on permanent record, we are more likely to be more careful choosing our words.

Thank you for helping me to understand it. I suppose I can see the appeal that teens may have for it in those instances. Though I would discourage such uses with my children.

It's not because you are exchanging (not always) dumb stuff it has to be offensive or something. You don't especially exchange stuff you don't think should stay around. One of the last snaps I received from a friend (before getting banned) was a picture of a Christmas present he'd got for his girlfriend, tagged with "Think she'll like it?"

Plus, you're forgeting about the entire "My story" side. You take a photo of what you're doing, and publish it in your story. It's then visible by all your contacts, for 24 hours. This is a major side of the Platform, and let's you say what you're currently doing (like twitter).

Example: a picture of the airport, tagged with "On my way to the UK ✈"

 

[Luisraul924]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

It's not because you are exchanging (not always) dumb stuff it has to be offensive or something. You don't especially exchange stuff you don't think should stay around. One of the last snaps I received from a friend (before getting banned) was a picture of a Christmas present he'd got for his girlfriend, tagged with "Think she'll like it?"

Plus, you're forgeting about the entire "My story" side. You take a photo of what you're doing, and publish it in your story. It's then visible by all your contacts, for 24 hours. This is a major side of the Platform, and let's you say what you're currently doing (like twitter).

Example: a picture of the airport, tagged with "On my way to the UK ✈"

Thank you. Not everybody sends "dirty" snaps. I've used snapchat for over a year now and I think I've exchanged like two "dirty" snaps with a lady friend. As for the stupid stuff, what's wrong with being silly? The "My Story" is an awesome feature that is effectively micro blogging with the picture telling most of the story.

 

[a5cent]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

^ I personally don't think there is anything wrong with sexting. There is nothing wrong with being silly either. The danger is only in failing to realize that these services are neither private nor secure (you can bet your bottom dollar that we have not seen the last snapchat security breach, or take your own guess how many private messages snapchat staff go through for there own amusement), nor are they necessarily transient (anyone can snap a picture of their display while your picture is shown, but other technical means exist to achieve the same result). Basically, the problem is that snapchat implies to be something it's not. It's the false sense of technical and psychological security (seemingly nothing is permanent so everything is deniable) that is dangerous.

Once you take that into account, snapchat becomes just another messaging service, like a million others... at the end of the day, we must still trust the recipient to treat confidential communications accordingly, and snapchat's technical abilities aren't a substitute for trust.

I wouldn't mind my kids using snapchat (responsibly), so I'm not judging. It's just not for me. If people can't invest enough thought into their communications to be comfortable with their permanency, then I'd prefer not to read/view them at all. To each there own however...

 

[Marquis de Faux]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

Last year Windows Central reported an official Snapchat app was coming in July 2013.
It's almost 2015 and we have this nonsense happening.
Never used Snapchat, but they have pissed a lot of people off and I'm not going to ever use them, even if it does come to WP.
Snapchat, Windows Phone and what you need to know | Windows Central

 

[wpn00b]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

^ I personally don't think there is anything wrong with sexting. There is nothing wrong with being silly either. The danger is only in failing to realize that these services are neither private nor secure (you can bet your bottom dollar that we have not seen the last snapchat security breach, or take your own guess how many private messages snapchat staff go through for there own amusement), nor are they necessarily transient (anyone can snap a picture of their display while your picture is shown, but other technical means exist to achieve the same result). Basically, the problem is that snapchat implies to be something it's not. It's the false sense of technical and psychological security (seemingly nothing is permanent so everything is deniable) that is dangerous.

Once you take that into account, snapchat becomes just another messaging service, like a million others... at the end of the day, we must still trust the recipient to treat confidential communications accordingly, and snapchat's technical abilities aren't a substitute for trust.

I wouldn't mind my kids using snapchat (responsibly), so I'm not judging. It's just not for me. If people can't invest enough thought into their communications to be comfortable with their permanency, then I'd prefer not to read/view them at all. To each there own however...

I really like these forums specifically for conversations such as this. It's a lot of fun to read and participate. As for my opinions on snapchat, I have none since I can't use the application (my fianc?e has long ago usurped/confiscated/commandeered ownership of my iPad).

I do think that it has its place and I like seeing the opinions of those that directly and indirectly use it. It is enlightening.

 

[Jackie Earley]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

I don't even use Snapchat but I signed it because it's bull that they removed Rudy's client when they don't offer one themselves. Last thing we need is another mainstream application being pulled from Windows Phone or flat out not existing.

 

[supersmex]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

Also 97% percent of people are using it for porn? where did that number even come from?

 

[UchilHasmit]

Need 50 more people b4 NYE...
https://www.thunderclap.it/en/projects/20664

 

[rhapdog]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

Also 97% percent of people are using it for porn? where did that number even come from?

It's called sarcasm. I was even stated that the reason for the 97% number was because I was giving WP users the benefit of the doubt that they wouldn't use it that way. In other words, I was saying that it's really everyone that uses snapchat doing it because I could not understand any other reason someone would want to use it. Still don't, because all the reasons people give they could be using the basic built in text messaging. Might as well, because nothing is as disposable as snapchat wants you to believe.

 

[KarmaEcrivain94]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

It's called sarcasm. I was even stated that the reason for the 97% number was because I was giving WP users the benefit of the doubt that they wouldn't use it that way. In other words, I was saying that it's really everyone that uses snapchat doing it because I could not understand any other reason someone would want to use it. Still don't, because all the reasons people give they could be using the basic built in text messaging. Might as well, because nothing is as disposable as snapchat wants you to believe.

What's the point of Facebook? If people have stuff to say to all their friends, they can always use group messages. And what is the point of twitter? If celebrities have stuff to say, they can always send newsletters to their fans... And what is the point of MySpace? If.... Ok bad example,
What is the point of skype ? If people want to talk to their family 3000 km away, they can always phone them and send pictures of stuff they want to show via mms.

Should I continue, or is my point clear enough?

 

[rhapdog]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

Yeah, okay, I don't get the point of Facebook, twitter, skype, etc. either.

Personally, I'd rather visit friends and family in person than do it online like that. My Dad lives 2000 miles away, and we communicate by phone just fine. Pictures sent by email. Pics I want my wife to see right away I send by MMS. So, yeah, I guess in my world, your sarcasm toward me is exactly how I'd like to have it.

I know a lot of people use Twitter. I signed up, and have never tweeted anything. Never visit it. I tried, but just can't get into it whatsoever.

Never even tried Skype, but only got off of dial-up Internet and into the world of broadband 6 months ago when I bought my Windows Phone, and started using it as a WiFi hotspot for my computer. So never tried skype either. My phone doesn't have a front facing camera, so what's the point? I have no one I could call with skype anyway, and I'd rather people not be able to call me on skype right when I'm getting out of the shower, or if I'm in the restroom, or etc.

All these things just get people more and more addicted to their phones to the point they start to sweat and shake when they are forced to put their phones down for any length of time. I know people that have to wake up several times per night to check notifications on their phones. Not for me. I would rather be consumed in my children's lives and in my wife's life than in the life of my phone. Phones are meant to help us stay connected to the real world, but to fully connect, we need to interact with that real world more and our phones less.

 

[wpn00b]

Yeah, okay, I don't get the point of Facebook, twitter, skype, etc. either.

Personally, I'd rather visit friends and family in person than do it online like that. My Dad lives 2000 miles away, and we communicate by phone just fine. Pictures sent by email. Pics I want my wife to see right away I send by MMS. So, yeah, I guess in my world, your sarcasm toward me is exactly how I'd like to have it.

I know a lot of people use Twitter. I signed up, and have never tweeted anything. Never visit it. I tried, but just can't get into it whatsoever.

Never even tried Skype, but only got off of dial-up Internet and into the world of broadband 6 months ago when I bought my Windows Phone, and started using it as a WiFi hotspot for my computer. So never tried skype either. My phone doesn't have a front facing camera, so what's the point? I have no one I could call with skype anyway, and I'd rather people not be able to call me on skype right when I'm getting out of the shower, or if I'm in the restroom, or etc.

All these things just get people more and more addicted to their phones to the point they start to sweat and shake when they are forced to put their phones down for any length of time. I know people that have to wake up several times per night to check notifications on their phones. Not for me. I would rather be consumed in my children's lives and in my wife's life than in the life of my phone. Phones are meant to help us stay connected to the real world, but to fully connect, we need to interact with that real world more and our phones less.

Preach!

 

[wpn00b]

Need 50 more people b4 NYE...
https://www.thunderclap.it/en/projects/20664

I just did that. I didn't add many to its reach but it was 20 potentials at least.

 

[UchilHasmit]

I just did that. I didn't add many to its reach but it was 20 potentials at least.

We reached the target..

 

[Marquis de Faux]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

10,000 signatures!

 

[Luisraul924]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

10,000 signatures!

Awesome. But I read that a previous petition to get snapchat on Windows Phone also reached 10,000 signatures yet here we are... :/

 

[rhapdog]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

100,000 might get their attention... maybe. 250,000 I'm sure would. Less than 50,000 I don't think will make any difference, IMHO. My opinion only, since I'm not snapchat, and probably not worth much. But numbers would have to reach a lot higher to get their attention I am sure.

 

[dnbrealm]

Re: Please go sign the snapchat petition

Done

 

[realwarder]

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Snapchat Has Raised $485 Million More From 23 Investors, At Valuation Of At Least $10B | TechCrunch

$485m and they can't bother to write an app for a platform with 70 million and growing customers...